Arizona's governor has vetoed a bill that would require President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they were born in the United States before their names could be placed on Arizona's ballots.
Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, said she could not "support designating one person as gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate."
Under the measure, if there were any dispute about whether a candidate had proved he or she had been born in the United States, Arizona's secretary of state would have the final say.
The Arizona "birther bill" got final approval by a vote of 40-16 last week in the state House. It now will not become law unless legislators vote to override Brewer's veto.
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Hey vern, call me when the republicans gut s.s. And mediciare and make veterans get vouchers to go to the va hospital! Holla
But that's soshulism!
Economy must be booming in Arizona, the law makers are not worried about creating jobs, instead they want to check birth certificates of presidential candidates, want proof of citizenship from brown people. Next time they will make a law that will require native indians (the real AMERICAN) to show proof of birth. That is one messed up State.
Yer an idiot, Vern.
Racist? Maybe. Idiot? For sure.
Too late now vern. Lol You going to build a time machine? The secret service investigates that stuff I believe. He's American get over it.
This continues to be the dumbest debate ever and those continuing to perpetuate this myth should be ashamed. They are catering to ignorance and proving nothing more than that they are unfit for office.
Well said, I didn't vote for him, but it has been discredited. Doesn't Arizona have bigger issues to deal with? Who the hell are they to step in and start challenging the presidential requirements, they are only one of fifty. so damn stupid! how about a damn border wall?
don't forget wasting tons of $$$$ on on an insanely stupid subject... u know the $$$ we don't have
Here's one for you. Rep Tom Graves borrowed 2.2 million bucks. Then the bank went bankrupt. Did it have stimulus money? Like the bank Eric Colder's wife's bank? She got over 3 million to prop her bank up. All these Tea Baggers (another name for NAZI?) have banks?Or connections to Banks? Wow. Lets see if I can borrow.......................I can't borrow enough to get blankets for homeless Vets. See you all at the Veterans hospital..............
we should be looking into how many bankruptcies Donald "I'm a birther" Trump has had. How many investors did he bilk out of millions and millions and get off free? And he did this several times. Trump has NO room to point fingers at anyone. Why he isn't in jail is amazing.
This is a shock, especially from a governor who has so far been on the side of the far right, ultra conservative, "tea bag" crowd.
We a person who backs a "show your papers" law thinks this legislation is a bad enough idea to veto it, then you know it stinks more than road kill that's been sitting in the Arizona summer sun.
it's AZ's own business how they handle illegal immigration. make sure your own house is in order before you go judging others.
paul: "We a person who backs a "show your papers" law thinks this legislation"
The fact that you're surprised shows you're either hyperpartisan or so shallow minded that you can't see any merit in your opponent's positions.
That said, the law she signed was not a "show your papers" law, it purportedly follows Federal legislation and, crucially, requires police to have "probable cause" in order to ask for identification. Probable cause is a sliding scale and in most every situation a cop will be confronted with, there will be absolutely no probable cause to think a person is in the country illegally.
Jogging? Nope.
Driving? Nope.
Jaywalking? Robbing a store? Murdering someone? Nope.
Karl Rove is getting through to the crazies that this isn't helping. They're driving the moderates who might vote Republican away with all of the crazy.
I wonder if AZ would have passed this law if McCain were elected president, he was in fact not born in the US. What is amusing to me is that the teabaggers that push this lie were behind McCain when he was running and said nothing about his elligibility to be president.
RobD, McCain did show his birth certificate when asked for it. It wasn't a big deal because McCain didn't make a big deal of it, he simply showed the requested docs and ended the discussion. I'm not saying that Obama is an illegal president, I believe someone would have exposed that. But I think he's made himself look like an obstructionist jerk by not simply showing it and ending the story. He's cutting off his nose to spite his face, which isn't becoming of a sitting US president.
McCain's parents were American, that is good enough for him to be considered natural born US citizen. That said, I didn't vote for him and would never vote for him.
Actually McCain was not born in the US.
[Moi] "McCain's parents were American..."
If that was the requirement that would disqualify most if not all the US population.
rob: "he was in fact not born in the US"
He was born on a military base, which is considered U.S. soil. Much less, his parents were American citizens, and under Federal law you're an American citizen when your mother is, no matter where you're born.
Nice try.
Everyone is not born in aristocratic & educated families. Children who are born to parents in rags & rugged conditions are under different conditions, become victoms of social & critical analysis due to inherent weaknesses which cannot be concealed.
Actually, as comparable of a situation as this seems, it isn't. McCain was born on a military base in Panama and, technically, military bases count as 'US soil'. So, yes, he was born 'in the USA'. And, of course, the birth location is irrelevant because at least 1 of his parents was a citizen.
M22- WRONG! Mcain was born in a Panama hospital that was annexed by the US 2 years after his birth.
Nice try!
Politicians is another word for HYPOCRITE A_HOLE money grubbing twinks. I really don't care if people call me names, I did my boot time. Wish they had kept the draft. I'm dying anyway. So will the politicians in time. We all will, me, Just a little sooner. Agent Orange was just a nasty tasting soda pop that caused death in slow motion.
Tim, you are a shameless liar. Obama did show his birth certificate. The state of Hawaii even allowed fact checking websites to photograph the original with the certificate number, the governor's signature and the official Hawaii seal that was a raised seal. If someone invented a time machine and brought you to the instance os Obama's birth in Hawaii, you still would be throwing up lies.
Tim, he showed it. End of story.
He showed it, it was done, then some of the crazies that started up all of the stories started up one that he wasn't really born in Hawaii (do you know how many people STILL think he's a Muslim?). The point people are trying to make about McCain is that he doesn't hold up to the (false) test they are throwing out there about needing to be born on US soil, so it wouldn't matter anyway – if born to a citizen, you are a citizen and could be president. But this itself is not some fallback position on our sitting president, just another chink in the armor of the specious birther claims that this is some weird coup from a Kenyan. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, and he proved it to everybody he needed to prove it to.
Only the deranged vote republican.
Wow a Republican that doesn't want to control all things and displays the ability to think.
Maybe it is just a trick to get her re-elected?
I would say her balls are to the flame, but since she is a woman. There is something else she needs from the feds. Oh yes, there are more Mexican Americans in Arizona now? Maybe she needs stimulus cash? Like the other Tea Nuts?
Gee um, what exactly is so controversial about showing the American people your BIRTH CERTIFICATE if you want to be our President?
Barack HUSSEIN Obama could very well be the biggest fraud of all time. I mean, why does he refuse to show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? What's he hiding? Does the BIRTH CERTIFICATE indicate he was born in Kenya? Does it say he is a Muslim?
why is BIRTH CERTIFICATE in all caps? Do you write whacky religious tracts or something?
The biggest fraud in America is YOU!
If your rant has any truth to it, you will immediately, show me your brain...
He HAS shown his birth certificate, you ding dong.
It is not Obama's choice to show his birth certificate. This is the way the laws in Hawaii work. Birthers need to get an education.
Your screen name – "Minuteman" pretty much says it all. As for Obama, he has produced his birth certificate, it is available to view any time on the Internet.
Not only that, multiple officials with the State of Hawaii have validated his live birth in their state.
awwww, who wants to be Rush? who's so cute...who's so good at playing the copy cat game...who's cute...awwww, cute lil tyke
What are you talking about Minuteman? The birth certificate has been shown - you can see the scanned images on the Internet.
You are a total and complete moron, unfortunately you probably have kids, the cycle continues.
He has provided his birth cert and it's been validate by numerous independant organizations, like Factcheck and PolitiFact, and the Hawaiian Gov (actually, two of them) have confirmed it's validity. You choose to disregard the facts making yourself look stupid.
Obama says he's a Christian. Your opinion, or anyone else's for that matter, doesn't matter. And even if he were a Muslim...who gives a crap about that? His religious affiliation has no bearing on his right to rule as our President.
Ummm.... He has shown his Birth Certificate, several times, and it's posted online...Now I know what you're going to say, anyone can post a birth certificate online, doesn't mean it's genuine.....How about the fact that every agency that has investigated this issue has concluded that he was a natural born citizen of the United States? Stop watching Faux News, Glenn Beck is bad for your brain, read a few newspapers, a couple of books, maybe look into some history books not written by conservative Christians. Hussein is a name, and if you automatically associate it with Saddam and Muslims you seriously have a problem. Christians have killed their fair share of innocents. The United States is not infallible.
Does your birth certificate show you were born an idiot? Does it show your mom was an alien? Does it show your dad was your uncle? Run along Cletus – your late for your trailer park patriots meeting down at the teapublican hall, er the bar
It's truly amazing how f!@king stupid you are.
Is he under some legal obligation to show it? Are you under any obligation to show yours or have you ever been? Maybe he's toying with you and enjoys watching you squirm. Or maybe he's got more important thins to worry about than the concerns of the fringe.
He has shown his birth certificate. Didn't you see it? I saw it.Looks just like mine. I had to show it when I ENLISTED IN 1966.
DID YOU?
to the all caps guy, he showed it. End of story.
If you don't know that the United States Government does a lot more than just check someone's birth certificate before they can even run for the office, much less actually be elected and sworn in as the President of the United States, then you need to go back to grade school and redo the fourth grade social studies classes.
who cares. Bush rigged the election the first time and now we have a President who isn't a natural born citizen. I don't see anything strange about this.
You write as if there's some sort of logical relationship between the two statements: as if one proves the other.
The next first lady will wear a burka.. just wait and see...
oops,
I made a mistake in the posting. It is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhkuunp8D8&feature=player_embeded
video not available. you suck x2.
I stole 18 cases of Bud Light. I sell cheap. $3 a six pack. Any takers?
Jan Brewer's stock has just gone up a bit.
Class move, governor.
She is only doing it to get herself more PR, she is really not that smart. This might make her popular with the middle since most of the crazies that voted for Kyle don;t have a candidate any longer - if nothing else, it gives Palin something to lash out at instead of Obama.
Golly, there just may be a glimmer of hope for this Governor yet...
A republican governor with brains, I am surprised. Now if you can convince the rest of the alcoholic republicans in government. Hey bonner a bit hungover eh? Maybe Vern will buy you a bottle of scotch.