Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?
May 4th, 2011
05:44 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?

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I'm voting for Obama in 2012. PERIOD! -Clint4CNN

‘Obama got Osama’ won’t win in 2012

LZ Granderson, a weekly CNN.com columnist and a senior writer and columnist for ESPN The Magazine, weighed in on how killing Osama bin Laden won’t seal the deal for U.S. President Barack Obama at the polls next year. He says that, among other things, Americans are more concerned about unemployment and gas prices, and he and points to a CNN poll after bin Laden's death that shows Obama's ratings have improved by only 1 percentage point.

So what do CNN.com readers think about Obama's chances now that bin Laden is dead?

dualaction said, " 'I swear if Obama turned water into wine his critics would accuse him of being an alcoholic.’ So sad and true.” BrainHertz said, “For sure 'Obama got Osama' is certainly not going to sway committed Republicans to change their vote in 2012. But something important did just happen: Republicans no longer have a 'soft on terrorism' stick to beat Obama with in 2012 which they would otherwise be using to try to swing independents." misterbig said, "Obama only took a couple of years to do what Bush couldn't do for seven years. The GOP can try to minimize his accomplishment, but it just makes them look like even bigger losers."

Granderson may not have addressed the subject directly in his column, but many CNN.com readers wondered about a viable Republican alternative. TGD783 said, "Obama didn't need to catch Osama to win 2012... the GOP doesn't have a serious candidate, Obama will win by default." BrodiMAN said, "In order for the Republicans to win in 2012, they first need a horse in the race. But, so far, all they've shown us is a bunch of mules and donkeys." Pearlene said, "If not Obama then who? Sarah Palin? Michelle Beckman? (sic) Donald Trump? Do you think they can do better?" But dnel responded, "Are you deaf, blind and stupid? Ron Paul that's who. Ron Paul will pull the troops spend less money on military while keeping the defense of the US strong. The dollar will recover the economy will recover. Anyone else is a joke."

ffmills said, "We have an honest and decent President with very good ideas who is supported on all sides by the brightest minds. I wish America would just appreciate what we have. There is NO short-term cure for America's economic problems and anyone who believes otherwise is being cheated by the vacuous promises of politicians who simply will find it impossible to deliver. If we would just relax for a while and give our President our support he will steer our nation back onto a road to prosperity."


Bush declines Ground Zero offer

On Thursday, President Obama will visit "ground zero" in New York City to mark the death of Osama bin Laden and visit with families who lost loved ones during the attacks on 9/11 – and he extended an invitation to President George W. Bush to join him. The former president declined, citing a desire to remain out of the spotlight since leaving office. Most CNN.com readers said they thought Bush had other reasons for skipping the event, while others applauded him for stepping aside.

R.L. said, “As much as I dislike GW, I think he should go to the World Trade Center on Thursday. He was President when this started and as much as I dislike the way he handled things, he was there for the victims' families and the first responders when they needed someone to lean on." Rudy NYC said, “President Bush seems to be getting wiser with age. Staying out of the political spotlight immediately after leaving office has been a long standing tradition for ex-Presidents." Pazke said, "There were so many people involved at every level that all deserve credit for bringing down bin Laden." Rsprings said, "Bush is a classy guy. He does deserve credit for setting up the apparatus that finally led the US to Bin Laden. The US will be relentless in its efforts to stop terrorists." Don said, "I can't believe I'm going to say this but Bush is right. We should keep this low profile."

But Tam said, "Bush has nothing to be proud of. Being there would remind everyone of his terms." Johnson said, "Did you expect anything different? If Obama was Republican he would be there." Ron said, "What a loser. Since he can't take credit for killing Been Lousy, he won't go to ground zero with the President who did. Bush will show up later....probably trying to promote his book again." Dominican mama 4 Obama said, "Imagine how stupid he would look standing at Ground Zero accepting part of the glory when his statements dismissing the importance of Osama have been played and replayed in the news since Sunday?" Steve (the real one) in Arizona said, "I am not surprised. Going back to Ground Zero would remind the world that it was during HIS presidency that 9/11 happened. It will remind the world of the useless and senseless war he started in Iraq that accomplished nothing. But most of all, he would be sharing the stage with the man who finally killed bin Laden." Jilli said, "Perhaps Mr. Bush finally found his sense of shame."

White House not releasing photos of bin Laden

The White House announced Wednesday afternoon that it will not release photos of Osama bin Laden's body. Most readers said they deserved to view the photos, while others claimed they wouldn't believe it until they saw the pictures. And some readers applauded the president's decision.

Copperbug said, "Thank you, President Obama, for showing your grace, maturity and respect. There is no reason to feed the morbid curiosity of others at the expense of basic decency." kevinlo said, "If the photo is unrecognizable what good would it do? Then we'd be having the discussion about the photo being a fake. Good decision."

But Inst7 said, "We can view footage of a journalist getting beheaded, Sadaam Hussein being hung, U.S. troops getting blown up, innocent people plummeting to their death on 9/11...but we can't see Bin Laden dead?" jman33 said, "We had no problem releasing the death pictures of Saddam and his sons but now all of a sudden there's a problem? It really shouldn't be any surprise that this president loves keeping things away from the public. It took him 4 years just to release his long form birth certificate, and he's still keeping his college records sealed." Countrycook said, "We the people want proof. When do we want it? Now." skytag mockingly said, "People need to see those pictures; people deserve to see those pictures; people have a right to see those pictures — all wrong. Some people want to see those pictures. Be honest. Just say you want to see them if you want to see them."

SgtUSArmy said, "And ... let the conspiracies begin!" briant7189 complied: "Maybe it's because Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter is now claiming that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 from Marfan Syndrome and is willing to testify under perjury before a court?" JohnQPublik said, "I bet the picture(s) make it to the internet in less than week, regardless of this lame attempt to contain them." PacificRain said, "Obama will release the photos right before elections. The photo has to be of some use, at least this time to get votes from the gullible."

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soundoff (169 Responses)
  1. Jester

    Been around too long to argue with ones that are blind and can't see where this country is going. Pray he won't get re-elected. I can't afford to keep paying lazy, unmotivated obama-bots to sit and complain half of the 50k i make isn't moving into thier account fast enough

    May 4, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • JesterPlease

      If you're paying 50% in taxes, you're doing taxes wrong, or you are very bad at math.

      May 4, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • dave

      It may be bad, but it's certainly no where near as bad as it would be if we had 4 more years of Republican economic ruin.

      May 4, 2011 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jester

      Nope, not doing them wrong. Fed, state, local, property, auto, gas, utility, sales, ect. Add it up yourself

      May 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • parkmore

      I agree. He did not do anything positive, just bla bla bla

      May 4, 2011 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve in Denver

      Jester (what an approriate posting name): Maybe a short history and economics lesson is in order. Reagan and Bush II both increased spending by record amounts. Reagan cut taxes his first year, but then increased them every year therafter. Bush cut taxes twice. Both administrations, set numerous new deficit records. Bush I and Clinton raised taxes, did not as drastically increase spending, leading to the most prosperous time in recent history, and a surplus to boot. Who was better off in the 1980s and 2000s than they were in the 90s? A few billionaires, that is it.

      And, Obama cut your taxes.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Jester

      No Steve, that is where you are wrong. He so wanted to raise taxes. Had dreams about raising them. He didn't cut them at all. He left them where Bush 2 had them. There is a difference

      May 5, 2011 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  2. Tarek Hamzi

    Hi Kevin. I'm gay. Don't knock it till you have tryed it

    May 4, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Linari

    Scott Stevens, you are hands down the worst person to ever look at a calendar. It's 2011, dolt.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
  4. bob

    When America falls to her knees, the rich will survive and the poor will do anything to try and survive. Maybe they will become extinct. GET A JOB.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Linari

    The conservatives think the worst of any sitting President if he isn't a Republican.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • WillowTree

      Why do you lie so much? Linari, you are such a pathetic loser even Forrest Gump points and laughs at you.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Lisa loo 22

      You are so right Linari. One has to pray for the souls of these klan loving tea baggers. They hate facts, they love to listen to liars, yet they probably go to church every Sunday to pray for their Mercedes. Jesus was all about the down and out, I never heard him say let's screw the poor. Jesus says about taxes give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's. Rush was the first to issue the battle cry he wants Obama to fail. Republicans are the party of no because they want this president to fail. Hopefully the middle is bigger than the crazy right!

      May 5, 2011 at 4:43 am | Report abuse |
  6. Scott

    Well– to begin - make no mistake– Our illustrius President did not, and cannot take credit for, the death of that murderous waste of human flesh– THAT credit would go to our MILITARY and the special ops folks– This has been an effort LONG in the making! That being said if you are planning to vote for the man who has done nothing more for this country than run our finances into the ground, similar to my ex-wife- then you are making an IGNORANT decision. Give credit where it is due and hold responsible those who have responsibility to take!!!

    May 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      I see, so do you give Bush credit for Saddam then?

      May 5, 2011 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  7. Charles

    Anyone who thinks I dislike Obama because of his race is nothing more than a racist themselves and are using race to promote their own agenda. I think Obama is a 1 term president. He makes Jimmy Carter look like a genius. I thought he would bring change but he hasn't. He pushed through "Obama Care" which is going to cost Billions over the next 10 years. I am a Professional Truck Driver WITH a college education. I continue to see fuel prices go up. Which in turn causes the prices of everything we buy to go up. That is everything from the food we eat to the clothes we wear. And all because the so called "Environmentalists" want to push through their agenda. I don't have a problem with saving the Environment but let's do it in a manner that we can still afford to live. At the rate we are going no one is going to be able to buy food mush less anything else. So as to why I DON'T support President Obama? He may be well educated in law and politics but he doesn't know a thing about business. As far as getting Bin Laden, he chastised and criticized President Bush for implementing the policies that helped to lead our troops to accomplish the task that they did on May1. All President Obama did was sign a piece of paper giving his permission to carry out the mission.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Charles, the president dida lot more than sign a piece of paper authorizing killing Bin Laden. The President made a dificult and risky decision that would have ended his chances of reelection if it failed. He put his job on the line to get Bin Laden and that took guts and determination. I have been in combat and I know what leadership is. The president has shown great courage and leadership in his actions to kill Bin Laden. I am very proud of my fellow military comrades who killed Bin Laden and of President Obama.

      May 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  8. marleen

    I have never been more proud of President Obama's eloquent word choices than the simply put, "This is not who we are." At least those of us that understand the depths of that statement know that we need not display a gruesome corpse, riddled with the reminders of what one man has had to do to another in order to save the lives of many more. It is my hope that one day the US will be able to stop such men without the use of violence altogether. Until that time, however, I accept the fact that such men must be stopped. I am reminded every time I watch a Holocaust film and so wish Hitler had met a similar fate, in his early years! And Alan D., by the way, it is clear that you must have no relatives that could be serving in harms' way as a result of possible retaliation, since you find NO reasons relevant enough to prevent the pictures from being shown. For those of us with both hearts and minds, saving lives IS a worthy cause.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Don

    I find it interesting, conservative pudits were blaming President for the falling stock market in January 2008 and said it was due to a lack of confidence in the President. Now the stock market is at an almost all time high and I do not hear any conservative pundits giving the President any credit for stabliizing our economy and leading the nation out of the financial disaster he inherited from the previous administration. The economy is once agin growing, jobs are being added, we are reducing our troop presence in Iraq and soon may start reducing the troop levels in Afghanistan. In addition, we killed Bin Laden. I would say the President has done exactly what he promised to do in his campaign. It will take awhile to get our economy back to full speed, but the presiden's strong leadershipt certainly has helped us turn the corner and start on the path back to full recovery. President Obama sure seems a better choice for my vote than the conservative candidates who are mostly interested in stopping all abortions, teaching creationism as a science in schools, and giving the rich more tax breakes at the expense of the rest of America.

    May 4, 2011 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jester

      I ind i interesting that the last time gas was around $4.50 a gallon, the wanted the Prez's head, and we give Barry a free pass on this?? I find it interesting that even though I can still but a new computer for less than I bought one for 5 years ago, I can't eat it, where the cost of ground beef is up at the very least 50% and my wages are stale, and Barry gets a pass, even a pat on the back. I just find it interesting.............

      May 4, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Jester, I find it interesting that you fail to mention gas was $1.40 when bush took office, and hit $5 before he left. Given the FACT that the bush admin invited oil industry execs to ask how they would like to be regulated.

      May 5, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  10. Tarek Hamzi

    Hi Don

    May 4, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Linari

    Let's be very clear on THIS:if the greedy oil corporations and the Wall Street clowns would start paying THEIR fair share of taxes, and quit speculating on oil FUTURES instead of right now, perhaps we could get out of this mess. Obama didn't start the fire, Bush and his oil buddies did. Obama's been trying to put out the fire as long as he's been in office. Do you all honestly think he's in the Oval Office with a wheel of fortune spinning, saying "what's the price per gallon today?" Tards. He didn't triple the budget, the gd gop congress did. Don't forget, there was a surplus budget when Bush got into office, which he promptly depleted as fast as the speed of sound. Jeez, it's like talking to a kindergartener who only wants to color everything with a red crayon. Dolts!

    May 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Ace

    Polls useally take a few days to fully caculate! The polls that came out on Monday and Tuesday were most likely conducted a couple days before Osama's capture. Wait a week before you can truly say if Obama's polls rose.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Tarek Hamzi

    Don can we be friends. Then maybe more. I'm GAY.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  14. NotALemming

    Obama's very 1st Executive Order was to try and close Gitmo, and his Justice Dept is still actively prosecuting CIA agents for using "enhanced interrogation methods". Yet that very same facility and those very methods are what gave us the intel to finally find this guy. Obama's taking credit for the mission is curious, given his relentless actions hindering the mission up to this point....

    May 4, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve in Denver

      Not a lemming: Not a thinker, either. All of your faux news talking points are pure bunk. Kalid Sheik Mohammed, in 2004, one year after he was waterboarded 183 times, gave misleading information on the courier. Two other prisoners, one in Afghanistan, gave similar information while NOT being waterboarded. These clues were part of the data that, with a great deal of work after Obama told the CIA that bin laden was job 1, led to the courier.

      BUsh disbanded the CIA unit charged with capturing OBL (UBL to you fox noise types), Obama put them back on the job.
      Bush allowed bin laden to escape by refusing to provide requested troops to the "generals on the ground" who requested an operation in Tora Bora in 2001.
      Bush said in 2002 he didn't know where bin laden was and didn't pay him much attention. Obama did.

      How you neocons can be so oblivious to facts is amazing. Do you credit Clinton for the intelligence that allowed bush to quickly identify bin laden as the culprit of 9-11? I haven't seen that one yet, but you are crediting bush for an operation that started 1.5 years after the end of his presidency.

      You neocons fault obama for a recession that started in March 2007, and you credit bush for an operation that started in August, 2010?

      If ignorance is bliss, you neocons are some mighty happy people.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
  15. Terry

    We have a very intelligent President and i think that he is doing a great job.
    It will take alot to get our economy back in shape. One thing about Preident Obama he is not lazy..
    If some of the GOP would get off their butt and help, alot more would get done. Even if the economy
    gets better they still wont like him. So sad to me as an American. I hope come election time that
    the voters will give our President another term to get the rest of the job done, one thing forsure he will be working.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
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