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1. Marcel
   

   Small shooting? 6 killed and 4 severely wounded with a machine gun.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:20 am | Report abuse |
   • Marcel
     

     In a mall, sorry I read too fast.

     April 9, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
2. Michael
   

   BA BA BOOEY

   April 9, 2011 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
3. NWO
   

   New rumours from well-informed source tell different tale, shooter is infact military, ex-military through budget cuts last week. Shooter aimed to kill Northern African and Arabic immigrants cause in his opinion they are responsible for the recent downfall in Dutch society. Shooter definitely tried to make a statement here, very similar to the man who set himself on fire last week.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
   • Guuds
     

     If you use a machinegun, you cant exactly be called a sharpshooter, can you? If you use that kind of weapon, you shoot to kill as many people as you can hit. Period. Obviously, you have a very sick mind if you do

     April 9, 2011 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
   • ChrisD
     

     name a source for that please

     April 9, 2011 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
   • Guuds
     

     what you claim there is untrue. An eyewitness said he was shooting aimlessly

     April 9, 2011 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
4. bas
   

   Police confirmed 6 killed, 4 severely wounded.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
5. Judus
   

   One person killed killed is 1 too many.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
   • Justen
     

     Give the people back their right to defend themselves. It is ridiculous beyond words that the people are left to the mercy of some gutless, spineless thugs. Stripping the right to carry a gun from the law abiding only turns them into helpless victims who must cower in fear and wait to be rescued. The PEOPLE have a God given right to defend themselves.

     April 9, 2011 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
   • ZKH Eénoog
     

     Look here. Yet another victim defiling Hillbilly that thinks these kind of tragedies will be solved by having more firearms around. Look for my earlier link, and see for yourself what the difference is.
     And then what: some guy comes walking into the mall, shooting around and 10 or 20 people start firing back? You really think that would result in less victims?

     April 9, 2011 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
6. niels van der kolk
   

   official numbers are now:
   6 deaths
   9 wounded

   Message from Alphen ad rijn Holland

   April 9, 2011 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
7. budah
   

   the brazilian shooter was planning to turn muslim, however he didn't have the guts, that's why possibly curly in NL went nuts?......... This world is slowly but shurely getting crazy, let's start with ourselves and just behave! Bless all victims and strength to all relatives and loved ones !!

   April 9, 2011 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
   • andyk
     

     Tat is a bizarre statement. If the brazilian shooter (who undoubtedly was mentally ill) wanted to turn muslim, why didn't he have the "guts" to say it in his suicide note... afterall, he'll be dead, not much they can do to him then. Instead he talks about priests and Jesus forgiving him... sounds like you're a bigot who probably thinks Judas was Muslim and that Catholic priests are muslims but don't have the guts to come out. Ignorance!

     April 9, 2011 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
8. luke
   

   the police will start an investigation. Did you see the crime numbers police are solving in the Netherlands.. Well there is no trust or hope in the police force of the Netherlands. Oh i am sorry there solving a lot of traffic violations like driving 5 km per hour to fast on the highway.
   My condolences to the victims and there family.

   p.s The Government of the Netherlands should give the law abiding citizens a permit to carry guns.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
   • ChrisD
     

     yea ... right this shooter was probably a law obiding citizen ... so he should have a gun according to you. That way these shootings can happen with the frequentie of (oh let's say) the US. Good idea friend! NOT

     April 9, 2011 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
9. Jurriën
   

   At the moment there is a confirm of 6 kills (one victim was a heavily shocked person who died of a heartattack in his/her wheelchair), but there be still rumours that there be more then 7 people got killed. More then 11 injuries, whom 4 seriously wounded and at least 2 light wounded!! Probably more injuries during the rumour to get out of the mall.

   The shooter was a white/caucasian male, probably 25 yrs old. He killed himself with a headshot, eyewitnesses said.

   April 9, 2011 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
   • Jurriën
     

     Motive is still unknown. Eyewitnesses of the shooting are heared by the police in a church related center, close to the mall. A crisisteam of the city came together for a consultation with the mayor. Later this day, the mayor have a conversation with the Dutch secretary of Safety and Justice.

     April 9, 2011 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
10. Meers
    

    Number of death: 6
    number of injuries: 16

    April 9, 2011 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
11. Arrowmint
    

    there will be more deaths, there are quite a few heavily injured,, headshots etc... and they dont know how many injured people were taken care off by other doctors. Even in a country with about the strictest gunlaws in europe this can happen. And people here cant even defend themselves...

    April 9, 2011 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Guuds
      

      There is no way you can defend yourself against madness

      April 9, 2011 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
12. ted
    

    The social engineering experiment of disarming citizens has proven to be a failure time and time again. Without a means to defend your self you are a victim and a serf. I would rather live in the US and be free than live there and not. My prayers for the victim and their families.

    April 9, 2011 at 9:44 am | Report abuse |
    • ChrisD
      

      well dissarming is a US issue. There is no diss arming required in the Netherlands because we dont have that foundation and tradition of gun ownership. At no point in time where most people in posession of a gun in The Netherlands. So its hard to compare the two.

      April 9, 2011 at 9:47 am | Report abuse |
13. Expat
    

    Looks like Holland needs to review CWC laws. Hard to defend against a machine gun with bare hands

    April 9, 2011 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Omg
      

      Yeah, lets give all ppl guns, that way the world will be much safer, right?!?! Damn you are dumb

      April 9, 2011 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Expat
      

      You' prefer lambs to slaughter? Mr. Hitler was able to do that to a lot of innocent victims. At least Warshaw was able to respond.

      April 9, 2011 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • SandyBottom
      

      absolutely amazing how some people still can think that more weapons will make the world a safer place.

      that's a true obsolete mindset in the modern world...

      April 9, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
14. Rosetta
    

    6 People are been killed, and 4 very heavenly wounded, so this number of dead could be possible end up ate 10 people.
    Allot of shopping people are also been hit. The shouter used a mitrailleur, and even reloded again to shout the mitrailleur empty again. A petshop owner saw everything happend before his eyes. He claimed more then 10 people are been killed.

    News Netherlands:

    Six dead in shooting Alphen aan den Rijn
    Deposition at shopping Riddle in Alphen a / d Rijn Deposition at shopping Riddle in Alphen a / d Rijn, Peter van de Panne / Twitpic
    Added: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 13:01
    Update: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 14:17

    In Riddle mall in Alphen aan den Rijn has a little after midnight shooting occurred. The police reports that four deaths. There are also nine wounded, several of them are in bad shape.

    The police confirmed that there was a perpetrator. He is one of the dead. Eyewitnesses say that it was a blond man aged about 25 going. He walked a little after midnight, shot with an automatic weapon through the mall. After he had made his victims, he shot himself with another weapon to the head.

    Two supermarkets in the mall were evacuated and the area is closed. The municipality of Alphen aan den Rijn has a crisis team convened at the town.
    Machine gun

    The owner of a pet saw everything happen. "There was panic in the mall, many people running. I saw people lying on the floor. When I saw the perpetrator, I went inside and I closed the blinds."

    It was at the time of the shooting pressure in the mall. The shopkeeper fears that certainly five to ten deaths.

    Another eyewitness has not seen the shooting itself, but on arrival saw a corpse lying in a parking lot.
    Previous shooting

    On April 2 there was also a shooting in Alphen aan den Rijn. When two people were killed and two were injured.

    April 9, 2011 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Dutchguy
      

      Why are you pasting a TERRIBLE translation of a news article?

      April 9, 2011 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
15. Hannah
    

    numer of death: 10
    numer of injuries: 20

    April 9, 2011 at 9:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Rosetta
      

      @Hannah,

      Just read it on Twitter, you are right 10 people are been killed.

      April 9, 2011 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |