At least two people were killed in a shooting at a shopping mall in Alphen aan den Rijn, in the Netherlands, early Saturday, eyewitnesses tell CNN affiliate NOS.
This tragic incident is very rare in The Netherlands. This kind of shooting is the first incident of its sort; I can't recall something like this has ever happend before. Also someone carrying an automatic weapon is very strange and illegal for sure as no one ownes a weapon.
Ohw yes it did, but they never told the outsite world.
Once one big wild west shooting in a city called Schiedam.
Between cops and gangsters from Turkey and Marocco.
2 monts later in a sport center same city, this happend 10 years ago.
I saw with my own eyes how they drive in cars with havy guns
around the corner, this was the day I'll quitte with free lance work
over there.
By the way the shouter weare a Camouflage suit, it could be possible a soldier.
The Netherlands wants to quite soldiers, and its been possible that he lost his mind
over this. Becaus of loss his job in the army.
Lets wait what they tell us more today.
At this time, 6 people killed (including perp), 9 people very seriously injured, 5 average wounded people, 2 wounded. That this could happen in our little country....
It looks that there was not enough medical assistance and er was assitence from medical teams 30 miles away at noon. Hospitals in the area where not abble of helping of al the wounded. Wounded have be relocated, but what I hear of the injuries there will be more death. It's the second shooting in a week in the same city, where normali nothing happens. The shooting was netweeen 10 and 20 minutes long and the number of injured people are low consediring the number of people how where in the mail (over 100).
acutally, you are talking nonsense. I live close to that mall and yes, Im very shocked, but its not like it happens every day, not even every decade. It is, as tragic as it is, an incident, not common daily chore. It sure wont keep me from getting my groceries there next week
Actually I am not talking non-sense. It is tragic yes, but the people have a right to defend themselves. Instead something like this happens and everyone is a victim.
this is our first and its probably because of the open borders in europe. Meaning that lots of guns can be carried over the border without any problem since there is no border patrol in the EU by car. So all the guns circuling in East Europe can be transported to Holland easily.
Justen, I wouldnt feel more safe in the knowledge that theres a gun behind every frontdoor. It seems more likely to use it when you have acces to it instead of using your head
Gun control only makes sense if ALL guns are taken in (except for police etc.) Without that the criminals have a free ride with their illegal guns. Not a possibility though. Guns come in over the open borders for local criminals. And yes, thsi has happened in Holland before, Just not on the same horrible scale.
Justen, poor thing. Who ever told you that gun control can prevent every gunmurder? No one is claiming that. Who ever says that is nuts. The point is that gun control can limit the amount of murders. And in the case of The Netherlands, it has proven to do just that for centuries. What proves that? This is the first incident inwhere a man shoots indiscrimantly on a crowd with a machine gun. First time, .. you understand?
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Already 6 dead people, possible 10.
This tragic incident is very rare in The Netherlands. This kind of shooting is the first incident of its sort; I can't recall something like this has ever happend before. Also someone carrying an automatic weapon is very strange and illegal for sure as no one ownes a weapon.
@Syb
Ohw yes it did, but they never told the outsite world.
Once one big wild west shooting in a city called Schiedam.
Between cops and gangsters from Turkey and Marocco.
2 monts later in a sport center same city, this happend 10 years ago.
I saw with my own eyes how they drive in cars with havy guns
around the corner, this was the day I'll quitte with free lance work
over there.
By the way the shouter weare a Camouflage suit, it could be possible a soldier.
The Netherlands wants to quite soldiers, and its been possible that he lost his mind
over this. Becaus of loss his job in the army.
Lets wait what they tell us more today.
I bet the shooter was one of many people in the military who got the bad news yesterday that they were getting laid off...
guns don't kill people, people do!
it just makes it a whole lot easier....
latest news...shooter wore a mini skirt but didn't bother to shave his legs.
LOL
The American view on private gun ownership seems less questionable to me today as a European.
how? Do you really think fewer of these incidents happen when more people have guns? Are you serious?
At this time, 6 people killed (including perp), 9 people very seriously injured, 5 average wounded people, 2 wounded. That this could happen in our little country....
Why is everyone so concern about the numbers, as I said in a earlier post: one death is one too many.
It looks that there was not enough medical assistance and er was assitence from medical teams 30 miles away at noon. Hospitals in the area where not abble of helping of al the wounded. Wounded have be relocated, but what I hear of the injuries there will be more death. It's the second shooting in a week in the same city, where normali nothing happens. The shooting was netweeen 10 and 20 minutes long and the number of injured people are low consediring the number of people how where in the mail (over 100).
We are living in a society where government have increasing distance and mistrust from people.
And the people should equally mistrust government. Why do you think the governments want strict control of guns?
White male, blond hair, blue eyes, ex-military.
Janissary?
There goes the theory that strict gun control makes you safer.
acutally, you are talking nonsense. I live close to that mall and yes, Im very shocked, but its not like it happens every day, not even every decade. It is, as tragic as it is, an incident, not common daily chore. It sure wont keep me from getting my groceries there next week
Actually I am not talking non-sense. It is tragic yes, but the people have a right to defend themselves. Instead something like this happens and everyone is a victim.
Damn, I bet you weren't in the front row when they handed out active brain cells, now were you?
Check the statistics. And try to keep quiet unless you know what you're talking about.
Justen should check the facts before he speaks. This has NEVER happened in Holland before, BECAUSE of our strict gun laws.
this is our first and its probably because of the open borders in europe. Meaning that lots of guns can be carried over the border without any problem since there is no border patrol in the EU by car. So all the guns circuling in East Europe can be transported to Holland easily.
Justen, I wouldnt feel more safe in the knowledge that theres a gun behind every frontdoor. It seems more likely to use it when you have acces to it instead of using your head
Gun control only makes sense if ALL guns are taken in (except for police etc.) Without that the criminals have a free ride with their illegal guns. Not a possibility though. Guns come in over the open borders for local criminals. And yes, thsi has happened in Holland before, Just not on the same horrible scale.
No Expat, Gun control makes sense with every single gun you take of the streets.
please check the statistics on this and be amazed how US tops the list together with some 3rd world countries
Justen, poor thing. Who ever told you that gun control can prevent every gunmurder? No one is claiming that. Who ever says that is nuts. The point is that gun control can limit the amount of murders. And in the case of The Netherlands, it has proven to do just that for centuries. What proves that? This is the first incident inwhere a man shoots indiscrimantly on a crowd with a machine gun. First time, .. you understand?
The shooting shot randomly. Just reported by a child eyewithness on dutch national television.
Time to update the headline???