Government shutdown: The upside
Protesters call for cuts in federal spending Wednesday on the steps of Capitol Hill.
April 8th, 2011
12:50 PM ET

Government shutdown: The upside

We posted an item here on Thursday on 10 things that could ruin your day if the government shuts down.

Which got us wondering: Is there a silver lining to a shutdown?


– Less traffic. Roads around federal office epicenters in every city would see a noticeable drop in motorists. That’s a good thing. A new study by the Environmental Health Perspectives highlights the link between traffic pollution and brain damage.

– You won’t get audited. While the tax filing deadline is still April 18, a federal shutdown means you can stave off the bean counters – people whose sole purpose is to get you to explain how that monthly Netflix subscription helps your home-based business - at least for a while.

– The White House gift shop will be closed. YIPPEE. You know that miniature flag-striped lapel that can pierce a small organ? We won't be seeing those or that commemorative snow globe your weekend-getaway co-worker erects at their cubicle. Freedom!

– More fish to catch. In Arkansas, anglers will be able to go all out. The Norfolk National Fish Hatchery will release two weeks worth of rainbow and brown trout.

“This would be the week to fish,” Craig Eaton, project leader at the hatchery, told CNN Friday. “We normally release 10 to 14 deliveries a week,” Eaton said. Each delivery contains about 29,000 fish, he said. Do the math. That's a boatload of fish. Can you say reel deal?

– Bankruptcy deferred. About to go bankrupt? Not after Friday. Federal bankruptcy court will be running largely in name only. The online filing system will be up and running but federal buildings will likely be closed.

– More electricity to go around. With average consumption larger than some states, Washington bureaucrats obviously don't know how to cut off the lights when they leave the office. A shutdown means less strain on the power grid.

Anything we forgot? What else can be considered an upside to the federal shutdown?

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  1. Stephanie

    I just want to say THANK YOU for this article. It's hard to see the good in this, but every event has a silver lining, and even for someone as optimistic as me, it's hard to see right now. So thank you for putting a positive spin on this mess.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  2. GeorgiGirl

    My husband and I are sick to death of our elected "public servants" on both sides of the aisle! We have a country in crisis and it appears that all they care about is THEIR poilitical agendas. What about the people who elected them? What about the military that defends our country which allows them to sit in Washingtoin enjoying the fruits of their elections? What about all of them doing their jobs and getting the work of the U.S. Government done? Corporations, big and small, have to set us a fiscal budget for the year ahead, families have to budget their income every month so that they don't end up with more month than money, but our government can't! This is insane! From the President on down, all of these politicos aught to be ashamed that they can't do what a basic company or family MUST do. They've lost sight of the real world living in their secure bubbles. I say they shouldn't be paid either, let them work from home and pay their own bills and see how they get by. ENOUGH POLITICIANS – GET OUT OF TOWN AND WORK FOR A LIVING.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Failsystem2011

      did you ever think that probably democracy is failing here and we need to get together like they did in Egipt and fight for freedom! freedom from this congress that dont care about people, only about the rich!.
      i think this model of goverment if failing.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • S1N

      @Failsystem2011 – Good luck getting enough people together to do anything about it. Pure peaceful protest (the favorite of people these days) accomplishes little to nothing in the short term. Violence is a much faster, more efficient means to accomplish a goal, but people are too scared of the consequences to use it.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      @Fail, Yeah, we need something like a Monarchy or Totalitarianism! Because those work SO much better than the failure that is democracy!

      (BTW, We are not a pure democracy, but a democratic republic.)

      April 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Billy

      If we protested would we be considered "Protesters" like in Egypt or would we be "rebels" like in Libya? They both have issues with their respective gov't however, since Libya has oil we decided that we needed to go to war. Egypt just has some old pyramids.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vicky

      Honestly, any type of government would be better than what we have now as long as the leader(s) actually cared about the common people. But good luck about that, right?

      April 8, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • JG in TN

      Makes you wonder if some other brave country would impose a no-fly zone over us to protect our protestors when it turned nasty. HAHA fat chance!

      April 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • kim

      Remember this is 2010-2011's budget that the Democrats who controlled both houses failed to pass in August, September, October, November and December. Why? The Democrats controlled both houses. So I believe this is Peloski's and Reid's problem child. This business should have been concluded before the Nov. elections of 2010, but no now it is a pollitical football that is being tossed from one house to the other, back to the president wth the media as the ref. The Democrats dropped the ball in 2010 when they clearly had possesion of it and now must share it. This has thrown them into a temper tantrum. "Blame the tea party," the media and dems say. Blame the Republican house. No matter who they blame the bottom line is that the Democrats controlled both house in 2010 and could have passed a budget, but failed. So here we are now facing a shutdown. It is a shame that they failed to pass a budget in 2010. Shame on them!

      April 8, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


      April 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family


      Listen, my family is also in the military. They WILL PAY YOU. Stop posting over and over again that they won't. You're either ignoring the facts or just lying to everyone to try to get your way. THE MILITARY WILL GET PAID, it will just be delayed.

      This government shutdown is going to be 1-2 weeks. WHERE ARE YOUR SAVINGS? DON'T TELL ME YOU COULD SAVE UP ENOUGH FOR 1-2 WEEKS OF BILLS!

      April 8, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • jcm52

      kim: if we're going to cast blame, let's make sure it's appropriately distributed. The Republicans filibustered everything they could last year. They filibustered bills that ended up passing 98-0. They filibustered military spending bills that they supported. Why? Because they wanted to delay everything. Absolutely everything. So now they want to complain that things didn't get passed?

      April 8, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Wow

    This is maybe the dumbest list I've ever read.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      Especially the bit about the white house gift shop. That was the lamest attempt at a joke I've heard so far this year.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      Why is noone at CNN taking up arms against the editors!?! Stop covering the news and start making it!

      April 8, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
  4. bsitz

    Cut those geezers social security checks. Damn fools have no idea what they are doing.....they only vote for people they can actually remember. Look at Lautenberg in NJ....

    April 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Bellic

    I say shut 'er down!!! Only by doing this can we actually learn that maybe we need to work together to get this stuff done. And I'm sure our soldiers will get paid for their work after the government is back up and running again. And if they are true patriotic soldiers who fight for the love of the flag, as I hope they all are, they won't mind anyway.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brooke Long

      ok u say im sure they will get paid once its back up in running, but as a military wife what is the military supposed to do about bills while its not up and running and while everyone that doesnt have a govt job get paid. its complete bull hockey!

      April 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Yes, "And if they are true patriotic soldiers who fight for the love of the flag, as I hope they all are, they won't mind anyway" Please tell that to the banks that the soldiers owe money to and the grocery store where they try to buy food. As a spouse of a soldier, I love how people enjoy saying what should and should not happen for the love of country. As much as my husband loves his country, it is a job. If the country, and those living in it, loved him and the job he does, they would pay him for his service.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • ashley

      As a soldier I can say we are patriotic but we have families and bills just like everyone else!

      April 8, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bellic

      We survived over 25% unemployment rate in the Great Depression. Hundreds of thousands of people lost their homes and their jobs. They lived for weeks, months, and even years without income. Look at the struggles they went through, and then ask yourself if you really have the right to complain about what will probably only be about 2-3 weeks max of no spa money.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Curious

      Sorry. Just to clarify. You expect soldiers to do a job and not get paid because it epitomizes service? What job we're talking about aside, who would do that for any job?

      April 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheila

      That's easy for someone to say who is not getting shot at or who is not deployed every other year. Let's see how patriotic you are when you lay everything down for your country and your country says you aren't worth paying.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • blue

      your an idiot. we may fight for the flag but we all have children and bills to pay and not getting paid is a huge deal for us in the military. lets see how safe you all feel if all military shut down and didnt serve their country for a week or so

      April 8, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • PZ

      I think they will mind when they are being shot at in Afganistan and the wife e-mails that the electric is cut off and she can't dfeed the kids. Many enlisted folks make so little they live paycheck to paycheck. I notice Obama and the legislators will get their checks. Shame on them all for making us a laughing stock. Shame on them for treating our military this way. Shame on them all.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      @Brooke Long

      The military still gets paid, just not on time. If you didn't save enough to have 6 months expenses in the bank, then you were living ABOVE your means. Responsible people have saved 6-12 months of money to live WITHOUT a paycheck. What's your excuse?

      If you are living paycheck to paycheck, it's time to give up some luxuries. If you gave up everything you have and still can't save, then you probably didn't make good choices in the past.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • ngap

      A vast majority of the US military is very patriotic and I know that 100% of my brothers and sisters in arms will show up for their jobs tomorrow or Monday because it is our duty. So Mr. BELLIC, unless you are in the military, I dare you to stand in front of one of our nation's finest and tell them that they aren't patriotic. We do fight for our flag, but we do have families and a small percentage of the military lives in base housing simply because there isn't enough to go around. We still have to feed our families, put gas in our vehicles to get to a job that isn't paying us and all the other expenses that come with living in this country that we defend with out blinking an eye. This is the first time in my life and Naval career that I am honestly upset with our country's leadership. They may make bad decisions with foreign policy and other issues, however I know that ALOT of the "elected" officials will be losing votes from my fellow patriotic servicemen and women. Have a nice day and God bless America.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      I love my job, but don't think for one second I'd do it for free. Are you kidding me with this? You honestly expect these people to work for free, then hope the Tea Baggers will allow them to have their back pay? Just because someone is patriotic doesn't mean they don't have wives and children, mortgages, car payments, utility bills etc. These private industries aren't shutting down and you can guarantee they won't wait for the government to get these soldiers their checks before they start taking possessions back. For shame.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Natalie

      Oh my husband does mind, we want to get paid thats all we care about sorry! we need money to pay for food. he works for the government and should get paid. Even more then he does now. measily little checks. they cut half his pay for april 15. we cant do nothing with it.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan Hicks

      Bellic, Will you be giving up your pay as well during this shut down? Will you be sacrificing and struggling along side of them? You make me sick you coward. If the government does shutdown, I will help any soldier with bills and food as long as I have funds available. If I don't have it, He or she and their family is invited to dinner. Just Call me. God bless our troops, the only ones that know what the word sacrifice truly means.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fmm

      Bellic you're so stupid. Let's see your company skip out and not pay you for a month and see you sing this same tune. These people have families on top of their patriotic and heroic duties while you're here assuming everyone has savings and credit to dip in for the time being. Pull your head out.

      April 8, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • brian

      LOL ...the true patriotism of the flag ? Screw that .... i can guarantee you that not 1 of them fights for patriotism . Patriotism isn't going to feed their children back home while they get shot at by people we have no business protecting to begin with . What if they happen to die during this shutdown ?

      April 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Soldier

      ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? ENLISTED SOLDIERS DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH TO SAVE 6-8 MONTHS. IT IS NOT ABOUT GETTING ANYTHING EXTRA. I AM A MILITARY SOLDIER AND I live paycheck to paycheck and BARELY make it, and all Ido is pay bills and put food on the table for my family. Explain where I find extra money to save 6-8 months.

      April 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • nikkkom

      > Let's see your company skip out and not pay you for a month and see you sing this same tune.

      Newsflash for all government workers: this happens in private sector all the time! Your company's owner is incompetent, company goes belly up – who's suffering? – workers! Why do you think you deserve better when govt finances go belly up?

      April 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


      April 8, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family


      Hi. your capslock is on. You seem to have internet service and a computer. you can start by stopping service and selling your computer. You have a cell phone? people lived without it before. I bet you have a nice big tv, playstation 3 and or xbox huh? maybe your wife needs to work. have kids? maybe you had kids without regard of how much money a child costs a family. i'm sorry your decisions in life was poorly made, but that's no excuse.

      April 8, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family


      You WILL GET PAID! Just not on time! Where are your savings for rainy days??!?!?!? for pete's sake, where is the responsibility??? This will not last longer than a week or two. don't tell you couldnt save up for 2 weeks of bills!!!!

      April 8, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • jen

      @military family - really just STFU - don't assume you know every single person's financial sitatution... i have a husband that was out of work for 18+ months and who was ill with genetic cancer - he just got back to work 2.5 months ago, all of our savings was chewed up during that time - what is your excuse for being such an a**hole!

      April 8, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      YOU are my excuse. Let me guess. mommy and daddy supported every choice you made. Well guess what princess, this is the reality police.

      The reality is, there is no excuse for not saving. yes hardship comes, thats when savings deplete. you saved, you covered it. So what's wrong with implementing that to others?

      I'm not assuming i know everyone's financial situation. It is what it is. There's nothing wrong with generalizing. Why should i allow the very very few to represent the vast majority? that's senile.

      yes i am a jerk, the hole of an donkey if you will. my excuse? I came from a family with nothing. no home, no car, no money, no work. Parents refused welfare, housing assistance. Yes you read it right! REFUSED. Parents worked, took jobs as a maid and janitor. worked, got an education. double degree actually. got a new job. got a car. got a home.

      That's my excuse. I'm not sorry. Yes i'm a jerk to those who won't take responsiblity for themselves.

      April 8, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • jcm52

      I trust you're willing to loan everything in your bank account to soldiers' families until they get paid because you love the flag so much, right? They'll get paid eventually, so you don't have to worry – it'll get paid back.

      April 8, 2011 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      This is the problem with most of the morons in America – STOP spending money on things you want. Spend on things you NEED, and save the rest for a rainy day (i.e. a delay in paycheck coming in or a loss of a job). Create your own safety net, before coming to the government to take care of you.

      April 8, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |

      You sound very much like an officers wife

      April 8, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Bobb

    I can't decide whether this reminds me more of the Katzenjammer Kids, the Three Stooges, or a Benny Hill episode.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      I vote for Benny. There were more b00bies on his show.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Realist

    Its so funny how people can say that you should have money for atleast 6 months. Like someone else said it is not that easy. Not all American live beyond there means. Some Americans only make enough money to pay the bills and feed their family. When they are able to save money many times it has to be used for other necessities, like repairing a car. It amazes me how people who have a little something look down on the others that don't. It s not always that black and white. I would hate to see what these people would have to do in order to survive if they no longer had savings. Just because you have always has savings doesn't mean that one day you will always. It can happen.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      I have 12 months saved up, going for 24. I went through a mass layoff and lived off my savings with a family. I came from a family with nothing, parents immigrated and started with nothing. No home, no car, no job. parents got an education, got a job, got a house, got a car. I did the same. We are RESPONSIBLE.

      Those who can't save 6-12months of money, either live above their means AND/OR made bad decisions growing up.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gladys

      You've got to give up a few things, and sacrifice, that's how poor people like me save money.

      But, I'll bet you have a flat screen TV, subscription TV plan, and/oror cell phone. If so, you should be ashamed of your comments because it is YOU who is to blame for your situation. As it is for our government, so you cannot live beyond your means – forever.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      I have a real hard time grasping how you can say this, Military Family. You don't know these people at all. Just because You were able to save up money doesn't mean anything for me and mine. The fallacy of Hasty Generalization comes to mind. So I had to replace a head gasket in my car, fix a heater last winter, put braces on my little girl.. now because that's depleted my emergency fund I'm "living above my means?" Try not living on your high horse for a bit and we'll talk.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      you seem to have an internet service and a computer. you can give that up and save yourself 50-70 dollars a month. that's two weeks of food right there unless you buy junk food and name brands.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      Again, military family, you don't know anything about me, so step off. Yes, I do have an internet connection for my job, I work from home about 20 hrs. a week, 2 I'm not on my home connection, I'm on a public computer in a library on my lunch break. And for basic Internet I pay about $30/month. Or 1/2 of 1 weeks worth of food for the average couple. For more than a second, for me, just pretend you don't know everything about all 6 billion people living on the planet, or even all 300,000,000 in this country. It'll go a long way.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      I don't have a high horse, i'm living within my means. I can afford a high horse, but i'm not buying one because i like saving and investing money instead.

      Hey Seriously? I came from nothing and built up where i am today. What's your excuse? Braces on a little girl? water heater? really? seriously?

      Is there ANY excuse why people can't save responsibly? The median household income in the US is $50,000. You need to have 25-50k in the bank. Did the braces and water heater really cost your $25,000? seriously? If you couldn't save that much, then i stand by my accusations that you made some or a lot of bad decisions life while growing up.

      You see...some people went to parties, some people stayed home and did homework. Some went out and bought a Ford Mustang, some went to college. Some people waited til they had careers before starting a family, some didn't. So what's your excuse?

      April 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      I guess my "excuse" is going through school again, a bank defaulting on my loan and wrecking my credit when I was 18 and not being able to afford an attorney to file class action and inheriting a boat load of debt from my mother's cancer battle after my father died. Oh, ya. I've been living above my means; I have a '91 mazda, it's so sweet. All my bro's are jealous of it, only 300k miles on it, too. Also, I require a bit of protein, so I can't eat ramen for breakfast lunch and dinner. Guess I do need to step back and look at how I'm living, way too recklessly and luxuriously for sure. I apologize for trying to provide such lavish and selfish wants for myself. "I don't want to live on this planet anymore."

      April 8, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      I guess you don't know how to read median charts either. See if you consider billionaires it skews it terribly. I certainly don't make $50,000 a year, I'd wager I'm twice as close to the poverty line than $50,000 a year. Maybe after law school I'll make that much, I can only hope, you see I have absolutely no idea what I'd do if I made $30k a year, much less $50k. I'd cry if I made $30k a year, I'd literally feel like a millionaire, maybe then I could save 6 to 12 months salary.

      April 8, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gladys

      To Seriously?
      My family is a military family. I applaud all servicemen/women for their service and dedication to our country.

      Will all due respect, I make very little money also, but I work at least 50 hours a week to feed my family. I have to take on odd jobs, and do with less. I have learned that what I think I really need sometimes isn't really a need at all, but a want.
      I have learned how to be more self reliant, I do more maintenance on my car, mower, furnace, appliances, plumbing and electrical. I learned all this by myself without help – library books and the Internet. I have an 11 year old car that gets 33 mpg. No modifications, rims, wheels, etc. Original radio/CD. But it works and fits my needs. Sure I want something better, but why?- to inflate my pride probably.
      I am even able to save a little money, too. For the first time in five years I was able to save enough money to take my family on a nice vacation.
      I understand how expensive braces can be; so when my kids were told they needed braces, it took careful consideration. However, It came down to this. My children's problems were not life threatening and my children did not experience any pain or discomfort, so we waited to get them ...their teeth came in fine and they don't need braces now! In many cases, I think braces are suggested too often.
      Of course, I don't know your situation is, but I believe that you have to take care of yourself, no one else will take care of you.

      April 8, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family


      You claim that I don't know what median is???? I'm actually a Theoretical Mathematics Graduate. Working and going to get my PhD. Anyways, i DO know. YOU don't know. Median is NOT skewed by extreme data. Why don't you use your free public library internet access and learn the difference between average and median and then come tell me if im wrong.

      The bank defaulted...that's probably because you bought a house you can't afford. Banks hate to default, its a loss for them. Sell your car, save on insurance and gas. Use public transportation. Sounds to me you are making excuses.

      Again, we started with no home, no car, no money, no education. What's your excuse? I'm sorry to hear your mother died of cancer, but i doubt you inherited the cost. You CAN refuse debt obtained by your parents, except IF you ACCEPTED inheritance.

      Ever heard of Pursuit of Happyness? cmon man, NO EXCUSES!

      April 8, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      Dude... the bank defaulted. They filed for chapter 11 restructuring bankruptcy. They went down and my $1,500 student loan went with them. I had already paid my school with this loan, they took the $1,500 out without notification which caused that check to my school to bounce, and the rest is history. Bank closed my account, I have arrears with the bank and the school as an 18 year old. What was a child supposed to do, I'm in school because I don't have any experience in the world yet, but suddenly I need to have a knowledge of the federal courts so I can recover my debts, but an 18 year old who is terrified can't readily do that. And minimum wage part time doesn't exactly bring in the money to pay an attorney to take on class action against a bank. Again, I apologize for living so lavishly through my life, I grovel at your thrown, your highness.

      April 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      The reason people can't afford health care is because people default on the high costs, increasing risk for providers and insurance. If I complain about that stuff I can't very well do the opposite when the rubber hits the road... it's called principle.

      April 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      Also, I don't understand your referencing a Will Smith movie.

      April 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


      April 8, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family


      Are you for real? You basically said anyone in the military is poor. Um...some of us are successful lady. some military personel do really well actually. maybe you need to start questioning and planning your future ambitions. Go to school while in service and hard work, smart work always pays off.

      April 8, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


      April 8, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
  8. tom-ay

    what about foreclusures... are clerks federal? wouldnt' a mortgage co have to go through a clerk?

    April 8, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Jacquelyne

    I hope it shuts down all the childish behavior coming from Washington

    April 8, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Les

    I would be happy to write a soldier a check instead if the IRS... if they would let me.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bella

      I second that!

      April 8, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Brooke Long

    I am a military wife and a child and we live paycheck to paycheck cause as a military spouse my job is taking care of the family and house. If the government shuts-down how do they expect military to pay their bills?? But yet the people taking away our pay will still get their full pay????? makes no sense to me! I can't believe also the president is willing to veto a bill that states they will short term military pay till September, that means still paying the military their full paychecks. but he wants to veto it because its only short-term. Well even if it is short-term that gives the president till september to come up with something long term.... but no he wants to screw us over now!

    April 8, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Olaf

      Don't blame the president. Blame GOP for creating a hollow bill – by inserting the defunding of planned parenthood, they knew that it would get vetoed. The bill is nothing more than an attempt to shift blame.

      From what I have heard, the democrats and Boehner are very close to an agreement, except that Boehner is also trying to please the Tea Party, which is pretty impossible. The Tea Party is a minority in GOP, and represents at most 20% of the voters. Why do we let a minority group hold us hostage?

      April 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • PZ

      Of course, government funded abortion is far more important than paying soldiers! Good call Mr. President!

      April 8, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      Whether or not you are for Planned Parenthood, its not something that should be passed in the general budget.
      Democrats know they can't get it passed on the house and senate floor, so instead of passing it as a law, they just slide it into the budget. Its things like these that cause shutdowns in the firstplace. There should be NO rider legislation, nor ANY funding for non-governmental projects or agencies, allowed as part of the General Budget Omnibus legislation. (BTW, the Republicans are just as guilty of this, they tried to slide in privatizing medicare as part of the budget as well!)

      April 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      Hey we are military too. Why do you live paycheck to paycheck? You are living above your means. You need to be responsible and save 6-12 months of money in order to prepare for these occassions. Do you think this is the only time this will happen?

      If you can't save, then give up some luxuries. If you can't give up luxuries you are living above your means. If you gave up everything and can't save, then i'm sorry you were irresponsible growing up and made bad decisions in life.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      I don't mean to be insensitive. How many soldiers were laid off during the recession? Every single income family is struggling at the moment. I agree that they should pay the soldiers first before the rest of the government. But you cannot complain about being paycheck to paycheck when you do not earn a paycheck. Just my two cents...

      April 8, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      Military will receive back-pay, and you will have to live off of your savings in the meantime. If you have no savings, you are living beyond your means (like most Americans). While you should hope for the best, be prepared for the worst . Even little birds with their miniscule brains have the sense to build a NEST before they lay an egg. I'm just sayin'...

      April 8, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      @PZ The Hyde Amendment. Know it, love it. Knowing is half the battle.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


      April 8, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • military family

      @Mrs Capslock

      Im in a military family. my father is military and my brother. I'm not, no i went on the private sector. But yes i am in a military family growing up. mom was not, she got a business degree and a law degree, that's a JD just in case you didnt know. My father got a degree in engineering and joined the military. They accomplished this while raising two boys and working as a maid in a hotel and janitor. So what's your excuse for being a whiny little princess? you don't know what it's like to be at the bottom. you are just a cry baby.

      me? i went into mathematics, i help design missiles that your husband may have used. my wife? finance, she makes a good living. my brother? military, he isn't complaining about all this, he will get paid just not in time. why isn't he complaining? he saved and saved and saved. we did his financial reports for taxes and he saved more than me. about $120,000 so far. i'm sorry you don't make that much in the military, but it's not a salary problem, it's an ambition problem. My father and brother climbed the ranks. so what's your excuse for staying at the bottom?

      April 8, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda


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    • jcm52


      I'm going to call BS on you. "i help design missiles that your husband may have used" Oh really? And earlier you claimed to be a "theoretical mathematician" who is working on a PhD. You may be at LANL or Livermore as a GRA, and maybe you are doing some research tangentially related to future weapons systems. But they wouldn't have a "theoretical mathematician" PhD student working on designing a missile. At most you're doing a bit of code answering a question someone higher than you would like to know the answer to.

      You're rounding up on everything and inflating what you're really doing. Take it from a PhD applied mathematician (with a theoretical mathematics undergrad degree) who was a GRA and postdoc at LANL.

      April 8, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      If the publicans actually cared so much for the military folks, then they would pass a bill with only military funding in it with no riders and nothing else. Wonder why they didn't do that? And if the mocrats were smart they would pass a bill with only military funding. But, they're both a bunch of duma$$es.

      April 8, 2011 at 9:18 pm | Report abuse |
  12. viking1938

    I say shut it down and when we open the doors of Government again lets layoff 70% of them. There is no sense having 10 workers in the Agriculture department for every farmer in the US and on and on and ON!!! Get rid of whole departments such as Education and Energy that fight the will of the people rather than serve it. No more funding of Arts and NGO's that are just a pay off to political supporters.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • texas pete

      Good point, maybe we can figure out how to make some of these cuts permanent. 800,000 government workers sitting around at home. Let's see if we even notice.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Olaf

      There is also no point in sending billions of dollars in subsidies to the farmers, who are mostly billion-dollar corporations. Let's cut the subsidies to those corporations, that will save more money than all this political bickering.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  13. bobbitt

    Women's health care should not be the issue. Have the congress sell their viagra pruchased through their tax payer insurance plan to come up with the spending cuts. Men's health care.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • ActnJackson

      They are cutting a handout to a private organization. Has no affect on what is covered by your insurance.

      April 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobbitt

      BS the gvmt insurance plan pays for prescription drugs. Those senators all need to get it up every day

      April 8, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  14. AGuest9

    The lack of clue is astonishing. Please reinstate civics classes in high schools!!!!

    April 8, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Gary

    The only government employees who should go without pay are the legislators who can't seem to get their heads out of their butts long enough to do what's good for the country instead of whatever interest group is padding their pockets.

    April 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
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