Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?
May 4th, 2011
05:44 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: No political capital for killing bin Laden?

Comment of the day:

I'm voting for Obama in 2012. PERIOD! -Clint4CNN

‘Obama got Osama’ won’t win in 2012

LZ Granderson, a weekly CNN.com columnist and a senior writer and columnist for ESPN The Magazine, weighed in on how killing Osama bin Laden won’t seal the deal for U.S. President Barack Obama at the polls next year. He says that, among other things, Americans are more concerned about unemployment and gas prices, and he and points to a CNN poll after bin Laden's death that shows Obama's ratings have improved by only 1 percentage point.

So what do CNN.com readers think about Obama's chances now that bin Laden is dead?

dualaction said, " 'I swear if Obama turned water into wine his critics would accuse him of being an alcoholic.’ So sad and true.” BrainHertz said, “For sure 'Obama got Osama' is certainly not going to sway committed Republicans to change their vote in 2012. But something important did just happen: Republicans no longer have a 'soft on terrorism' stick to beat Obama with in 2012 which they would otherwise be using to try to swing independents." misterbig said, "Obama only took a couple of years to do what Bush couldn't do for seven years. The GOP can try to minimize his accomplishment, but it just makes them look like even bigger losers."

Granderson may not have addressed the subject directly in his column, but many CNN.com readers wondered about a viable Republican alternative. TGD783 said, "Obama didn't need to catch Osama to win 2012... the GOP doesn't have a serious candidate, Obama will win by default." BrodiMAN said, "In order for the Republicans to win in 2012, they first need a horse in the race. But, so far, all they've shown us is a bunch of mules and donkeys." Pearlene said, "If not Obama then who? Sarah Palin? Michelle Beckman? (sic) Donald Trump? Do you think they can do better?" But dnel responded, "Are you deaf, blind and stupid? Ron Paul that's who. Ron Paul will pull the troops spend less money on military while keeping the defense of the US strong. The dollar will recover the economy will recover. Anyone else is a joke."

ffmills said, "We have an honest and decent President with very good ideas who is supported on all sides by the brightest minds. I wish America would just appreciate what we have. There is NO short-term cure for America's economic problems and anyone who believes otherwise is being cheated by the vacuous promises of politicians who simply will find it impossible to deliver. If we would just relax for a while and give our President our support he will steer our nation back onto a road to prosperity."


Bush declines Ground Zero offer

On Thursday, President Obama will visit "ground zero" in New York City to mark the death of Osama bin Laden and visit with families who lost loved ones during the attacks on 9/11 – and he extended an invitation to President George W. Bush to join him. The former president declined, citing a desire to remain out of the spotlight since leaving office. Most CNN.com readers said they thought Bush had other reasons for skipping the event, while others applauded him for stepping aside.

R.L. said, “As much as I dislike GW, I think he should go to the World Trade Center on Thursday. He was President when this started and as much as I dislike the way he handled things, he was there for the victims' families and the first responders when they needed someone to lean on." Rudy NYC said, “President Bush seems to be getting wiser with age. Staying out of the political spotlight immediately after leaving office has been a long standing tradition for ex-Presidents." Pazke said, "There were so many people involved at every level that all deserve credit for bringing down bin Laden." Rsprings said, "Bush is a classy guy. He does deserve credit for setting up the apparatus that finally led the US to Bin Laden. The US will be relentless in its efforts to stop terrorists." Don said, "I can't believe I'm going to say this but Bush is right. We should keep this low profile."

But Tam said, "Bush has nothing to be proud of. Being there would remind everyone of his terms." Johnson said, "Did you expect anything different? If Obama was Republican he would be there." Ron said, "What a loser. Since he can't take credit for killing Been Lousy, he won't go to ground zero with the President who did. Bush will show up later....probably trying to promote his book again." Dominican mama 4 Obama said, "Imagine how stupid he would look standing at Ground Zero accepting part of the glory when his statements dismissing the importance of Osama have been played and replayed in the news since Sunday?" Steve (the real one) in Arizona said, "I am not surprised. Going back to Ground Zero would remind the world that it was during HIS presidency that 9/11 happened. It will remind the world of the useless and senseless war he started in Iraq that accomplished nothing. But most of all, he would be sharing the stage with the man who finally killed bin Laden." Jilli said, "Perhaps Mr. Bush finally found his sense of shame."

White House not releasing photos of bin Laden

The White House announced Wednesday afternoon that it will not release photos of Osama bin Laden's body. Most readers said they deserved to view the photos, while others claimed they wouldn't believe it until they saw the pictures. And some readers applauded the president's decision.

Copperbug said, "Thank you, President Obama, for showing your grace, maturity and respect. There is no reason to feed the morbid curiosity of others at the expense of basic decency." kevinlo said, "If the photo is unrecognizable what good would it do? Then we'd be having the discussion about the photo being a fake. Good decision."

But Inst7 said, "We can view footage of a journalist getting beheaded, Sadaam Hussein being hung, U.S. troops getting blown up, innocent people plummeting to their death on 9/11...but we can't see Bin Laden dead?" jman33 said, "We had no problem releasing the death pictures of Saddam and his sons but now all of a sudden there's a problem? It really shouldn't be any surprise that this president loves keeping things away from the public. It took him 4 years just to release his long form birth certificate, and he's still keeping his college records sealed." Countrycook said, "We the people want proof. When do we want it? Now." skytag mockingly said, "People need to see those pictures; people deserve to see those pictures; people have a right to see those pictures — all wrong. Some people want to see those pictures. Be honest. Just say you want to see them if you want to see them."

SgtUSArmy said, "And ... let the conspiracies begin!" briant7189 complied: "Maybe it's because Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter is now claiming that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 from Marfan Syndrome and is willing to testify under perjury before a court?" JohnQPublik said, "I bet the picture(s) make it to the internet in less than week, regardless of this lame attempt to contain them." PacificRain said, "Obama will release the photos right before elections. The photo has to be of some use, at least this time to get votes from the gullible."

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Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (169 Responses)
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    May 5, 2011 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
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      May 5, 2011 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
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      May 5, 2011 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. sky_yang

    I hate war!

    May 5, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
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    May 5, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  5. dan smith

    I haven't heard any Navy Seal come our and say that it was Bin Laden, so far it's just been Obama's team that has made that claim and the only proof he's given is his word.

    May 5, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      Correct...for all we know it could have been a "Ham Sandwitch" that was thrown overboard....LOL. No proof....

      May 5, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lowdown

      And we know the "value" of Obama's word........

      May 5, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • SDN

      No doubt Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly would be happy to make the announcement – for an appropriate incentive.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
  6. sandyk

    It is getting to the point you cannot even give a truthful critical remark about an african-american without the race card being played. how did that happen? no matter what color a persons skin wrong is still wrong. suddenly seems only white people are wrong and no matter what everyone else is right!!

    May 5, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lowdown

      NASCAR is a "Race". Obama is a racist.

      May 5, 2011 at 1:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      NASCAR is a joke, slow lumbering steel frame cars with gas shocks and carbs. F1 is where the real racecars are, built the same way as fighter jets!

      May 5, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  7. amused

    For months Obama endlessly repeated 'Republicans gotta sit in back'

    During the budget negotiations in December, Obama called the Republicans ' hostage takers'

    When the Republicans submitted a budget proposal for 2012 (which the Democrats failed to do for 2011 or 2012) Obama went on TV to declare that their plan was 'unAmerican'

    About 50% of the population consider themselves to be, or support, Republicans.

    For some reason they do not like to be constantly and insulted by the President of the United States.

    Don't like Sarah Palin or Donald Trump (I don't)? Well, Obama is ensuring that many many people WILL vote for anybody but Obama.

    There are no red states or blue states, there are only the UNITED STATES – And Obama constantly chooses to insult and degrade about half the people living in ANY of the states!

    May 5, 2011 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
    • guest

      No, only you insult everyone.....you... and others like you who derive their facts solely from the "social media" text book. A generation of "cut and pasters" are now coming of age. Scary....

      May 5, 2011 at 2:09 am | Report abuse |
    • larry

      You sound really, really dumb. I'm sure you'll never figure it out for yourself so I thought I'd let you know.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Wildheart

      I agree in the basic logic of no red, no blue, just America. Coming from a conservative upbringing, I think it's time for the GOP to stop accusing Obama of anything they can think of. On the other hand, Obama hasn't always made it easy. Obama is just a man. He's made some good choices, some bad. We only destroy ourselves by idolizing or demonizing him.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:30 am | Report abuse |
    • JLN

      Just so you know, we (Democrats) all said the same thing under your 'beloved' President Bush. The whole 'there are no red and blue states' and 'the President isn't listening/acting on my views" didn't seem to phase your side when we said it, so why should anyone care about your whining now?
      We were told to "love it or leave it" about our country, so I'm offering you the same sentiment now.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Wildheart

      @JLN

      Because, even if Obama wins 2012 (which I think is probable) there's still going to be a republican eventually back in the white house. Screw eye for an eye, it doesn't work in the long run.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
  8. Joe

    CNN is just a 2nd class cable TV news network.....what garbage they produce...

    May 5, 2011 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Ace

      Another FOX zombie!!

      May 5, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
  9. Ace

    I find it funny how this whole economic mess started under a Republican president who served 8 years (6 of those years with his party in control of both houses of congress.) yet the RepubliCANTS still try to play the victim!

    Also another thing! Why do the Conservatives go on about how they want less government in peoples lives yet wish to use it to dictate who can or cannot get married? Or what you can or cannot watch on TV? Or what books you can or cannot read at your local library?

    May 5, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Ace

      My guess is that I wont get a single remark without someone using the whole "Cause the Bible says...."

      May 5, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
    • guest

      Hahaha...which "Bible" do you think they will reference ?

      May 5, 2011 at 2:13 am | Report abuse |
  10. dwech

    If Bush had actually the fortune of overseeing killing bin Laden during his tenure, we probably would have had another 'Mission Accomplished banner' moment, designed to increase his own popularity with war-hawk 'conservatives'. (The cost of two unneeded wars certainly isn't conservative).

    Obama made the right call - one in line with his experience as a statesman. He didn't lower himself or his administration to the level of ambulance-chasing paparazzi - and made a reasonable decision to not publish these photos. He confirmed both bin Laden's presence before sending in our troops, and a 'true kill' before making his announcement. The terrorist was buried with decency because our President and these military personnel are decent people, not as a reflection of respect for a murderer. We do the same when killers are convicted and executed here - we do not parade or gloat over photos of their dead bodies, nor should we start now.

    May 5, 2011 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve Lowdown

      His "experience" is that of bowing to our enemies.

      May 5, 2011 at 1:36 am | Report abuse |
    • SDN

      @lowdown: And you'd what, slap them around? I keep hearing from people like you that seem to think it practical for the 3.5% of us to bully the other 96.5% of the people on this planet. Ethically that idea is a disgrace, and tactically it is monumentally preposterous.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
  11. Steve Lowdown

    Obama didn't get Osama, a crack squad of Navy Seals did. It is clear from the picture in the oval office that Obama was about to cry over being told he was ordering the hit to go down. It is equally clear from the picture of the room full of people watching that the general at the computer was "in control" as Obama pouted about the situation.

    So That was Sunday. What has Obama done for us today? Gas is creeping over $4.00 a Gal and the jobs picture is still bleak. He should cash out and resign because he sure as Osama will come back, not win re-election.

    May 5, 2011 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Corella

      Speaking from the point of someone who has a family in the oil industry here. It is not obama's fault gas prices are rising to $4+ a gallon. Look at what the voters have done. Prop 23 if I recall the correct number, was asking for a delay of new green laws until unemployment issues cleared up a bit. What did the news do though? They spun their web and told people, "Tesoro wants to repeal all green laws!" and thus people voted it down making it harder to produce the gas thus causing an increase in prices. Well now whos fault is it? Not Obama's.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:02 am | Report abuse |
    • SDN

      There are many alternatives to living in the US.

      May 5, 2011 at 2:30 am | Report abuse |
  12. seals did in osbl not obama

    Navy Seals killed ben laden. all obama did was carry out someone elses stratgey. obama IS N0T a military man or stragtist. he was NEVER in the seqvice. maybe he played battleshi or stratgey. someone else put it together for him. all he did was take credit. surprised he didnt appoint a committe first

    May 5, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Ace

      ummm what is "the seqvice"?

      May 5, 2011 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      The vast majority of the hawks in then GOP have NEVER been in the service either, so what?

      May 5, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  13. James

    Surely, if OBL is still alive, he would have put out a video by now to disprove the administration's claim. Obama is showing great maturity and leadership in this incident. He is trying his best to deal with America's severe problems but he is meeting with resistance at every turn from the Republicans, who are more interested in politicking than in helping him better the lives of ordinary folks. America's standing in the world was at an all-time low when Obama took office and he is the best person to have in the W.H. right now, if America is to rise to prominence again.

    May 5, 2011 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Corella

      I completely agree. Obama took his job knowing that it was not going to be easy. There is no cure all for country wide decline. He is working to fix the problems as best as he can, yet people (republicans and anti-obamians alike) will never look at the bright side of his term. Obama promised change, and I think to the best of his ability he has givin us the change we voted for.

      May 5, 2011 at 1:57 am | Report abuse |
  14. Corella

    Honestly, I think Obama is right as well as wrong about not releasing the picture of Osama. While releasing the picture of Osama would clarify the situation (as well as spring up new conspiracies about if the picture was a fake or not) releasing the picture would also bring him down to the level of bush in showing the world the death of people like sadaam. I was happy to see the hanging, but I knew it was wrong to have it aired. All in all its a double edged sword; there are some benefits, and there are downsides. Just be happy its overwith and move on.

    May 5, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  15. Jindy

    @Steve Lowdown: You need to be 'de-Glenn Beck'ized – try to think for yourself for once. You make no sense at all for neutral observers here..

    May 5, 2011 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
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