The list of collateral effects of a potential government shutdown keeps growing and people are none too pleased about it. Here are just a few of the negative impacts that could arise if Congress and the White House fail to reach an agreement on the budget (click here to view in chart form):
- The lawmakers who hold the cards will still get paid. Their staffers might be furloughed, though. That has prompted a few lawmakers to announceÂ they'll refuse shutdown pay,but even that has elicited critiques of political posturing.
- Roughly 800,000 federal workers won't get paid because they're considered nonessential and therefore, the first to be furloughed. That includes people who work in national parks because they'll be closed, ruining countless long family road trips. And it's not just the loss of income that hurts - for many, it's being labeled dispensable when they know their jobs are anything but nonessential.
- As the shutdown looms,Â some political leaders are taking the opportunity to fundraise and rally their supporters. The executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out an appeal asking for a minimum $5 donation saying the organization wants to raise $100,000 in the next 36 hours.
- You'll still get your Social Security checks but don't expect anyone to be around to answer your questions about benefits. The people who take questions on Social Security and Medicare questions will not be at work and most government websites will shut down or have limited functionality.
- Various agencies with the Department of Health and Human Services will operate in a patchwork fashion. The National Institutes of Health will not acceptÂ new patients or start new clinical trials. The Food and Drug AdministrationÂ won't operate at full capacity but will have some inspectors on staff.Â As a result, all FDA inspections of food processing facilities and drug manufacturing plants will be prioritized by risk.
- Word is getting around that a government shutdown doesn't actually save taxpayers money. For one, it will cost the government money to ensure a smooth transition to a shutdown. Then there's the lost revenue from a variety of sources, from government services to gift shops in government-run attractions such as Yosemite National Park and DC's National Gallery of Art.
How would a government shutdown anger you?
I'm worried GE will have to pay taxes if there isn't a shutdown.
@big mowma...how can you sit there and talk about Reagan that way? He did nothing but improve this country to say the least. We never had our noses in anyone else's business. This country was stable economically, we all had jobs and earned decent pay. Was there a "war" under Reagan's time as President? Not that I can recall...Stop and think... As far as the Gov't shutdown for tonight I am not for it. There has been no compromise at all on either side. I cant figure out who is more stubborn at this time..Repubs or Demo...How pathetic can this be. Why was this not resolved last Oct? To the "its time for a change America"...You can keep it. All you have done is make the rich richer and the poor poorer...Canada is really sounding good right now, atleast you can earn a paycheck to match the economic rises and falls. Here? haha not even close....................
I am angry that our troops may not be paid during the shut down. It sucks for everyone else too, but the troops put their lives at risk. I am under the impression that the members of the House and the members of Congress are rather well to do, so stopping their pay wouldn't be much of an incentive to fix this mess. They should have all their assets frozen and receive a prorated salary of $300/month ($20K/year) until the budget crisis is fixed. Or they should have to support the troop's paychecks from their personal funds until the budget crisis is fixed.
The last time the government shut down was in the mid 80s (I believe) and at that time a resolution was passed that military personnel are not to be denied their pay during the shut down. Those folks saying the military members wouldn't be getting paid are being fear-mongers or they're too young to remember and don't know what they're talking about. Military Service personnel will have to get paid by law.
Yep. Also don't forget that military personnel are the only group that are legally prohibited from refusing to work without timely pay (I.e. Quitting). It's pretty much a big F you.
actually the last time the government shut down was during the clinton administration. But i guess fact checking before posting something is not what morons who post comments on cnn.com do.
@Cyndie. The last time the government was shut down wasn't in the 80's it was 96 and the article doesn't say the military won't get paid, they just might get paid late! Anyway, historically every time there has been a shutdown all government employees were paid retroactively. What you fail to realize though is the numerous civilian DOD employees and contractors who won't be on the job during a shutdown. And that could def hurt our troops if it lasted anymore than a few days. As for our "elected" officials, most of them are multi-millionaires so that's why they can play politics with our lives.
You're wong. Military personnel are losing their pay as well for as long as it takes to get a budget signed. They will be back paid however they still have to live on their savings until the budget is signed. Bottom line is they will still protect our country and wait for the pay to catch up after the budget is signed.
If you read the article it doesn't say that military personell WON'T get paid, it says their payments might be delayed. Which is understandable since the people who process the payments won't be working. Its all interconnected like that. Still isn't right.
There are also several people in the federal gov. whose job is considered essential and will be required to work without pay and no back pay (such as certain parts of the FBI, Homeland Security, etc.). These people, and assume miltary as well, agree to this when hired, that their service to the country comes first and they will work no matter what.
@Cyndie.......please keep up. This is not the 80's and not 1995. In this government shutdown the military will NOT get paid until they resume. They will likely get back pay because they will be required to continue working but they will NOT be receiving a paycheck UNTIL the government ends the shutdown.
sure military can receive back pay if there is a shut down. But imagine if your spouse was in Afganistan or Iraq, going on missions, training people who don't appreciate them, and dealing with the everyday goings on of military life. But now they may have to worry about how their families will eat while they wait to receive their back pay. E-1's and E-2's barely make above the poverty line as it is. These kinds of extra worries are what causes accidents and injury. I do feel bad for the "non essential" employees because eventually military will get paid but what are the national park operators and other 800,000 employees supposed to do?
@Snarf - What did they expect? They did not go into indentured servitude, they signed a CONTRACT. A Contract that said they would be paid for the service they performed. So, there are jerks who take advantage - what does that have to do with the ppl putting their lives on the line Right. Now.? And their families, sitting on bases all over the world, who ALREADY live below poverty level so their husband/wife/father can serve so YOU can run your mouth freely - they have no idea how they're going to buy groceries, pay rent, pay for utilities after April 15. Do you have a paycheck coming biweekly? How would you react if your employer suddenly said "I'm cutting your pay in half next week, indefinitely. You chose to work here. Deal with it. Oh, and you can't quit either." I'm sure you wouldn't take it with an "Oh, well, that's what I signed up for." Because that is NOT what they signed up for.
This is political garbage read the article "may not be paid on time" for the military, the military WILL continue to get paid ON TIME no matter where you are stationed. Your direct deposit will NOT stop nor will SS be affected. If you are concerned, please check with your commands disbursing office or Defense Finance and Accounting at 1-888-332-7411
Congressional Leaders, Senators, Ladies and Gentlemen,
Letter of Concern:
My name is Captain Mark D. Natale; I am a Paratrooper and communications officer for a USASOC (US Army Special Operations Command) unit stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I write this letter of concern today, not as an Army officer, but as a concerned citizen. The current Budget crisis that is unfolding in Washington has far reaching and dire implications to our men and women in uniform.
I have had many Soldiers ask me â€śHow will I support my family sir?â€ť, â€śI canâ€™t believe that Iâ€™m being asked to deploy to a combat zone with no guarantee of getting paidâ€ť and in every case, I have no good answer to give them. I write today to ask the members of Congress, the Senate, and the President to pass any measure, bill, or piece of legislation that will ensure that the men and women in uniform will not have a loss or delay in pay. In the military we have something called â€śsecond and third order effectsâ€ť, which means that a loss/delay of pay to the members of the military will result in many people not being able to pay their bills, buy food and fuel, possibly miss mortgage payments, loss of child care and result in poor credit reporting, NSF bank fees and a possible loss of financial security over the long-term.
Funding the military in this case is not about bombs and bullets, rather it is all about the peopleâ€¦the families behind the service members that have been asked to sacrifice so much already. It is irresponsible for us to add this burden and stress to the only segment of Americans that serve their Country in â€śEnemy Territoryâ€ť. I am frankly surprised and disappointed that the 1% of the population that wears the uniform has to fight for financial security in our own nation.
My concern is not about my bank account, it is about the 18yr old Soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan who is ready to go on a deadly mission in the enemyâ€™s home turf and they hear that their wife cannot buy groceries, or that the rent check bounced. When I have Soldiers that qualify for WIC and other government programs it shows me that service members are paid too little to begin with, and taking away their only source of income is inconceivable.
The impending government shutdown will destroy the confidence of our troops in our national leaders and will break many families. I cannot illustrate every possible outcome in this letter, but I can say with certainty that not taking care of our military members will be the biggest, single detriment to our National security and prosperity in recent history. Remember, that this shutdown doesnâ€™t effect a nameless, faceless organizationâ€¦it effects me, my wife, Sonia and my children Sophia and Gabrielâ€¦..and thousands more like us.
CPT Mark D. Natale
The military will receive their full compensation. They'll get their next paycheck (as the government pay period ends today) and any back pay once the rich old, err, congressmen and women stop blaming each other and rabble rousing and realize that the US needs to cut its budget AND provide services for its people.
no reason to worry as long as arabs and muslims are there.... they got enough wealth for your govs and people. dont worry... oh yeah not to mention it will not be grant... it is what your winner's right... lets cheer up...
Our troops should be the highest paid, if they take the risk to die for us they should never have a worry on how there going to live. Ask yourself, what price would it take to put your life on the line, I am sure most of us would have pretty high figure or would you even have the balls to put yourself in that setting. If anything we should demand and take away the top hats salary's of this country, they do not have the right or deserve to be paid with our money, I think there all out of line and selfish, riddled with personal gain and greed.....Your all Fired, bring in the real think tanks to save this country, get rid of the freaking oil $$$$$(Greed)......time to wake up America, Scream for our troops !!!!!!!!!
If the Dems had balanced the budget back when they were supposed to, (by law), then we would not be in this mess now.
AGREED!!! thank you! someone who finally appreciates us and understands us! I have a 7 month old baby, and I will not pay rent if it comes down to his formula/food or that! Me and my brothers/sisters are risking our lives... Now they don't want to pay us?? That's ridiculous! (Some congressmen WANT the shutdown...)
good point, but $300/month = $3,600/year not $20k
You're such a romantic. Vast majority, 99% are fine...anyways they are not idiots or victims – they volunteered to kill kill kill for the name of a false Judeo god.
Let's clear this up. We wont get paid on the 15. Yes we will get back paid when the bill passes. Yes many families will be without. Stop all the BS set aside your opinions and let's fix our country.
Do the talking to them at the voting polls; VOTE them out if you don't like how they are serving right now. That is a language that these legislators understand votes do matter. Anything that the common everyday man/woman says to them goes over their heads but they do respond to lack of votes and they do love to please voters when they are running for office, speak back by voting them out.
@Cyndie – The last big government shut-down was in 1996. It lasted for 3 weeks and the troops were only paid because a measure was passed to specifically pay the troops. No such item has been passed this time so our military would NOT be paid. And it is true that they would be required to work. Might want to check your facts before randomly posting.
Sorry, I can't feel too bad for the military when their budget-busting cost is the only government service NOT on the chopping block. Troops putting their life on the line overseas will have food and housing even as disabled veterans programs back home are cut off completely.
@ryan k. While true the last time we had a government shut down was under Clinton, don't forget that the last time we had a balanced budget (actually a budget SURPLUS) was under Clinton too. Sometimes you just need to get tough.
Maybe members of congress can apply to Fed-Ex since many of them will be Ex Fed after elections.
They aren't feds, their in the legislative branch : S
Actually, Congress is part of the federal government. The President is the Executive branch and Congress is the legislative branch.
And Congressional pay will continue thru the shut down, as will their government leased Mercedes, Lexus's, and Cadillacs continue to get paid thru the shut down.
No need to worry about the repro man showing up at the Congressional parking garage.
I say let it shutdown. No one's freedom and liberty is safe while the government is in session.
Think we are better off without all the government services.
That is ridiculous though that military members won't get paid (I could care less about the other 800,000 government workers though, their job depends on the government stealing money from its citizens to give it to them). National security is without a doubt a function of government and military members should get paid even during a shutdown.
Maybe you can go off and live in the woods in splendid isolation, but I happen to live in a real country, you know the kind where we agree we do need certain core services. Come to think of it, sending troops halfway around the world to prop up corrupt dictators does me a lot less good than say inspecting food, staffing air traffic control towers, or guarding prisons. How did that removal of onerous government interference on Wall Street work out for you, or the rest of us for that matter?
That's just ignorant. My wife is one of those 'non-essential' people whose job it is to make sure there's no low-lives who are taking advantage of Social Security... such as people who fake disabilities, fake paperwork, and other means of getting a bigger return from Social Security or Disability Pay. She probably SAVES taxpayers millions of dollars each year by herself, let alone the others who do the same job in different regions of the country.
Hey dude, I seriously hope you lose your job, get a very painful disease and die soon, because you are not worthy of the air you breath! You have no idea what you are talking about. Let me give you just one tiny example. The police at the front gates of military bases and 1,000's of civilian employees on the bases won't be there. Now, obviously they will stick soldiers at the gates, so no problem there, but all the other jobs that are done on every base everywhere around the world by civilians or contractors of the DOD won't be there. There are tons of more examples. I find it amusing when people like you comment about things they have no idea about.
You have got to be kidding. My husband works for the federal government. He is trying to preserve our woodlands, not steal money from taxpayers. His chosen profesion happens to be for a federal wildlife agency. We will go through our savings in no time and then our family will have to make some very difficult decisions. We should be concerned about all of the federal employees and families that will be affected by this, not saying that we could care less about anybody but ourselves!!
I'm with you Michael. Pay our troops, but shut the rest of it down. They keep saying that nonessential personnel will be furloughed but all essential personnel will be at work. Why in the world do we have any nonessential government personnel? That tells you that things are upside down. The government shouldn't be the largest employer in the country. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be talking about this except for the issue of paying our troops.
There is one other thing people forget. It won't just be Govt. workers who get hurt. I know about a restaurant by a military base that will close if there's a shut down. Their customers come from the base, & it isn't worth staying open. When you have no paycheck, you cut back on lots of things. So small business (restaurants, dry cleaners, stores) in the community will loose money. EVERYONE has the potential to be hurt when hundreds of thousands of people suddenly have no paychecks.
Those of you that believe that "non essential" personal are not essential should do your homework and not speak about things that you clearly donâ€™t understand. Having said that, it is my humble opinion that at this point based on production, the only real non essential personnel in the US government is congress!
No, our country isn't better without the government. We are where we are today because we have had a good government. All of those inspections to ensure we are drinking clean water and eating food that hasn't been contaminated, you can thank the government. All those Fed jobs, military jobs, and those MANY subcontractors working for the govt, you can thank the government. But no, you aren't thinking about that. Didn't you read the article? Shutting down government costs the US money. Without government, there is chaos, but you wouldn't understand that. People don't look at the big picture until their lives are at stake. Right now the only thing the people who want the govt shutdown care about is their measly bank account and political party.
Horrible! I can only hope they bring this to resolution promptly. How did it get to this point? What were lawmakers doing this whole time and why wasn't this resolved weeks ago? Let's make a note of the elected officials who should not get another term!!
it's not a matter of "why wasn't this done weeks ago". It's something that should have been done MONTHS ago. Like, LAST YEAR! But the Dems, despite having both the House and Senate, AND having the White House, refused to take a stand on anything before elections and didn't pass a budget when they normally do. And now, MONTHS AND MONTHS after this budget should already have been passed, they're complaining about Republicans holding things up? I'm sick of both parties.
Incidentally, how in the world is it considered so outrageous that someone is trying to cut $60 billion from the budget, but not so outrageous to have a budget in the first place that would spend MORE THAN A TRILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN WE WILL BRING IN. That's almost TWENTY TIMES MORE than the pittance Reps are trying to cut.
If we don't start cutting now, then WHEN???????????? If your boat is sinking, do you start bailing out water after it hits the bottom of the ocean? It's a little late then, folks.
Wake up America. The law makers don't care about us, until it is time to vote or raise money, then they show up. Once in office or back in office we never hear from them. They are a political elite with large pay, large retirements, free medical benefits, all paid by the U.S. tax payer. It is all about money, power, greed, the whole system is corrupt. It is both the democrats and the republicans fault. Both parties never have the interest of the citizens at heart.
@DAN...get off watching NASCAR and watch an acutal govt meeting. The Dems couldn't pass the bill because of the Rep filibuster. Or did you forget the whole Party of No thing?
My husband is in the Navy. If the government shutdown happens, he not only won't get paid, but we won't get his housing allowance either. We don't live in Housing, we have a mortgage. He'll still have to go to work, but without a paycheck. I think in the event of a government shutdown, Congress shouldn't get paid. After all, THEY are the reason for this.
1. Stop working for the federal government. Soldiers, come on home.
2. Stop paying more tax than you owe and waiting for a refund.
3. Vacation in the Caribbean.
I would gladly vacation in the Caribbean, if I could get a passport.
emily, ..you should already have a passport.
IIm sorry, apparently you dont know, that SKIN color does not have any affect on how someone runs this country. Thank You.
YES GLEW, the color of a persons skin does have something to do with the way they run this country. Everyone would do it a little different. You really are IGNORANT if you think i doenst matter. Im not being a racist here, but different races think and act different in every situation.
Glew you are a MORON too...the color of a person means nothing..the culture does...educate yourself and pls pls get out of your sisters bed
You're not trying to be racist? That statement, in itself, is a racist statement. Look up the definition of racisim. Wow.
There is but ONE race, it's called HUMAN.
We have ONE planet, it's called EARTH
We have ONE shot... to live almost 100 years in this lifetime.
The negative skin color posts are an easy litmus test for the rest of us to know who the ignorant, uneducated people are. Step outside and open your mind a bit. America is no longer a 'Melting Pot". I call it "The Salad Bowl" where everyone gets to keep their culture, personal religious beliefs, traditions and flavor. If we were all the same, I'd be bored as hell!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program... our elected officials cannot balance a budget or cut the fat without screwing us!
Thank you for being you đź™‚ 100% agree.
GLue, Roosevelt was of what colour? Roosevelt had a hand in the major socialist programs that exist to date (Mediscare, Swelfare, et cetera). With that being said does hue really make a difference?
Riiiiggghhht. Sniff some more on your namesake and do tell what you think about other minorities in general. Don't hide your inner racist.
Your a very ignorant person to even think bout posting this one here
People think and react to different things differently.
Since they are fighting about money, easy solution would be to just print more money...
It doe's when Your dealing with the Right Wing Southern Trash We are dealing with!!!
Army my ass, you are white trash
Yes, it does, according to the white Tea Party members I have the misfortune to know. They equate darker skin color with all sorts of negative things, no matter what. Add to that a name that isn't "amurikan" and you get a lot of ignorant comments.
My last name is German. Does that make me "un-American" although I was born in the heartlands of this country?
The only way to really motivate politicians is for the people to do it, It's a shame the TSA and air traffic controllers get paid and not our troops. You can bet your last dollar , If you still have one that millions of stranded fliers world wide would do more to motivate these sorry excuses for public servants to get to work and solve this problem
TSA and Air Traffic Controlers will get paid the exact same time the troops do, not before.
The only people who will get paid are congress and their essential staffers, all other federal finance center employees will be furloughed so there will be no one there to sent out pay to them either. This is also the reason the military will not get paid.
Does anyone else find it laughable that Obama said a shutdown [and not his policies] could cause us to slip back into recession? I think he knows that his policies aren't working and he's looking for a scapegoat. With this guy it's always someone else's fault.
The president pulled us out of a recession. The republicans won back some seats in the election, not we are back on the downward spiral we were on during the Bush years. Thank you registered voters for buying into the "anger" and "hatred" the Republicans were feeding into during their campains......
So (John) the recession (that we will fall back into) in not the fault of the Republicans ?
Is that what you're saying?
It appears that our path to a recession began with the policies of another president and continued after fighting a war on 2 different fronts causing taxpayers in the trillions of dollars. You may not agree with all of our current presidents policies as do congress, however all of our presidents, whether dem or rep make decisions that we don't always agree with. I feel that the threat of a shutdown is a way for congress to force the president to change some of his policies. And it is coming at a price. NO AMERICAN should ever have to worry about not getting paid because congress cannot "play nice" together.
I agree with John. It's not the republicans fault by the way. They made a plan for an extension that would include an extra week of negotiations that would also include pay for all military personel for the rest of 2011 so they would be protected. Your an idiot if you think it's the GOPs fault. The democrats are the ones who rejected that extension just because of planne parenthood... A corrupt company who they still want to fund. Democrats on this liberal news station need to rethink there stuff. Reevaluate yourself, nubs.
Eh... John... have you been paying attention to job numbers lately? or the fact that some may companies posted large profits at the end of Q4? Yep. Ignore all of that and bash the president who pulled us out of a recession. Let's not look into anything ourselves, just quote a party line. Pathetic.
Yes, it's like that with "this guy." Opposed to all of the other guys who take responsibility in Washington.
Remind me and name a few if you wouldn't mind. Let's start with the mess that Bush caused. Who stood up and took the blame for that?
@Ashton–you think Planned Parenthood is a corrupt company? You obviously have never been in need of women's health services, like pap smears and annual gynecological visits, when you were uninsured and could use their sliding scale fees. I've never seen any corruption, just a kind staff who are efficient and answer all questions clearly.
We need , as a people, to come together and stop criticizing each other. We all want the same" liberties " that the government is supposed to provide. We are one nation, under "God" , with liberty and justice for for ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gov't does not PROVIDE liberties. Gov't is supposed to protect the liberties that you have because you're a human being. It is not gov't's job to ensure ppl have jobs, nor is it gov't's job to ensure ppl have access to healthcare, or public television.
You know what , you can say that again.
@loudtype ... thank you, you seem to be in a small minority of people who understand that the only legitimate function of ANY government is to PROTECT the rights of the governed. Our government falls far short, as does any other government I know anything about.
Hmmm, apparently I won't be affected at all by a shutdown. Yay for me.
At this point I think the thing that would anger me the most is another stopgap. Our elected officials need to do what they were elected to do, that which is in the best interest of those they represent! Yes a compromise is necessary on both sixes of the asile
BUDGET FIGHT JUST GETS DUMBER
A car wreak burning at the bottom of a cliff with the US citizens trapped in the back seat and their still arguing over who should drive.
They all promised they would fix a political system that does not work â€“ So they push it to Financial ruin and set fire to it as well – Thanks Guys.
Ever thought of becoming migrants instead of politicians?