Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?
May 4th, 2011
05:44 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?

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I'm voting for Obama in 2012. PERIOD! -Clint4CNN

‘Obama got Osama’ won’t win in 2012

LZ Granderson, a weekly CNN.com columnist and a senior writer and columnist for ESPN The Magazine, weighed in on how killing Osama bin Laden won’t seal the deal for U.S. President Barack Obama at the polls next year. He says that, among other things, Americans are more concerned about unemployment and gas prices, and he and points to a CNN poll after bin Laden's death that shows Obama's ratings have improved by only 1 percentage point.

So what do CNN.com readers think about Obama's chances now that bin Laden is dead?

dualaction said, " 'I swear if Obama turned water into wine his critics would accuse him of being an alcoholic.’ So sad and true.” BrainHertz said, “For sure 'Obama got Osama' is certainly not going to sway committed Republicans to change their vote in 2012. But something important did just happen: Republicans no longer have a 'soft on terrorism' stick to beat Obama with in 2012 which they would otherwise be using to try to swing independents." misterbig said, "Obama only took a couple of years to do what Bush couldn't do for seven years. The GOP can try to minimize his accomplishment, but it just makes them look like even bigger losers."

Granderson may not have addressed the subject directly in his column, but many CNN.com readers wondered about a viable Republican alternative. TGD783 said, "Obama didn't need to catch Osama to win 2012... the GOP doesn't have a serious candidate, Obama will win by default." BrodiMAN said, "In order for the Republicans to win in 2012, they first need a horse in the race. But, so far, all they've shown us is a bunch of mules and donkeys." Pearlene said, "If not Obama then who? Sarah Palin? Michelle Beckman? (sic) Donald Trump? Do you think they can do better?" But dnel responded, "Are you deaf, blind and stupid? Ron Paul that's who. Ron Paul will pull the troops spend less money on military while keeping the defense of the US strong. The dollar will recover the economy will recover. Anyone else is a joke."

ffmills said, "We have an honest and decent President with very good ideas who is supported on all sides by the brightest minds. I wish America would just appreciate what we have. There is NO short-term cure for America's economic problems and anyone who believes otherwise is being cheated by the vacuous promises of politicians who simply will find it impossible to deliver. If we would just relax for a while and give our President our support he will steer our nation back onto a road to prosperity."


Bush declines Ground Zero offer

On Thursday, President Obama will visit "ground zero" in New York City to mark the death of Osama bin Laden and visit with families who lost loved ones during the attacks on 9/11 – and he extended an invitation to President George W. Bush to join him. The former president declined, citing a desire to remain out of the spotlight since leaving office. Most CNN.com readers said they thought Bush had other reasons for skipping the event, while others applauded him for stepping aside.

R.L. said, “As much as I dislike GW, I think he should go to the World Trade Center on Thursday. He was President when this started and as much as I dislike the way he handled things, he was there for the victims' families and the first responders when they needed someone to lean on." Rudy NYC said, “President Bush seems to be getting wiser with age. Staying out of the political spotlight immediately after leaving office has been a long standing tradition for ex-Presidents." Pazke said, "There were so many people involved at every level that all deserve credit for bringing down bin Laden." Rsprings said, "Bush is a classy guy. He does deserve credit for setting up the apparatus that finally led the US to Bin Laden. The US will be relentless in its efforts to stop terrorists." Don said, "I can't believe I'm going to say this but Bush is right. We should keep this low profile."

But Tam said, "Bush has nothing to be proud of. Being there would remind everyone of his terms." Johnson said, "Did you expect anything different? If Obama was Republican he would be there." Ron said, "What a loser. Since he can't take credit for killing Been Lousy, he won't go to ground zero with the President who did. Bush will show up later....probably trying to promote his book again." Dominican mama 4 Obama said, "Imagine how stupid he would look standing at Ground Zero accepting part of the glory when his statements dismissing the importance of Osama have been played and replayed in the news since Sunday?" Steve (the real one) in Arizona said, "I am not surprised. Going back to Ground Zero would remind the world that it was during HIS presidency that 9/11 happened. It will remind the world of the useless and senseless war he started in Iraq that accomplished nothing. But most of all, he would be sharing the stage with the man who finally killed bin Laden." Jilli said, "Perhaps Mr. Bush finally found his sense of shame."

White House not releasing photos of bin Laden

The White House announced Wednesday afternoon that it will not release photos of Osama bin Laden's body. Most readers said they deserved to view the photos, while others claimed they wouldn't believe it until they saw the pictures. And some readers applauded the president's decision.

Copperbug said, "Thank you, President Obama, for showing your grace, maturity and respect. There is no reason to feed the morbid curiosity of others at the expense of basic decency." kevinlo said, "If the photo is unrecognizable what good would it do? Then we'd be having the discussion about the photo being a fake. Good decision."

But Inst7 said, "We can view footage of a journalist getting beheaded, Sadaam Hussein being hung, U.S. troops getting blown up, innocent people plummeting to their death on 9/11...but we can't see Bin Laden dead?" jman33 said, "We had no problem releasing the death pictures of Saddam and his sons but now all of a sudden there's a problem? It really shouldn't be any surprise that this president loves keeping things away from the public. It took him 4 years just to release his long form birth certificate, and he's still keeping his college records sealed." Countrycook said, "We the people want proof. When do we want it? Now." skytag mockingly said, "People need to see those pictures; people deserve to see those pictures; people have a right to see those pictures — all wrong. Some people want to see those pictures. Be honest. Just say you want to see them if you want to see them."

SgtUSArmy said, "And ... let the conspiracies begin!" briant7189 complied: "Maybe it's because Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter is now claiming that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 from Marfan Syndrome and is willing to testify under perjury before a court?" JohnQPublik said, "I bet the picture(s) make it to the internet in less than week, regardless of this lame attempt to contain them." PacificRain said, "Obama will release the photos right before elections. The photo has to be of some use, at least this time to get votes from the gullible."

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  1. omegarising

    Check out Osama Bin Laden pronounced dead for the 9th time. Unbelievable, He must have been a cat. What is sad is a lot of Americans will buy this propaganda rather than remember how he has already been pronounced dead in the Huffington post and on Fox news, Not to mention Steve R Pieczenik on April 24,2002 said Osama was on 2 dialysis machines and the man taking responsibility for 911 was a fat lookalike. Steve worked with Osama in the CIA. In 2002 President Musharraf of Pakistan said He was dead. Robert Baer former CIA officer, current intelligence expert and foreign policy expert said " of course He is dead".In 2008. Fox News Dec 26,2001 reported the Afgahn Taliban pronounced him dead.Jan 18, 2002 President Musharraf said again " He is dead". July 17, 2002 Head of Counter terrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson said He thought Osama was not with us anymore. Oct 2002 Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN , Osama is probably dead. 2003 Madeline Albright said Bush had Him on ice, waiting for a politically advantages time to bring Him out. You know Secretary of State Albright. Nov 2005 Harry Reid said He was told Osama probably died in the Pakistani earthquake in Oct 2005. Feb 2005 Professor Bruce Lawrence said the tapes and videos were fake and Osama was probably dead.Nov 2, 2007 Prime Minister Benazir Rhutto said Omar Sheik had killed Bin Laden. May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his American counter parts in intelligence said They had not heard from him in 7 years, He was probably dead. Good time for Obama to try to raise that popularity rating which is at an all time low.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
  2. fjames

    We have to be fair and give the man the credit he deserves let’s stop demonizing this president and treat him like the great leader he is.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • pat41

      What makes him a great leader?

      May 4, 2011 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • D

      Yes... because he has all that leadership experience! 2 years in the Senate! Let's not forget his ping pong organization days!

      May 4, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • monkies

      How about we treat the president, and other political leaders for that matter, like normal men? We give them credit where credit is due, criticize them when they screw up, and have thought out discussions about the laws which they wish to pass. Being in a position of power does not automatically deserve respect, being respectable deems respect. I do not agree with every thing which President Obama has done while in office, nor do I what he has done as foolish. As a country we need to learn how to think for ourselves once again.

      May 4, 2011 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • T

      Yap! what makes him a great leader? Did we forget when he did not want any interrogation at Gitmo? How do you think they found Bin Ladin (our troops not Obama) information came from Gitmo, this has been going on for more than 4 years not the last 2 years.

      May 4, 2011 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
  3. s kel

    parkmore will you please stop being a ignorant, hating, stupid,blind narrow minded fool. Damn im tired of you unfactual wrong hate and(im going too tell you blind fools the truth) racist repukes.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Ryan DV

    Alot of people deserve credit for this operation. Military, Intelligence, and ofcourse the President. But it should end there politically. It doesn't fix our economy. I'm so sick of people trying to give Presidents 100% credit for everything, or fully taking all credit away.

    My point is this one successful event doesn't change my opinion on the president. I will not vote for him because he hasn't kept any promises from his first election, and our economey is the #1 issue, and he is trying to solve a debt problem with more debt. Obamacare is something we can't afford period. I believe we need a fair bipartisan president, But Obama seems very one sided when it comes to all of his decisions. I'm not impressed with most of the candidates, but Time will tell. This country needs some serious changes, and Obama has already lead us in the wrong direction.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • fo

      fool like yu .................why dont yur run and be tghe next president............superman

      May 4, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • T

      Wow, I agree with you 100%. Couldn't say it better.

      May 4, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kyle

      The Congressional Budget Office said that the Obama health care bill would lower expenditures so this is not an issue that is going to expand the budget. Read more about the debt ceiling. There are a lot of good articles out there with competing, yet competent, reviews. I know what I like or dislike about this President but I base those opinions on peer reviewed facts. It is very difficult to separate facts from fiction when there is a complete divorce of reason in our social order and regular people without qualifications in life experience are the talking heads spewing assumptions and wishful thinking. It's not bad to ask and it's not bad to find answers to your questions. You don't have to act as if you actually know. There are people who have answers to these questions who are qualified through education and first hand life experience. Just like you wouldn't dare talk to a doctor or a plumber with challenging language you about their technical competence you should not do the same when it comes to politics and foreign policy when you are in the midst of actual experts. Fareed Zakaria and his thoughts; to include his recommended readings, are a very good place to start. Reading publications such as the Economist, Foreign Policy, Foreign Affairs and other periodicals (pier reviewed) will also help you grow in your insight and understanding of these issues so you can finally leave the talking heads behind and have a voice for yourself.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
  5. BlackDynamite

    Obama was gonna win next year, regardless
    But it's a nice thing to have on your resume
    Took down the biggest international terrorist of all-time
    BD

    May 4, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • T

      Obama owes thanks, and an apology, to CIA interrogators this just came from Bloomberg news

      May 4, 2011 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve in Denver

      @T: Waterboarding is wrong, it is a war crime, clearly defined by the Geneva convention which our senate ratified. It is therefore illegal. Even if it did produce the intelligence that brough down bin laden (WHICH IT DID NOT), it is still wrong, and we prosecuted it as a war crime in the past.

      OBL was brought down by hard working CIA and military investigators. some bits of data from the bush errors (sorry, era) were part of the body of work, and those came from KSM in 2004, a year after he was waterboarded, and was gotten under traditional interrogation techniques.

      Your Faux news revision of history won't cut it. Obama, the military, and the CIA get the credit on this one, bush and company entirely repudiated.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Aufbruch

      @Steve

      I want you to think about....one thing here: If the operation had been horribly botched, if Bin Laden turned out not to be there, and Marines had died in this epic fail of a strike....

      Would you blame the CIA/The idiot Marines.....or Obama for giving the green light?

      Just something to think about. : ) Regardless of your answer, one must admit: it's a LOT easier to place blame on bureacrats and president than it is to even _contemplate_ our armed forces doing _anything_ other than what is good and right, is it not?

      Abu Ghraib: Never Forgive, Never Forget.

      May 5, 2011 at 5:09 am | Report abuse |
  6. AmericanHistoryPastandPresent

    I can not believe hearing these people wanting to see a picuture of a guy. Why? Will that make him less dead or will it make them wonder if it is really him? Someone even stated that showing such pictures would show the man or men that will attempt to fill his shoes a message of "this is what waits for the man who tries to be HIM". Do anyone recall when freed-men in the 1950s waken out of there beds and hung and left there so that other blacks would know "this is what waits for the man who tries to be THEM". Now, in no way am I comparing my dear brothers and sisters to someone who had no respect of persons, but this is the same message. The people who were so against us having our freedom would bring us to court only to convict us and then hang us on the Courthouse lawn so that the world would know the punishment. "that teach those n@#%!s to act like they deserve to be free." There is no peace in the mist of confusion and this has CONFUSION written all of it and you sure can not find peace anywhere.
    I mean Obama I guess supposed to have said during his speech "after i finish speaking, the credits will role with all of bush accomplishment". Today, give credit to Bush for all that he has done but how dare you remind us over and over again that you inherent this debt. I mean really people. Thank God that the man has been captured and thank God that all efforts leading to this capture was accomplished no matter who it was...let it be American President Got Him.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • D

      It seems to me not wanting to release a picture of him because of the "backlash from the muslims" just means the terrorists really have won.

      May 4, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • AmericanHistoryPastandPresent

      you said the key word..seem...they only won if you give them that victory and think from the celebration in spirit in the streets that night, the text messages sent and everyone's else glued to the tv set that the American People didn't do all of these things so that we can say "USA, USA, USA, oh wait we haven't seen the picture yet! They wom! How does that statement seem to you?

      May 4, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      Not giving pictures is common decency, you ignorant, morbid creep.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
  7. fjames

    Ryan DV I am not saying give him all the credit, at the same time you have understand what this administration inherited when they took office. If both parties really want to fix our country they can but the republican’s don’t want to fix this country under Obama's watch. It doesn’t have to be this way a looser just have to learn how to be a good looser because they had their turn and they destroyed not just the USA but the entire world.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Marge

    The more I hear comments from the tea bags and the republicans I wonder how in the world these people who surely hate the American way of life stay in this country. They have no patriotism, they dis every thing being done to move this country forward. They are more like the people in some of these countries that are constantly fighting and trying to take over the heads of government. Most are so petty, so mean spirited so small minded it is a wonder they can ever function The cruds ran on creating jobs, but all they have done since they got in office has been to try to ruin any bill or law we have that doesn't hand the tax money over to corporations and the super rich. Shame on them.

    May 4, 2011 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • T

      "They have no patriotism, they dis every thing being done to move this country forward" So far with Obama with are going backward, he managed to triple our debt (by the way I am not a republican) no jobs and all he seems to do is campaign. All I can say he is not a patriot.

      May 4, 2011 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • T

      Obama owes thanks, and an apology, to CIA interrogators. I just read it in realclear politics.

      May 4, 2011 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve in Denver

      @T: I'll bet the morale at the CIA is at an all time high. A competent commander in chief led a military and intelligence mission to get the most elusive fugitive in the world.

      You neocons are making so much noise because, like the WMD, wiretapping, and other lies of the bush administration, all your beliefs are being soundly debunked by an intelligent and competent president.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
  9. Emuni

    Surprise, surprise! Who are you people trying to kid? Stop hiding behind all this political rhetoric and be honest for a change. (omg be honest?) You'd find fault with this president if he walked on water. See you at the polls!

    May 4, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  10. dion

    A Navy Seal did the deed. anyone on this site wanna call them liars ? didn;t think so...

    May 4, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • kflttru

      Navy SEALS haven't revealed anything.

      All we've heard are conflicting reports from White House

      Story changes every day, every few hours

      May 4, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Truth

    People....please don't buy this crap. Obama is a puppet for the CIA. This is all staged and Bin Laden has been dead for years....and NO dion.......your Navy Seals just did a mock drill in a Goverment ran so called hideout/crack house....

    May 4, 2011 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Chris

    Ok. I blame the media for the bad perception on the economy!! Aside from housing all parts of the economy are doing good. Manufacturing is at 30 year highs, we have now had 18 straight months of private sector job growth. The last 4 months we have jobs growth of 200,000 or more! Stocks are up 55% in the last 2 years, economic GDP has grown for 8 consecutive quarters and corporate profits are booming!

    Why does the media keep talking like the economy is so horrible when its just not, im sorr but The numbers dont lie! Here is a fact, at this same point in Ronald Reagan's 1st term unemployment rate was a whopping 10.6%, yes 10.6% was the unemployment rate in May of 1983 and he won re election by a landslide! Right now unemployment is 8.8% and falling.

    The media seems to think that its as clear as black and white. They say "oh, if gas prices are high Obama will lose" really? WOW, so completly ignore the fact the GOP field is weaker than the cleveland cavaliers.

    Here is another fun fact for the media. both Reagan and Clinton have both hit a dismal 39% approval rating 2 years in office, Obama has never came close to that low despite the disaster he inherited

    May 5, 2011 at 12:03 am | Report abuse |
  13. kflttru

    Obama said, I directed this, I decided, I , I, I, it's all about him. He just came out and anounced Bin Laden was dead. Said the U.S. Govt attacked, Americans went in and killed Bin Laden, never said Special Forces, Navy Seals, The U.S. Military, didn't even say soldier. You would think he did it himself. Now we here it was a staged photo-op in situation room.

    We need to hear from Military Generals, Commanders like we heard in the last Administration. Politics aside, at least George Bush wasn't afraid to come out and answer questions to the press and would include Military Officers to add their comments.

    All we get from Obama is a teleprompter speech. You could tell he used teleprompter Sun nite, he goofed up words, trying to catch his place.

    Please step aside and let Clinton or Military make the anouncements and answer reporters' questions.

    There's no reason to go to ground zero tomorrow just for a photo-op to use while you campaign.

    May 5, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      Well said!!!

      May 5, 2011 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Derek

      We'll get this information from people other than Obama eventually. It has only been a few days. What is more, the death of Osama bin Laden is a much more tender situation than that of the death of Saddam Hussein or any of those reported in the Bush era.

      May 5, 2011 at 1:18 am | Report abuse |
  14. Chris

    CNN why do you guys in the media keep moving the goal posts on the economy?! 2 years ago when we where losing jobs, you guys in the media where saying how we need to create atleast 50,000 jobs a month to make a impact. Well when we started creating 50,000 jobs a month the media yet again moved the goal posts and said we now need 100,000 jobs a month to make a impact, well now we are creating 200,000 jobs a month and you in the media still downplay it and call the job market "lousy" really? so 4 consecutive months of jobs growth 200,000 or more is lousy?! MORONS keep moving that goal post

    May 5, 2011 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
  15. sky_yang

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    May 5, 2011 at 12:08 am | Report abuse |
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