Arizona governor vetoes presidential 'birther bill'
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed the so-called "birther bill" on Monday.
April 18th, 2011
10:37 PM ET

Arizona governor vetoes presidential 'birther bill'

Arizona's governor has vetoed a bill that would require President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they were born in the United States before their names could be placed on Arizona's ballots.

Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, said she could not "support designating one person as gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate."

Under the measure, if there were any dispute about whether a candidate had proved he or she had been born in the United States, Arizona's secretary of state would have the final say.

The Arizona "birther bill" got final approval by a vote of 40-16 last week in the state House. It now will not become law unless legislators vote to override Brewer's veto.

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  1. james johnson

    Hey vern, call me when the republicans gut s.s. And mediciare and make veterans get vouchers to go to the va hospital! Holla

    April 18, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • kanon

      But that's soshulism!

      April 18, 2011 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Muhammad Anwar

      Economy must be booming in Arizona, the law makers are not worried about creating jobs, instead they want to check birth certificates of presidential candidates, want proof of citizenship from brown people. Next time they will make a law that will require native indians (the real AMERICAN) to show proof of birth. That is one messed up State.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  2. Jason

    Yer an idiot, Vern.

    Racist? Maybe. Idiot? For sure.

    April 18, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dim Mak

    Too late now vern. Lol You going to build a time machine? The secret service investigates that stuff I believe. He's American get over it.

    April 18, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
  4. jay

    This continues to be the dumbest debate ever and those continuing to perpetuate this myth should be ashamed. They are catering to ignorance and proving nothing more than that they are unfit for office.

    April 18, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • JAW

      Well said, I didn't vote for him, but it has been discredited. Doesn't Arizona have bigger issues to deal with? Who the hell are they to step in and start challenging the presidential requirements, they are only one of fifty. so damn stupid! how about a damn border wall?

      April 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • bam

      don't forget wasting tons of $$$$ on on an insanely stupid subject... u know the $$$ we don't have

      April 18, 2011 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rennie

      Here's one for you. Rep Tom Graves borrowed 2.2 million bucks. Then the bank went bankrupt. Did it have stimulus money? Like the bank Eric Colder's wife's bank? She got over 3 million to prop her bank up. All these Tea Baggers (another name for NAZI?) have banks?Or connections to Banks? Wow. Lets see if I can borrow.......................I can't borrow enough to get blankets for homeless Vets. See you all at the Veterans hospital..............

      April 18, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • DavidnCA

      we should be looking into how many bankruptcies Donald "I'm a birther" Trump has had. How many investors did he bilk out of millions and millions and get off free? And he did this several times. Trump has NO room to point fingers at anyone. Why he isn't in jail is amazing.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
  5. Paul

    This is a shock, especially from a governor who has so far been on the side of the far right, ultra conservative, "tea bag" crowd.

    We a person who backs a "show your papers" law thinks this legislation is a bad enough idea to veto it, then you know it stinks more than road kill that's been sitting in the Arizona summer sun.

    April 18, 2011 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      it's AZ's own business how they handle illegal immigration. make sure your own house is in order before you go judging others.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • M22

      paul: "We a person who backs a "show your papers" law thinks this legislation"

      The fact that you're surprised shows you're either hyperpartisan or so shallow minded that you can't see any merit in your opponent's positions.

      That said, the law she signed was not a "show your papers" law, it purportedly follows Federal legislation and, crucially, requires police to have "probable cause" in order to ask for identification. Probable cause is a sliding scale and in most every situation a cop will be confronted with, there will be absolutely no probable cause to think a person is in the country illegally.

      Jogging? Nope.

      Driving? Nope.

      Jaywalking? Robbing a store? Murdering someone? Nope.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • pedro

      Karl Rove is getting through to the crazies that this isn't helping. They're driving the moderates who might vote Republican away with all of the crazy.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
  6. robD

    I wonder if AZ would have passed this law if McCain were elected president, he was in fact not born in the US. What is amusing to me is that the teabaggers that push this lie were behind McCain when he was running and said nothing about his elligibility to be president.

    April 18, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      RobD, McCain did show his birth certificate when asked for it. It wasn't a big deal because McCain didn't make a big deal of it, he simply showed the requested docs and ended the discussion. I'm not saying that Obama is an illegal president, I believe someone would have exposed that. But I think he's made himself look like an obstructionist jerk by not simply showing it and ending the story. He's cutting off his nose to spite his face, which isn't becoming of a sitting US president.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • moi

      McCain's parents were American, that is good enough for him to be considered natural born US citizen. That said, I didn't vote for him and would never vote for him.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jacks

      Actually McCain was not born in the US.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jacks

      [Moi] "McCain's parents were American..."

      If that was the requirement that would disqualify most if not all the US population.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • M22

      rob: "he was in fact not born in the US"

      He was born on a military base, which is considered U.S. soil. Much less, his parents were American citizens, and under Federal law you're an American citizen when your mother is, no matter where you're born.

      Nice try.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • amarjit

      Everyone is not born in aristocratic & educated families. Children who are born to parents in rags & rugged conditions are under different conditions, become victoms of social & critical analysis due to inherent weaknesses which cannot be concealed.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • D

      Actually, as comparable of a situation as this seems, it isn't. McCain was born on a military base in Panama and, technically, military bases count as 'US soil'. So, yes, he was born 'in the USA'. And, of course, the birth location is irrelevant because at least 1 of his parents was a citizen.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Simon

      M22- WRONG! Mcain was born in a Panama hospital that was annexed by the US 2 years after his birth.

      Nice try!

      April 18, 2011 at 11:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rennie

      Politicians is another word for HYPOCRITE A_HOLE money grubbing twinks. I really don't care if people call me names, I did my boot time. Wish they had kept the draft. I'm dying anyway. So will the politicians in time. We all will, me, Just a little sooner. Agent Orange was just a nasty tasting soda pop that caused death in slow motion.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Simon

      Tim, you are a shameless liar. Obama did show his birth certificate. The state of Hawaii even allowed fact checking websites to photograph the original with the certificate number, the governor's signature and the official Hawaii seal that was a raised seal. If someone invented a time machine and brought you to the instance os Obama's birth in Hawaii, you still would be throwing up lies.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • CW

      Tim, he showed it. End of story.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
    • pedro

      He showed it, it was done, then some of the crazies that started up all of the stories started up one that he wasn't really born in Hawaii (do you know how many people STILL think he's a Muslim?). The point people are trying to make about McCain is that he doesn't hold up to the (false) test they are throwing out there about needing to be born on US soil, so it wouldn't matter anyway – if born to a citizen, you are a citizen and could be president. But this itself is not some fallback position on our sitting president, just another chink in the armor of the specious birther claims that this is some weird coup from a Kenyan. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, and he proved it to everybody he needed to prove it to.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
    • NIXON IS THE ONE TO BLAME

      Only the deranged vote republican.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
  7. bam

    Wow a Republican that doesn't want to control all things and displays the ability to think.
    Maybe it is just a trick to get her re-elected?

    April 18, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rennie

      I would say her balls are to the flame, but since she is a woman. There is something else she needs from the feds. Oh yes, there are more Mexican Americans in Arizona now? Maybe she needs stimulus cash? Like the other Tea Nuts?

      April 19, 2011 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
  8. Minuteman4US

    Gee um, what exactly is so controversial about showing the American people your BIRTH CERTIFICATE if you want to be our President?

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama could very well be the biggest fraud of all time. I mean, why does he refuse to show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? What's he hiding? Does the BIRTH CERTIFICATE indicate he was born in Kenya? Does it say he is a Muslim?

    April 18, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      why is BIRTH CERTIFICATE in all caps? Do you write whacky religious tracts or something?

      April 18, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jean-Paul Sartre

      The biggest fraud in America is YOU!

      If your rant has any truth to it, you will immediately, show me your brain...

      April 18, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      He HAS shown his birth certificate, you ding dong.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ernest

      It is not Obama's choice to show his birth certificate. This is the way the laws in Hawaii work. Birthers need to get an education.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Your screen name – "Minuteman" pretty much says it all. As for Obama, he has produced his birth certificate, it is available to view any time on the Internet.

      Not only that, multiple officials with the State of Hawaii have validated his live birth in their state.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • chicagoanthro

      awwww, who wants to be Rush? who's so cute...who's so good at playing the copy cat game...who's cute...awwww, cute lil tyke

      April 18, 2011 at 11:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Inglourious

      What are you talking about Minuteman? The birth certificate has been shown - you can see the scanned images on the Internet.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve T

      You are a total and complete moron, unfortunately you probably have kids, the cycle continues.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • boatnmaniac

      He has provided his birth cert and it's been validate by numerous independant organizations, like Factcheck and PolitiFact, and the Hawaiian Gov (actually, two of them) have confirmed it's validity. You choose to disregard the facts making yourself look stupid.

      Obama says he's a Christian. Your opinion, or anyone else's for that matter, doesn't matter. And even if he were a Muslim...who gives a crap about that? His religious affiliation has no bearing on his right to rule as our President.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Curtis C.

      Ummm.... He has shown his Birth Certificate, several times, and it's posted online...Now I know what you're going to say, anyone can post a birth certificate online, doesn't mean it's genuine.....How about the fact that every agency that has investigated this issue has concluded that he was a natural born citizen of the United States? Stop watching Faux News, Glenn Beck is bad for your brain, read a few newspapers, a couple of books, maybe look into some history books not written by conservative Christians. Hussein is a name, and if you automatically associate it with Saddam and Muslims you seriously have a problem. Christians have killed their fair share of innocents. The United States is not infallible.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Arizona_Huey

      Does your birth certificate show you were born an idiot? Does it show your mom was an alien? Does it show your dad was your uncle? Run along Cletus – your late for your trailer park patriots meeting down at the teapublican hall, er the bar

      April 18, 2011 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Helena

      It's truly amazing how f!@king stupid you are.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • mabatemarco

      Is he under some legal obligation to show it? Are you under any obligation to show yours or have you ever been? Maybe he's toying with you and enjoys watching you squirm. Or maybe he's got more important thins to worry about than the concerns of the fringe.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rennie

      He has shown his birth certificate. Didn't you see it? I saw it.Looks just like mine. I had to show it when I ENLISTED IN 1966.
      DID YOU?

      April 18, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • CW

      to the all caps guy, he showed it. End of story.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • 66Biker

      If you don't know that the United States Government does a lot more than just check someone's birth certificate before they can even run for the office, much less actually be elected and sworn in as the President of the United States, then you need to go back to grade school and redo the fourth grade social studies classes.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
  9. theincognito

    who cares. Bush rigged the election the first time and now we have a President who isn't a natural born citizen. I don't see anything strange about this.

    April 18, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Walt

      You write as if there's some sort of logical relationship between the two statements: as if one proves the other.

      April 19, 2011 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • really

      The next first lady will wear a burka.. just wait and see...

      April 19, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
  10. db

    oops,
    I made a mistake in the posting. It is:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhkuunp8D8&feature=player_embeded

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      video not available. you suck x2.

      April 18, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
  11. JAW

    I stole 18 cases of Bud Light. I sell cheap. $3 a six pack. Any takers?

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Phil

    Jan Brewer's stock has just gone up a bit.

    Class move, governor.

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
  13. RC

    She is only doing it to get herself more PR, she is really not that smart. This might make her popular with the middle since most of the crazies that voted for Kyle don;t have a candidate any longer - if nothing else, it gives Palin something to lash out at instead of Obama.

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jean-Paul Sartre

    Golly, there just may be a glimmer of hope for this Governor yet...

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
  15. nofreeloaders

    A republican governor with brains, I am surprised. Now if you can convince the rest of the alcoholic republicans in government. Hey bonner a bit hungover eh? Maybe Vern will buy you a bottle of scotch.

    April 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
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