Overheard on CNN.com: More states increase abortion restrictions
April 14th, 2011
05:27 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: More states increase abortion restrictions

"Even with the best birth control, women become inadvertently pregnant. Pro-lifers will tell that young woman she must have that baby, then ignore the suffering of the unwanted child who lives in abject poverty for life. I wonder how many conservatives have spoken out against a national health care system to provide medical care for the children of single mothers."–Aginghippy

More states restrict abortions; group says trend 'unparalleled'

Arizona recently banned public funding to train physicians to perform abortions; the state also banned tax credits for donations to Planned Parenthood. Kansas joined Nebraska in banning abortions after 21 weeks because of “fetal pain.” Many CNN.com readers said the new laws showed church entanglement with state policies.

pfriedkin said, "The push for these laws are purely the work of Christian extremists. Their "social" agenda is really a religious agenda and an attempt for force everyone to do what they say." Jilli asked, "Can burkhas be far behind?"

AngryDeuce said, "This is why churches should not get tax-free status: the money they claim is going to help the needy is going to lobbyist groups and perverting our political system with their beliefs. You want tax-exempt status, you show me the soup kitchen or homeless shelter it is funding. One penny goes to politics, and you lose your tax-free card for 5 years. That's how it ought to be."

Many questioned why states would withhold funding for abortions when society might have to pay for the future problems that might cause.  casselli said, "Is the GOP going to support all of these unwanted babies? What is going to happen when some of these women that will not take care of these babies start having them instead of having that procedure?"

Guest said, "I'd rather my tax money pay for an abortion than for the child's maintenance for 21 years."

Thrillhouse said, "Legalized and accessible abortion has shown a strong correlation with reduced crime rates. Right or wrong, there are very real consequences of forcing individuals to have unwanted children."

But others were more concerned about who pays the bill now. When enalunar said, "Keep your politics out of my uterus!" TK1957 answered, "Keep my tax dollars out of your uterus too." And frespech said, "Keep your mind in control of your uterus."

FREEDOM4 said, "You want birth control? Pay for it yourself. You want an abortion? Pay for it yourself. The taxpayers are maxxed out. We're willing to pay to care for the elderly, the sick and the disabled, but that's it. If you're an able-bodied person, pay for your own sex life."

18 years after Waco, Davidians believe Koresh was God

Nearly 20 years ago, 76 followers of self-proclaimed prophet David Koresh lost their lives during an FBI raid. The group was stockpiling machine guns and Koresh had engaged in sexual acts with underage Davidian girls, according to many sources. Some survivors still await Koresh’s return.

ZooperDoink said, "America's not a melting pot, it's a cereal bowl. Full of nuts, fruits, and flakes."

MarkDudier said, "He was more like a pedophile with a Jesus complex."

s33k3r75 said, "As crazy as this is, people have a fundamental right to join a cult and believe what they want. But no one has a right to rape underage kids or send their kids to be raped by the cult leader."

SadPanda said, "Have you ever noticed that the common denominator in cults and the like is that the leader gets to have sex with all the women? It's never about finding God or anything else, it's just so the main guy can fulfill some weird fantasies he never got to experience living in his mom's basement."

flippin said, "It's so sad how some are so easily brainwashed. And it's scary that someone like Koresh can so easily convince so many that he is God. He was a space cadet, a hypocrite, a sleeze, a liar, a pedophile, a thief, a murderer. Yet all these people were convinced he was God in the flesh. So much that they let their children be abused, suffer, and ultimately be killed in a fire."

Pleo said, "Given the enormity of the tragedy, and the loss of loved ones, it's easier for some of these people to believe they were right and their loved ones "died for Jesus,” than it is for them to accept the truth that they were duped by a charismatic cult leader. Very sad story."

tadam74811 said, "Koresh was as insane as Charles Manson, and unfortunately his followers were blinded by the craziness that sometimes accompanies religious fervor."

iRichard said, "Jim Jones, Terry Jones, Westboro, and Islamic extremists are all examples of the danger of radical religion. Our forefathers certainly knew what they were doing when they separated church and state."

Zsa Zsa Gabor to become new mother at 94, husband says

Zsa Zsa Gabor’s husband, Prince Frederic von Anhalt, wants to have a child “with” his 94-year old wife, using a donated egg, surrogate mother, and artificial insemination. lienn said, "Please tell me this is a joke!!!" CosMcOldGuy said, "Madness! Leave the poor old lady alone. She had a great run."

TheSwan1213 said, "A 67-year-old man (adopted as an adult to become a prince) wants to have a child with a 94-year-old one-legged bed-bound former actress? These people are nuts!!"

tovia said, "If his plan is for all three of them to wear diapers at the same time, then his timing is impeccable."

citizenUSA said, "So baby's first outing will be her mother's funeral."

AndyDaniel said, "I would bet that Zsa Zsa Gabor is not even aware of this statement by her husband, who in the past has done several bizarre things for publicity, including claiming to be the father or Anna Nicole Smith's baby, and claiming he was robbed and handcuffed naked to his car by a group of women. This will go exactly nowhere."

After expressing shock, many CNN.com readers began to speculate about the real purpose for pursuing paternity.

rebeyeh said, "So, technically it wouldn't be Zsa Zsa's natural offspring if they're using an egg donor and his sperm. She already has an heir, her daughter; this guy is afraid he won't get a penny when she dies."

kowalski66 said, "He is pretty shrewd, if you ask me! He is worried about the inheritance, and a baby with his seed will help seal the deal." TNopinion agreed, "I guess he's thinking if they have a joint child together, said child will inherit half the fortune and he will claim it by proxy."

LordPet said, "I suppose it's a way to make it harder for Francesca Hilton to contest the will." sD1 said, "Sounds like her daughter needs to be visiting a lawyer on Zsa-Zsa's behalf and soon."

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (187 Responses)
  1. Hello America

    Can we say freedom of choice? Who are all of the ones who think they have the right to dictate what someone else's choices have to be.. Are you going to be the ones to care for and pay to raise these unwanted children? Or leave it up to the Federal Govt and/or state to bear the burden? Everyone has a right to an opinion, but an opinion is just that...an opinion... whether we use tax dollars to pay for abortions or a life time of support for unwanted children, what's the alternative? Educating helps, but not even close to 100% effective.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Disappointed

    You can't reason with murderers.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
  3. banasy

    Of course if you ask the baby, it's a moot point. The baby would say, "Now that I'm here, I'm pro-life." And PBA's are abhorrent. However, I believe it's the woman's choice, as repulsive as that may be to *me*, personally. And no, I do not want my tax dollars paying for it, either...but what's the real answer, here? Swallow? Spit? Because there ill always be a rabid person out there who will start a rabble about how *that's* morally wrong too...

    April 14, 2011 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Philip

    @Hello America...that's right. Who has the right to dictate wether a child lives or dies. How pompous can ya get. And they do this with impunity! And they like rubbing your nose in it if you say no! Let the child live!

    April 14, 2011 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Philip

    And stop saying "we can't afford to feed them all". That's hogwash. Our social programs have been and are being generously funded. So where's the shortfall? example: We've all been paying into Social security our entire lives, yet our social security account is nothing more than a cabinet full of I.O.U. s from other government agencies (mainly the Pentagon) who borrow but never pay back. That's why even though we as a people oppose abortion, our government made it legal. If all those millions of aborted babies were living on welfare, there would be less to borrow.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
  6. David

    If a women is pregnant and wants to have an abortion due to any reason's she may feel is necessary not to bring a child into ths world, why force her to have it? If someone is determined to get it done, that person is going to get it done by any means possible, so it might as well be in a safe environment with a doctor trained in this procedure. Everyone has a valid point in this issue. It shouldn't come down to the money factor though. Our tax money pays for a lot of things we may not agree with, but honestly Is this arguement about money or is it about faith?

    April 14, 2011 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
  7. FED UP!

    I am just sick of people trying to ram their religious beliefs down my throat! All those religious nuts are doing is creating more ruined lives and social problems down the road. Women should absolutely have the right to choose!!!

    April 14, 2011 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Diane

    Hi folks, well as usual those that run their mouths about aboration the most this is what they need to do. Since they are so stuck on the NOMORE ABORATION and if the birth mother has chosen to give birth then give the baby away well my next statement is this

    April 14, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Mary Anne

    What everyone is missing is WHO pays for the babies that unwed teenagers are having? WE are. Why aren't the parents of these KIDS having KIDS held responsible? We pay for part of their hospitilization, diapers and formula (different states vary in what they pay for what). I say make the parents pay for their kids' mistakes and maybe they'll like having Planned Parenthood teaching them about birth control. I don't want my tax dollars going to support these kids because their parents don't know or care what their kids are doing.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Philip

    And we most-all give generously to charities. But just a few pennies out of each dollar actually arrives at it's intended destination. The truth is that there is plenty for all, even if we don't abort. The earth currently produces about 5 times the food necessarry to sustain life, so the problem isn't that there isn't enough to go around. The problem is some people think they get to decide who eats and who goes hungry and who struggles with starvation and who struggles with obesity. Some of them even think they get to decide if a baby lives or dies. (shrug) go figure

    April 14, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Diane

    sorry about that but every single elected official who votes to stop aborations should step up and adopt a baby rather than leave the child in an orffanage until they turn 18 then thrown out into the world. These so called Christians who don't give a dam about these women and children either step up to the plate or shut up.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  12. raven

    Pbas are repugnant. But there are options to reach for way before it ever gets to that point. Thats what Im talking about.

    April 14, 2011 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
  13. banasy

    Who has the right to say whether the fetus is aborted or not? The woman carrying the fetus! Who doesn't? Anybody else. Including the gov't. Simple as that.

    I would love it if science could figure out a way to implant the *father* of the child so *he* could carry the child, give birth to the baby, and raise the child...gee, we'd see just how many men back down on the whole must-have-the-child thingy, wouldn't we?

    April 14, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Philip

    Murder def. "The taking of a human life with malice aforethought" That lump in your womb is in fact a human life. Abortion is murder. Period. (now watch someone post "I hate it when the dictionary thumpers try to impose their definitions on us"

    April 14, 2011 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
  15. FED UP!

    Banasy, you just hit the jackpot! I could not have said it better myself!!!!

    April 14, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
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