Arizona's governor has vetoed a bill that would require President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they were born in the United States before their names could be placed on Arizona's ballots.
Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, said she could not "support designating one person as gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate."
Under the measure, if there were any dispute about whether a candidate had proved he or she had been born in the United States, Arizona's secretary of state would have the final say.
The Arizona "birther bill" got final approval by a vote of 40-16 last week in the state House. It now will not become law unless legislators vote to override Brewer's veto.
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I can't wait to end my relationship with my fellow man. Shyt stinks!
There is overwhelming evidence that Obama is a United States citizen. I guess it makes sense that he draws such intense criticism being the first minority president in such a hyper polictical society. Since he once belonged to a radical Christian church and is now possibly Muslim with that weird non common Barrack name instead of John or Bob. Maybe if he went by Barry Obama this wouldn't be news. My only question is where is Trumps wig made and how is it affecting his brain?
The fact that Obama had – and still has – a lot of Chicago connections raises a lot of eyebrows. In general, the democratic political machine in Chicago is widely regarded as exceptionally corrupt. All politicians have connections with dubious characters. Obama's dubious connections are arguably greater in number, and a more dubious than the average. This - and not his name or skin color - make him seem like someone not in the mainstream. It is possible to hold this view without being racist, and – yes – Bush was a worse president.
Vern the word is needs, not need, learn to use correct english! Si Senor!
There is a way to understand the birther's point-of-view. A lot of people really do get the vibe from Obama that he doesn't represent core American values. It is possible to have this impression without being racist. It is possible to think of Obama as someone who is not taking us down the right path without being racist. Obama is indeed taking us down a path that is very arguably not the best path. Sure, Bush also took us down a horrible path – no argument there. In many ways Obama does not seem to have a US-centric view of the world. It is possible to think this without being racist. When he called the police "stupid" he was not only incorrect, but he was really, really offensive. His healthcare plan was not, and is not to this day, popular. His flaccid handling of Libya seems non-traditional. This, and more, explain why some people think of Obama as someone who is not a born-and-bred American. I think he was indeed born in Hawaii. He is, though, not taking us down a path that seems aligned with American values. Again.... it is possible to think this without being racist, and – yes – Bush was a much worse president.
Ah yes, and phrases like 'core US vaules' and 'non-traditional' could all be seen be seen as codewords that mean 'non-white'. Bonus points for listing false 'facts' too.
So we've degenerated to the point where a term like "core values" has become debate-able. Your implication is that "core values" cannot span race or ethnic lines. My guess is you're fine with "core African American" values and "core Hispanic values." You must be a self-loathing white person or a person of color who doesn't like white people. Which is it?
So because you think the President does business in a way that another american might not do business that makes him un-american. That's not racism....that's prejudice. YOU formed an opinion based on the way the Prez does his job BEFORE (Pre) you actually get to know him personally (won't happen but this is just for arguments sake). And that opinion became a JUDGEment when you ASSumed that made him un-american. Just saying.
BigGameJames: You're looking for a debate where none exists. Is it not possible to think of Obama as someone who does not represent the core values of a very large segment of the population? Or is this racist or prejudicial? I guess you could indeed say I'm prejudiced against anyone who does not represent my views. Guess what... so are you. Maybe stop with the derisive labels for a while, and have an adult conversation?
My guess: Rove thinks Trump is a liberal in gop clothing and will flip on them. As the birther gig is the Donald's gateway to tea baggers, the gop is yanking the rug out of it to stop Trump. Jan is complying with the party dictate to stamp out the birther issue.
OMMMGG Im so tired of people saying that obama wasnt born here!! THE LAW REQUIRES FOR THE PRESIDENT TO BORN IN THE UNITED STATES!!!! Obviously people would have to investigate that to make sure he's not some sort of spy or anything!
Vern – he took the oath of office. He is the President of the United States. His birth certificate was reviewed as part of his candidacy, and he provided the same information as any other candidate. He is an American citizen by birth. His mother was an American citizen by birth. He was born in the United States.
And besides – even if he did show his long form certificate, you birthers would claim it was a fake.
Got this from one of many sites regarding John McCain and his biography:
Formative years and education
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).[2] At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control
Add more money to the 2 million that Obama has spent to keep his BIRTH CERTIFICATE secret! She was either threatened or paid off!
We just didn't want to see Sharpton's ugly A$$ again protesting and crying up and down our streets. We figure that like barely dodging a bullet. She had to veto.
Aaaaaand the $2M figure is a complete lie. His campaign has spent that money dealing with post-campaign legal issues in total, not expressly in regards to the BC. This is completely normal! McCain's campaign has spent $1.2M since the campaign for the same purposes. But thank you for recycling the usual Palin/Rush/Beck nonsense.
Another teabirther who makes up their truth as they go along. Obama hasn't paid to hide or hidden anything about his birth. He obtained a certified copy of his birth certificate like everyone else does in Hawaii and presented it to the proper authorities. The State of Hawaii certified the copy of his birth certificate as a true copy of the original which is all anyone gets from any state. The states hold on to the original. In Hawaii, access to vital records (including birth certificates) is severely restricted by state statute (HRS §338-18). As a result, the State of Hawaii has refused access to the original of the President's birth certificate, as they routinely refuse access for countless people born in Hawaii.
Why not investigate why Bush wasn't court-martialed for being AWOL when he was supposed to be serving our nation in Alabama? There's not one person who can verify he was there. He never would have been president if he was guilty. Sure looks like some people are very selective on who they investigate.
Maybe because of his executive order? #13233
I oppose most of what Obama has done the past 2 years.
I am not a racist, and I have been well educated. I don't care about Obama's birth certificate – realistically, even if he wasn't born in this country, that will not change his presidency. His administration – just like any other administration – would never let that stop him from staying our president. What bothers me are the few liberals out there that have decided they would vote for Obama "no matter what" in 2012. Really? No matter what?
What if he switched parties? What if he declared himself a communist? What if he tried to become a king? There are an infinite number of reasons that you should think about before you vote for anyone, but if you are going to vote again for him "no matter what" then that's the definition of a racist to me, since there's no other reason why you are voting for him. (And no, I would never automatically vote for the same person like that, regardless of party/beliefs).
@welcome to reality ... "no matter what" is a figure of speech ... not to be taken LITERALLY. If Obama decided to make himself King, I'd take up arms ... and I'm about as liberal as anyone can get ... your reality ain't so real! Right now, the possible GOP contenders are weak or just plain nuts – but I bet most GOPers will vote for them no matter what ...
@ welcome to reality ... "no matter what" is a figure of speech not to be taken LITERALLY. If Obama declared himself King, I'd take up arms, and I voted for him and will do so again. The current crop of GOP contenders are weak or just plain nuts, but, most party loyalists will vote for them too ... welcome to real reality. The electorate in the middle that sways between Dem and GOP is relatively small!!
You should say if he became socialist, not communist. Communism in its purest form would be the best government. Everyone would work at what they do best, and no one would have anything more than anyone else, we would all be equal, no upper or lower class. Everyone would work for the betterment of all. Also what does it matter where he was born? We have a lot of bigger problems to worry about.
Can't wait for Donald Trump to become the next President and tell Obama, 'You're fired!' The TRUMP card will always beat the RACE card!
LOL! What a comedian! Trump has about as much chance as Palin does.
Vern – others may shy away from calling you a stupid racist and a dishonor to all the veterans who have sacrificed to give you the freedom to use what few brains God gave you, but I won't. This "issue" of whether a black person can be a citizen was settled with the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments. The 3/5ths Clause and Dred Scott are no longer the law of the land. Sorry. You were born about, I'd say with a name like "Vern," about 90 years too late.
I just want to know why is it people always throw out the race card. Just because people don't like a person,their policies, or belive what they say don't mean it has anything to do with a persons race. If as common people we have to show a birth certificate at times,why shouldn't a elected official have to abide by the same stipulatons.
Well when the 40 or so guys before you are all one color and nobody ever has a problem or questions with their birth records YOU don't think its a problem when the first black guy is asked to provide his on a daily basis? If your answer is no the Prez's politics isn't the problem. It's your ignorance.
@stymie: Thank you for lumping all of us into one general category for what makes us "American". Many Americans including myself don't think we need to impose a world where America is the center. I don't mind this being the land of opportunity or having the best military and the largest economy, but being the boss means you have to be given every stupid thing to deal with by everyone else. We don't need to saber rattle or drop bombs on everyone in order to secure America's place as the leader. We should lead by example not one liner slogans. Speak softly but carry a big stick. We've drifted past that into a meddling role.
Thought you were going to sleep DIM MAK
You couldn't be a more vivid caricature if you tried. I get it... espousing "american" values is now something we should be ashamed of. Having ideals, in your world, makes one somehow aggressive. I've said enough. You need to go away and look for a moral compass, because I think yours got lost a long time ago.