Overheard on CNN.com: Prop 8, Gitmo docs and America’s decline
April 26th, 2011
05:34 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Prop 8, Gitmo docs and America’s decline

Comment of the day: "At the end of the day this should show us what those who oppose gay marriage really are concerned about: writing discrimination into the law. They are not concerned about marriage at all. They are simply trying to write laws that allow them to discriminate against a specific segment of society. End of story." -10001NYC

Disclose before you impose

Earlier this month, former Judge Vaughan Walker, who blocked enforcement of Proposition 8, confirmed his involvement in a long-term, same-sex relationship. Now, supporters of Proposition 8 are asking that the judge's injunction barring the measure's enforcement be thrown out because they believe he should have disclosed the information before his ruling.

Most CNN.com readers said those who want the injunction thrown out are bigoted, hypocritical and short-sighted.

Artlicious "If their real intent was to 'protect marriage,' they should argue that a straight married judge be disqualified since he would conceivably have an interest in protecting his own marriage. The argument is simply ridiculous on its face." JamesGP said, "A heterosexual judge is then presumed to be biased against the case, and therefore should also recuse themselves. According to this logic we need an asexual hermaphrodite to decide this case." CenterLeft1 said, "Well, that means an Evangelical Christian can't rule on say, school prayer. Conflict of interest...fair is fair." animaguskatt said, "Wow, so only straight people get to decide the fate of gays?"

But some readers agreed with those who support the request:

bobbynakka said, "There is a clear conflict of interest here and if you don't see it then you lack common sense."briancmyers said, "There's significant risk of bias so the ruling should be tossed." nyma11 said, "I perfectly understand, A judge gave himself the right to marry. He created a law for his own self-serving purposes."

leelanau said, “Does this mean a white judge can’t rule on a case involving a white defendant? No.....it means that an activist judge made a ridiculous, over-reaching activist ruling not based in the law or constitutionality. Why can't the proponents of gay marriage accept the fact that the people have spoken?"

But greysky67 said simply, "The government needs to get out of the marriage business."

Gitmo documents leaked

WikiLeaks strikes again. Nearly 800 classified U.S. military documents reveal details about the alleged terrorist activities of al Qaeda operatives captured and housed at the U.S. Navy's detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The findings have drawn renewed criticism of the U.S. base and prompted the ACLU to call for a judicial review of the cases and.

allmosttoast said, “IMO the most enlightening part of this WikiLeaks was that there was no relationship between the “risk level’ of a detainee, and whether or not he was released. It would seem that geo-political considerations were the primary motivation to release, or keep, a detainee. That speaks volumes about the U.S. government.”

marcusjophus said, “I'm a former guard from GTMO. GTMO was and still is a dog and pony show, constructed by the Bush Admin to point to and say to Americans ‘Look at how productive the GWOT is – we've caught so many terrorists.’ The problem is that the CIA and military cast such a wide net, and locals and corrupt Middle Eastern politicians used the opportunity to get rid of rivals or some other perceived threat. That's why hundreds of detainees were not terrorists. JTF-GTMO is a shameful mark on America that we will never wash away, and the mark is shared by western governments and Islamophobic Americans who refuse to offer asylum to men who are imprisoned without trial. Try them in civilian court. If the evidence against them is insufficient, justice is served.”

6pt02x10to23 said, “Whoever provides this material to WikiLeaks should be tried for treason and placed in a cell at Gitmo.” RAM05 responded, “George Bush and Dick Cheney should be in a cell at Gitmo. The guy who leaked the truth to the public should be given a mansion, a few sports cars, and paid an annuity for being morally correct and brave in the face of evil.

gotogirl3 said, “The unfortunate reality is some extremist somewhere will use this as a excuse to harm innocents. WikiLeaks puts thousands in danger with their info...from the common tourist to our military.

PhilUranus said, “Assange for President.” And Frank456 responded, “He's a nut, so let him join the GOP parade of candidates.”

Is the end of U.S. dominance nearing?

Jack Cafferty, on his Cafferty File blog, addressed Brett Arends' MarketWatch column about the International Monetary Fund projecting that China's economy will overtake the U.S. economy in 2016; the change will, according to Arends, become "The moment when the 'Age of America' will end." And if the IMF is right, whoever wins the presidency in 2012 will be the last U.S. president to preside over the world's largest economy.

Jack’s question to CNN.com readers was: What does it mean that China's economy could surpass the U.S. economy in five years?” And here are some of their responses:

Joe, Binghamton, NY said, “Jack, it means our US political representatives, corporations, and other narcissistic leaders have sold our economy all in favor of personal profit.”

Balboa from Huntsville, Alabama said, “It means that America is not working together. It means Congress is not agreeing with each other to put the American people first. It means that they are not following what Abraham Lincoln said when he said ‘A house divided against itself cannot stand.’ I personally think that he was talking about Congress not being one.

Ed in Harrisburg said, "Jack, what this means is pure and simple... Democrats and Republicans have enacted policies contrary to the best long term interest of the American people and the American people have enabled them by spending more than they earn. There's no big mystery here."

David, Las Vegas said, “Well Jack, it means they're doing a great job with our outsourced jobs and interest on our growing debt to them. It won't take five years.”

But Conor in Chicago said, “It doesn't mean anything because it isn't true. It's an invalid premise. A full fourth of the world’s economy is the United States. China isn't going to surpass that with 300 Million people living like the American poor and 800 million people living like it's Medival times. China being a unified country much less having an economy larger than the U.S. is doubtful by 2016."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (128 Responses)
  1. Kyle

    I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. However, they are humans, they are Americans etc. They deserve the same rights straights get, no matter what.

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