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Report: China stealth fighter makes second test flight
China has had a second test flight of its J-20 stealth fighter jet, according to a report from the government-owned newspaper Global Times.
Under the headline "Mystery jet 'flies' again," the paper cited witness accounts that the jet flew Sunday in Chengdu as part of celebrations of the 60th anniversary of China's aviation industry.
The flight lasted almost an hour and a half, an unnamed witness told Global Times.
"The J-20 made several passes and waggled its wings (rolling the plane first to one side then to the other) to salute the crowd near the airfield," Global Times quotes the witness as saying.
The J-20 "has been touted as a potential challenger to the U.S. Air Force's F-22 Raptor, the world's only fifth-generation fighter jet," Global Times said.
The J-20 made its first flight in January as U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was visiting China.
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Let me know when people actually can't see it and its flying a mach+ speeds with a fully loaded and ready fire control system.
People can see the F-22; it is invisible to RADAR, not to people. Only the Klingons have cloaking devices.
You clearly didnt read his whole post. Said lets see it flying mach+ and firing weapons. Of course you can see it with your eye.
That's only semi-true; composite "metamaterials" *have* produced actual invisibility to narrow bands of E-M radiation, such as microwave and visible light, although NOT at the same time yet. As an additional bonus, most approaches also don't use any power source for the effect.
You can find a lot more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial
The Romulans have cloaking technology as well Michael.
While China is just getting around to creating it's first stealth fighter jet...the USA is on the verge (<5yrs) of deploying pilot-less stealth fighters that autonomously take-off and land on air craft carriers...
Talk about innovation!
Also i believe the Romulans lent a cloaking device to Star Fleet in exchange for information on the Dominion
@Bozobub:
Your facts are in error. The metamaterial approach to cloaking has only been demonstrated to be possible in the visible light portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. It has yet to be achieved in the lab, much less in a functioning vehicle.
@Michael – Actually the Romulans have a cloaking device too, and even Kirk had one for a while, and Ryker on that secret mission where the ship he served on reanimated into an asteroid, and let's not forget the future Ryker from "All Good Things."
If Harry Potter were to ride inside of this with the cloak of invisibility, could he make a spell to make the whole aircraft invisible?
That thing will crash by the third time just like all the sub-standard products made in china.
Yet we buy everything chinese from the TVs to IPADs.
Horsefeathers. Some things made in China are junk, some are high quality. Some of the most reliable machine tools in my shop were made in China. I can't get a reliable U.S.-built CNC mill for blood or money.
As long as people stick with this jingoistic "made in China means junk" nonsense, China is going to continue to crush U.S. Industry. There's plenty of stuff made by U.S. companies that is junk. "Made in China" doesn't mean "junk" any more than "Made in USA" means "high quality."
It all comes down to what you are willing to pay. If you pay for junk, you get it. If you pay for quality, you get it.
Spot-on, toolman. Anyone painting the world with only black and white misses the colorful reality in the chasm between those extremes.
get real find me one product that is made in the USA that is 100% made here in the USA.....trust me you won't find a THING.
Carrying a 1 of more megaton warhead it only needs to fly ONCE...to the target.
Yea i think your right TJ and 1 other point ,no matter how good a fighter jet is it is only as god as the pilot behind the controls ,and we have the very best pilots in the world.
Corn flakes are probably 100% made in the USA. And beef jerky.
You could be right. Maybe the parts are knocks-offs or are not to spec. Just look around your house? Had a coat made in China and it fell apart in TWO years. The one I bought 15 years ago (made in US) is still going although it shows some wear.
It's going to be at Walmart for $ 999 in time for chirstmas . Just letting u guys know I already started saving for it. YAY ME
The US still is the number 1 manufacturing country in the world. Followed closely by China. Everyone else pales in comparison to the top two though.
I wonder how many parts of our own military planes come from China?
China has enough people to build and man planes that they could likely put more planes in the sky than the US could even produce means to shoot down. Does it matter whether these Chinese stealth planes are junk or not when they likely could even produce and man simple bamboo framed P-40's in sheer numbers great enough to be a credible threat? 200 to 1 odds? They could cover this bet.
With the population of China vs. America, short of nukes, China doesn't have to play superiority.
Exposer to lead-based paint in the interior will kill the pilots.
One problem. It still says "Made in China" on the back. Remember these are the people that use clips from "Top Gun" to promote their air force's might. The thing is junk, I assure you.
Thank you for your assurance. I am glad that you were able to inspect the J-20 closely enough to read the factory label on the backside, and thankful that you have acquired an insider perspective of the Chinese defense industry in your years of service as an undercover agent posing as a Chinese aerospace engineer. Congratulations on your service and your safe return to our country.
Is this the same aircraft that China released "video footage" of which involved a clip from top gun?
Rah Rah Rah! USA rules! China sucks!
Seriously: Trash talking other countries won't do anything to improve America's place in the world. The stakes are much higher than an athletic event, and I'm afraid the only way to ensure America's continued greatness and leadership is a lot of hard work and sacrifice. I wish I had more confidence in our country's ability to do this.
Absolutely. Anybody can make junk, anybody can make quality. It doesn't matter where it's made, what matters is HOW it's made.
Have you ever considered that they are making junks for us to buy and top quality goods for themselves?
I, also, wonder where we Americans lost our work ethic (in general). We tend to talk a good game of excellent production and high quality product. However, I have witnessed otherwise. Somewhere during the past 30 years we lost our work integrity.
Does that include American CARS?
Wal-Mart is 100 percent china products... Dont shop at Wal-Mart!
Amen Joe!! And if more people would quit buying anything that is not made here it would force big business to bring it back home where our jobs belong. We would not be in the mess we are in right now if we were producing products here. People would be working and able to buy homes, cars and save some money. We would have money to fix bridges and build new roads and hospitals. We could become a great nation again.
Yeah, deny American employees working at Walmart their ability to make a paycheck. Screw the laws of economics, mindless rhetorical patriotism all the way.
everything is made from china NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING is made in the USA
Not so, checkitout, we still make doorknobs and fishing lures (I know, shocking). We've brought this on ourselves. We've said through our collective buying decisions that we want cheap stuff, and companies have more than happily obliged. And do you really want to pay 2-3x as much for everything? I'm all for Made in America, but I would probably buy a lot less stuff if there were that big a premium.
Americans better start demanding our jobs be brought back home and quit buying all that junk from China. We are the ones who are making it possible for the Chinese to arm themselves with new planes, subs, missiles and all kind of military equipment that can one day be used against us. My Grandmother told me when I was in grade school and I am 61, the United States and Russia would have to join forces to fight the chinese because they would become so big and powerful. I guess she was right. So when they bring their military at us, we have no one to blame but ourselves because it is our money that has made this all possible.
The problem is in order to bring the jobs back home we need to accept much lower wages or much higher prices for the products we buy. Neither of which is not on the cards really.
F-22 anyone? Ra Ra Ra Ra Rip Off
Yeah, when you have a multi-billion dollar program and you kill it after less than 200 planes, what do you think that makes the cost per plane? F-15's and F-18's are "cheap" because the programs have been around for decades.
They don't need to challenge the F-22. We quit making them. Since the Commies are our best buddies, there is no longer any need. The Pentagon wants to kill the F-35 too. F-15's and F-18's forever, baby! That's all we need, right? 1970's and 80's tech rules!
I know the price tag of the F-22 is high, but I would rather have those than the F-35.
The shadows cast on the building and the jet plane are incongruous. The light cast on the background buiding appears from the front; whereas the light on the jet appears from the back and from the top. There is no shadow of the plane on the grass field. The foreground grass field appears incongruent with the rest of the scene. Well... maybe it's just me...too much beer...
I bet that thing is as stealth as a 747. Look at the body design alone, that isnt a very stealth design at all.
So, where did you get your MS in Aerospace Engineering?
It doesn't take an engineer to notice the body design flaws. Read up on what makes a jet fighter stealth. It isn't just the material its built out off. Shape has a huge play in it. Notice how the F-117 has no curves to it. It is deigned that way for a reason.
Obviously, you've never looked at an F-22
@EE The F-22 is not a full stealth fighter. It implements stealth technology, but it was not designed to be completely invisable to radar like the F-117.
@Rico:
The F-117 is not "completely invisable [sic]" to radar either. No aircraft, at this point, is. The F-117 has a radar cross-section of approximately ¼ sq ft.
It's time to wake up America. We have been sending manufacturing, engineering, and science know how to China for years. Go to your local university and visit the physics grad classes sometime. This thing is probably real, and it will be within my lifetime. Lockheed has no better control of all of their data then your bank, and we all know about that aspect.
Soon to be available at Walmart with an extra-charge warranty option worth twice as much as the plane.
Well NO DUH dude... when our colleges sell out to the highest bidder and will train anyone in physics to aerodynamics to any foreigner in the country... where do you think they take all those ideas and training to? .. That's right, back to their own country. Are you REALLY that dumb? .. REALLY? America was SOLD OUT by greedy people.
And who sold out america?....Americans!...you are all the same...crying for people who steals your jobs...cuz you want to make $20.00/hr to pick fruit....lazy bums!
you really think all foreign grad students are just hear to learn and take it back to their country? Have you forgotten that they could just get a job here, get paid WAY more money, and live in a free country? Sure some of them go back, and maybe in order to better their country, but a good many stay here.