The list of collateral effects of a potential government shutdown keeps growing and people are none too pleased about it. Here are just a few of the negative impacts that could arise if Congress and the White House fail to reach an agreement on the budget (click here to view in chart form):
- The lawmakers who hold the cards will still get paid. Their staffers might be furloughed, though. That has prompted a few lawmakers to announce they'll refuse shutdown pay,but even that has elicited critiques of political posturing.
- Roughly 800,000 federal workers won't get paid because they're considered nonessential and therefore, the first to be furloughed. That includes people who work in national parks because they'll be closed, ruining countless long family road trips. And it's not just the loss of income that hurts - for many, it's being labeled dispensable when they know their jobs are anything but nonessential.
- As the shutdown looms, some political leaders are taking the opportunity to fundraise and rally their supporters. The executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out an appeal asking for a minimum $5 donation saying the organization wants to raise $100,000 in the next 36 hours.
- You'll still get your Social Security checks but don't expect anyone to be around to answer your questions about benefits. The people who take questions on Social Security and Medicare questions will not be at work and most government websites will shut down or have limited functionality.
- Various agencies with the Department of Health and Human Services will operate in a patchwork fashion. The National Institutes of Health will not accept new patients or start new clinical trials. The Food and Drug Administration won't operate at full capacity but will have some inspectors on staff. As a result, all FDA inspections of food processing facilities and drug manufacturing plants will be prioritized by risk.
- Word is getting around that a government shutdown doesn't actually save taxpayers money. For one, it will cost the government money to ensure a smooth transition to a shutdown. Then there's the lost revenue from a variety of sources, from government services to gift shops in government-run attractions such as Yosemite National Park and DC's National Gallery of Art.
How would a government shutdown anger you?
Really people, your fighting about being from the south or not spelling a word right...you all sounds like a bunch of republicans..Typos happen, we all have to be born somewhere its nothing we can control so get over it
WOW! Grow up. No wonder our Government is so screwed up! The military HAS cut our pay in half already. (if your military check your LES)
That is in CASE of the furlough. It will be changed if there is an agreement. People need to learn to save money for things like this.
Actually Lara, it's already processed through DFAS. The deposits will change if a resolution is reached but as it sits the military is only getting paid for 1-8 April on the 15th. It's not an issue of it'll only happen if...it's already happened. People need to learn to save money for things like this? Tell that to a PFC with a wife and child who barely makes enough to support his family. I don't how much you think we make in the military but it isn't all that much...especially when you look at the actual hours we work.
My husband is an E-3. We have two kids and I don't work. We seem to be doing just fine. It's important to learn how to save money. They tell you to have 3 months of pay in savings. We do that just fine. And I said it wasn't set in stone. We may NOT get only that first week of pay if it gets passed by the 12th.
I mean to say that the LES can and will be changed to reflect the entire paycheck if things get fixed. And don't come back on me saying how hard military life is. I KNOW. My dad was career enlisted and so is my husband. We are just smart enough to budget wisely and we don't have to live payday to payday. Everyone can do it too, regardless of how little one makes. America Cheapest Family has some great ideas on that as well. People should be prepared for ANY kind of disruption to a paycheck. One never knows what will happen.
Get of your high horse Lara.
Married, 1 paycheck, 3 kids and new to this mayhem. Just getting into the military has depleted most of my savings. Then theres the whole, buy a bunch of stuff just to get going. But your right, just because your situation has allowed you to be ok and make retarded comments like that, we all should be ok.
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so, keep talking you guys
Wow that is great that you can do that, but please everyone is not the same. Me and My husband both work, but due to my health and a lot of medical bills we are barely getting by. You need to be thankful that you Are able to do that and not criticize others when you have no idea what their situation is.
10 things that could ruin my day? Really? One of them is the Democrats fundraising? Uhhhh....
Other than the military not being paid, how is this a bad thing? I mean, to run down the list:
1)Lawmakers get paid. Essential Personnel. Period. Moot point because many are claiming they are giving their salaries back.
2)800,000 workers get furloughed. The claim that it is not just the loss of income that hurts, it is that it hurts someone's feelings is equally as bad? Please....
3)Small Business gets hurt. If you are a contractor and you thought you were essential...nuf said.
4)MIlitary should be paid. Number One job of a federal government? Protect the Homeland. It is specifically cited to protect us against invasion. Illegal immigration, anyone? We will leave that arguement for another day.
5)Trash pick-up. I will actually give on this because DC is federal and not state...keep it clean. But as for the "cherished tradition" of Cherry Blossom Festival...whatever.
6)Democrats fundraising. Should not even be on this list.
7)Federal government loaning money stops. You are supposed to have money to loan money. We are broke.
8)You get paid but can't call anyone? Numerous resources available elsewhere.
9)We are not starting new clinical trials? I assure you pharmacueticals will. FDA, needed.
10)Do they really think that the cost shutting down and ramping up is going to be morethan the cost of paying 800,000 workers who are furloughed? Oh yeah, I forgot, we will probably pay them retroactively for work they didn't do.
I hope it stays "shutdown"!
If I was still in the military I would just go home. Call me when you guys work this out. I am not dependent on the government so my life will continue as normal. I would be more worried if the state government was going to shutdown. It is sad that so many depend on the government, I am afraid you are going to be let down. Good Luck, my community and my church will help you if we can. Take Care
This is just speculation, but I think you Kevin are more likely to be let in through the pearly gates than Lara is. That was a nice, thoughtful post. Who's to say how much money another family needs to live on? Ideally, yes, everyone should try and have an emergency fund set aside but for some people that's just not feasible.
That would be considered AWOL, and is punishable by being sent to prison. And the ones stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan can't travel back. The military has to carry out their assigned duties. Just hoping this will be over in a short time.
My husband works for the DoD, and it is currently our only source of income, if the shutdown lasts a week or more we'll have to reconsider what bills to pay. It is sad that our government cares so little for its people. đź™ None of the congressmen/women understand what its like to live paycheck to paycheck, without an emergancy savings account because we're too busy in paying off school loans that our education produced. đź™
As usual, the GOP is using the military as a pawn to gain power.
None of these ten things sounds so bad. Keep shutting down I say.
So, i guess you are good with losing your paycheck and going to Afganistan to stand in front of the bullets that are being shot at my husband? Im totaly ok with that! when can you leave???
You're an idiot
Tssk, we don't need ANYONE, including your poor husband in Afghanistan. He is there because of lies and unfortunately serving no purpose for the American people. If your husband isn't being paid he should be doing what all of our soldiers should be doing. Coming home.
The CNN poll on the front page of this website is showing that 51% of the country could care less whether or not the government is shut down. Finally, we are seeing a majority of the country express that maybe we are all better off without millions of pencil pushers sitting behind their fancy taxpayer given desks in Washington. Only 25% of the respondents say they are concerned about a shutdown! I hope they shut down the IRS first, and leave it closed permanently. We don't need to spend tens of billions of dollars a year for a bunch of people who run around and take the homes from elderly. Flat tax it and get rid of them all!
I agree with the flat taxes, however will you be willing to pay my bills while I finish school and my husband looks for a new job? 🙂
The statistics you mention and your belief that we should just let the government fail are a new way of looking at solving the problems we are experiencing. Just stand back and let everything fall apart. Stop employing people, stop paying people, stop having a military, stop paving roads, stop making sure food is safe, stop making sure medicine doesn't kill people, let the people on social security go without. Stop underwriting mortgages. Let the ripple effect of a complete economic standstill of the nations biggest employer and job creator by the by have its way with whats left of our feeble economy. Of course the rich won't have to worry if taxes are eliminated, but as wave of businesses collapsing forces millions into unemployment without any help from the now nonexistent food stamp or unemployment program, it won't matter. We'll probably be bartering or killing each other to survive by then. Great idea!
Fortunately the Republican gave the wealthiest 2% most of the government's revenue for the year so they can give it back to me. I'm sure the furlough won't hurt me too bad because rich people should give me a job right away with their tax cuts. I'm eagerly waiting by the phone to hear from them.
The IRS? I assume you have already gotten your refund.
News polls are very inaccurate...sorry to tell you.
In other news, 51% of Americans are idiots who don't realize how much they depend on the government.
Really, Jay? All government workers are in Washington and have fancy taxpayer given desks? Shoot, I've been reporting to the wrong office in the wrong city all these years just to sit at my cruddy cube. All these years I've been fighting for the most basic office supplies, like ink cartridges for the printer and pens, when I could have been living high off hog in some fancy Washington office? I simply never knew.
Here I am, reporting to work every day, auditing folks tax returns and bringing in revenues for the country from tax cheaters and uneducated taxpayers alike, yet all I get is hate. I am a federal employee. I have brought in sufficient revenues to cover not only my salary and benefits but also the salary and benefits of several others...for the rest of our careers. So how is it that I've someone become the enemy?
So let the processes of 2012 begin.
Who is going to protect our borders if the goverment shuts down?????TSA won't get paid so do you think they will care? Border patrol won't get paid on time so they won't care as well.....this shutdown could damage the US in more ways than a finicial crisis
Border patrol and FAA are two federal agencies that will not be shut down.
TSA only terrorizes us, they don't do border control.
im a 17 year old teen. and truthfully no matter what anyone one says or thinks we all have our own beliefs. I believe this is just another levelof gateway towards this so called END OF THE WORLD i'd like to call the "New World Order"
Beliefs are ideas you believe are true without evidence.
Opinions are feelings you have about something regardless of whether existing evidence supports your claims or not.
TRUTH is neither a belief or an opinion, and it is defined by EVIDENCE. Truth also considers likelihood and probability, and is never without exception. However, this does not mean that it is subjective or even personal in the least bit.
The reason I bring this up is because your post makes absolutely no sense.
How would you explain what to consider in making a decision? It would always be much easier to just opt out and absolve yourself of responsibility by saying "Its up to you," or "Its up to me... and you have to respect it just 'cuz". Your unfounded fears about a "New World Order" might be more legitimate if you spoke about evidence and cause-and-effect instead of just throwing prophetical fortune teller nonsense out there expecting us all to swallow it under your assumption that there is no such thing as a correct answer. Sorry pal.
Agreed agreed. Completely and totally. For the record, I'm 40. This has been gearing up for a while and its only going to get worse.
Anyone that says the military isn't needed or is fighting a war that serves no purpose can come over here and do my job... I see the change and the impact that the news won't report. This is my second tour to AFG in the same year, and I happen to care about my job, even if it wouldn't pay me. I would continue to serve my country regardless, a sacrifice that if most Americans made, would feel like this country is worth fighting for and protecting from a shutdown.
This article outright lies. If the gov shuts down, sure it will cost millions to make the transition – but it keeps the gov from wasting billions. It's not the best solution, but anything that keeps the gov from wasting my taxes is all good.
Actually, I disagree. That money will be spent again (and then many times over) to restart the government. The government isn't like turning off your heat for a few days to save money. Its more like deferred dental care. You might save a bit now...but you'll end up being caught in the end...and the damage is likely cost you more and there will be even greater pain.
The half pays are being shown on our LES's right now IN CASE of furlough. However, if you bank with USAA or Navy Federal, they will deposit your usual pay ANYWAY on the 15th, at no cost to you.
Another reason to love USAA!
I just got off the phone w/ USAA and they have not made a decision on ensuring we do get paid what we are supposed to, Corporate for USAA will not make a decision until after midnite.
'If Boehner shuts down the government I am taking my trash to his house."
Really? Why not dump the trash on Harry Reid's lawn?
(1) It takes two to tango just as much as it takes two to fight.
(2) This budget was supposed to have been passed LAST YEAR – when the democrats held both houses of Congress. If they has done their job THEN we wouldn't be in this mess NOW.
Um... you act like there was no precedent for postponing the budget bill (Republicans have done this many times mind you)... and you also act like the White House and Senate were just sitting around doing nothing through 2010 and didn't have any republican members... it also sounds like you might think there was no such thing as republican obstruction in Congress prior to January 2011, and that they may have ACTUALLY allowed Congress to pass the budge bill without a fillabuster or a long protracted argument.
And lastly, it might take 2 to fight, but it has to be started by someone. One thing you're right about is that its a fight and not a dignified debate.
And lastly, the trash will be on Boehner's lawn because he can't seem to lead his party to a consensus– the Reps made demands, the Dems met them, and then there was another list of demands that attempts make this budget a referendum on abortion rights and the role of the EPA. Without even having time to debate it!!!!!! Talk about back room policy making....
I am enraged at the idea that anyone who has the intelligence to use a computer and compose a sentence would take this punditry as fact. The truth is, you are on the WRONG side of this one. I hope the Dems make the Republicans pay DEARLY for all the misinformation, public manipulation, whining, bellyaching, underhandedness and un-professionalism.
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The way I look at it is we have had numerous shut-downs before and survived. My only concern is why should the men and women that protect this country do without no matter if they volunteered they are protecting us.....why should them people that work hard to put a roof over their heads, food on the table and still can barely make it have to wait for their IRS returns they earned them? In my opinion the ones who should do without are the politcians that have their heads somewhere other than on their shoulders. If they were concern for their country so much then let them go without pay instead of people who actually dont make nearly as much as them. Everyone is blaming democrats or republicans how about its the whole system. Instead of trying to out do each other think what is best for the people of this country. Our children could do better probably without all the argueing.
The people who are truly "protecting" us, if you can say that, are the border patrol people, who will continue to work. ALL military that we have stationed elsewhere do NOTHING to "protect" us.
@ chris
I understand how u feel but the people coming over the boarder aren't packing bombs! They didn't take down our trade centers and kill thousands. We have been in this war for almost 10 years now. I think the government fears leaving that country because of the mind set of those people. Think about it. They think they will go to heaven for killing us.
@Amanda
The war is not being fought because of Terrorists. NEVER HAS BEEN. It's being "fought" to secure the land for oil and mineral resource. Oh, yeah, and for all of those contractors making billions in the supply of weaponry, ammunition, and "rebuilding." Our poor troops aren't protecting us from anything, and if somebody wants to kill us, attacking their country is not the way to make them less likely to do so. WAKE UP.
@Sara
Oil? Really? Where is that? I mean, if you hadn't noticed, due to the whole Libya/Egypt thing, we seem to be short again. Getting flashbacks to a few years back where fuel was $5 a gallon in some places. Yeah, tell the soldiers in Afghanistan that they die so your ass can fill up your SUV, and they'll show you a taliban flag they just tore off a cave entrance.
Government shut down- drunk with power. Sober up.