Overheard on CNN.com: Land for peace?
May 20th, 2011
06:18 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Land for peace?

Comments of the Day:

“Obama is merely picking up the same plan that Israeli war hero Rabin championed to his death. I say this respectfully, because it is not an easy path, but the only one that can resolve it. I was in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem three months ago. At least half the Israelis agree with Obama's position.”– futureshock9

“You would think that the current Arab push for freedom would diminish the groups like Hamas who seek violent means to the ends. It should be clear after decades of pointless violence that peace can only be brought about through good-faith negotiation. Unfortunately, the Arabs have reneged and attacked Israel at every opportunity, rather than seeking to build their own nation. If I were a Jew, I would be very wary. The Arabs will have to put a lot on the table.” - celtic61

Obama calls for Israel's return to pre-1967 borders

In his speech to the State Department, President Obama called for Israel to return to its 1967 borders, "with mutually agreed swaps," so a secure peace could be established. This story elicited more than 11,000 comments, many of them arguing the history of the Middle East conflict from the Israeli or Palestinian viewpoint. While there were accusations that Obama had "thrown Israel under the bus", many like waggendog, said, "Well yea, Obama is just publicly saying what every president has been privately saying for decades."

“As an American Jew who has worked in Israel and has friends and family there, I believe what Israel is doing is not in their own interest. A friend tells you when you are doing something wrong. Obama is doing the right thing.” - ScottNH

Many CNN.com readers hailed Obama's remarks and called for compromise. kirikintha said, "I think that President Obama has the courage to point out the painful truth : The only way to a lasting peace is to move forward. There are no winners in Middle East peace, only general levels of hell. What do you do when everyone feels disenfranchised? What do you do when both sides are hell-bent on killing each other?”

humtake, who identified as a Republican, said, "I'm not a fan of Obama, but sometimes he does what is right. And in this situation, America needs to see that something has to be done by both sides or nothing is going to change. Allies don't have to always agree. My grandparents have been married for 63 years and don't agree on everything. But both sides need to work on fixing their problems together."

apeinclothes said, "There isn't another option if Israel wants to remain a Jewish-majority state. There are too many Palestinians to keep them in limbo indefinitely; neighboring Arab countries aren't going to absorb them, and the longer this goes on the more demographics favor the Palestinians. Israel either has to give up enough land to allow for a viable Palestinian state or choose between being Jewish-majority or being a democracy."

Is Obama about to break the law?

The deadline for congressional approval of U.S. military intervention in Libya is here. Without approval, the mission must stop within 30 days. But the issue has not been discussed or approved in Congress. Is President Obama "shredding the Constitution," as Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, describes it?

Slapdeezel said, "U.S. law doesn't apply to a NATO-led operation." dec12887 replied, "Cite the law that gives exception to NATO-led operations. There isn't one, so stop lying to yourself." JERBOA said, " It does not matter if it's a NATO operation. If the president sends troops to an armed conflict he needs the consent of Congress."

RyanHicks said, "The 60-day grace period ends today, yes. If Congress does not give approval by close of business today, then the president has 30 days to recall our forces before he has done something illegal. He still is in compliance for another month."

falcon615 said, "I am a liberal Democrat and voted for Obama in the primary. I support most of his policies and believe we are doing the right thing in Libya. Even though our action is intermittent, however, it should still be done legally. Obama should go to Congress, and they should authorize him to continue."

Gupta: Cell phones, brain tumors and a wired earpiece

CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta almost always uses a wired earpiece while talking on the cellphone. Data shows, he writes, that people who used a cell phone 10 years or more doubled the risk of developing a brain tumor. Eileen said, "I am curious. He specifies that he uses a wired earpiece. I wonder if that is significant or just coincidental. I have a Bluetooth wireless earpiece. Is it less safe than a wired one?" crcroce replied, "Bluetooth is the same as having your cell phone up against your head. Either wear a wired set or don't bother. And not all cell phones are created equal. Some have twice as much radiation as others."

But other readers disagreed. David, who said he worked for a major cell phone manufacturer and in the Mobile phone industry for 16 years said, "Please use a Bluetooth headset, not a wired one. Radio Frequency (RF) radiation travels up a wired headset and is like an amplifier! Keep your phone away from your body and use a Bluetooth, which emits very low radiation compared to phone. There is a reason manufacturers hire an army of lawyers to cover their liability. My father was on his crackberry for hours per day and died of a brain tumor located over the ear where he always had his phone. Don't become a statistic."

Shelly Kalnitsky said both options were bad. "I am the editor of the cell phone radiation news bureau. I receive reports of brain tumors every month from cell and cordless phones. Wired headsets conduct up to three times more radiation into your ear than just placing the phone there. Bluetooth is equally as bad as the signal from the phone carries radiation directly into your ear."

Vadi said, "I work for a cell phone company and had to use a cell phone daily for a continuous period of time. I was diagnosed with Accoustic Neuroma and underwent a surgery. I believe that tumor was caused by the cell phone. Mark said, "As somebody who had a brain tumor removed, I always use a wired headpiece when using my cell phone now."

Diane Raymond said, "My husband is a long term survivor of a glioblastoma multiforme IV brain tumor. He used the Motorola "brick" cell phone 18 years ago for a lot for business calls and regular use. I know others who have lost loved ones to this type of cancer and used the "brick.” I believe that there is a correlation."

Ann asked, "What about the cordless phones many of us use in our homes? Do they have the same effect on our brains?” dan asked, "What about the oxygen machine for sleep apnea? It has a modem and has to be near your head every night."

Do your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below, or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (206 Responses)
  1. PGelsman

    Land for peace? Get real, Israel gave them Gaza. Look what they did there? It looks like Berlin after WWII, and Hamas sends rockets into Israel.

    May 20, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheeri

      I have a cousin who worked in the israeli army to remove the jewish families living in Gaza
      In her own words " it was the hardest thing I have ever done, both soldiers and Jews residing their were crying and the families were forced into trailers out of there own home". The israelis belived that this "Peace for land" method would work as it did with egypt. To their suprise, They had rockets motars and suicide bombers attacking them with full force. The sacrafices moving these families made for peace had gone in vain.
      The reality of the situation is the palestinians will not have peace with us
      until we either
      a. give up israel and move too alaska
      or b. every Jew, Christian, bahaai, or arab israeli is buried in the ground.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • marat

      I have ZERO sympathy for the Palestinians. They VOTED in Hamas initially, KNOWING their Charter called for Terrorism–i.e. "The Destruction of Israel." It was no secret. Then Hamas staged a bloody coup, killing PA members who ran for their lives from Gaza to, ironically the Israeli border where they begged to be let in. There IS NO "Occupation," other than the Occupation by Hamas, a scion of The Muslim Brotherhood and Iran's Proxy Thugs. In the end, Israel will be forced to wipe them out, they are intractable. If CHINA was Israel, you can bet that Gaza would be in ashes today...they would never put up with the kind of barrage of terror attacks on their people. Mind you, Islamic Terror is epidemic throughout our world, extant in some 20 nations–and CHINA unbelievably is one of them as well. A huge, huge war is on the horizon between Israel and a good part of the Arab world, who sense blood and will seek to overwhelm Israel. But....Israel did not develop their extensive defensive nuclear weapons for no reason, but for their existential survival. And these sick aggressors should bear that in mind this time around. The Koran was the blueprint of this hatred...." Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. (See 2:65-66) 4:47 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." 4:89 "The "Religion of Truth" (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions." 9:33 "Allah will destroy non-muslim cultures." 7:138-9 You call it "religion." But I call it sheer fascism

      May 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rami

      YES, land for peace... give the Jews Kansas .. just tell them its the real promise land. They stole the land of Palestine. Dont feel sorry for them.. in fact hell with them... get out of Palestine

      May 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Ellis from Panama

    Okaaaay. Land for piece. I'll give you land for piece of a man's aszzzzz

    May 20, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Thinker23

    "Land for peace" DID NOT, COULD NOT and WILL NOT work because it's both UNFAIR and ILLOGICAL.

    "Land for peace" is UNFAIR because it assumes that only one state in the conflict (in this case, Israel) wants peace and that this peace loving side must PURCHASE peace from the other, violent, side and pay for this PURCHASED peace by land. The violent terrorist side, however, will get BOTH peace and land for free.

    "Land for peace" is ILLOGICAL because it assumes that after getting some land in response to terrorism and thus PROVING that terrorism works the terrorists will somehow become peaceful and will not use MORE terrorism to get MORE land.

    May 20, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Joe Fattal

    Its Israel that needs to seek peace with the Palestinians not the other way around. And besides what Natenyahu has to reject anyhow. He himself can't even come out with borders to offer to the Palestinians. At least Obama told him to go back to the 1967 borders. He said what was legal to say since Israel is still building housing in illegal settlements. Its legal for Israel to go back to the 67 border line and illegal of them to build and stay where they at. But Knowing Israel it will challenge any decision and would rather fight another WW than giving up few acres of land. The Palestinians have nothing to lose, Israel can always lose what they have worked for since 1948.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      Joe Fattal: Its Israel that needs to seek peace with the Palestinians not the other way around.

      Israel offered them peace and a sovereign independent state in 1948, 1967, 1978, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009 and the Palestinians REJECTED it every single time. Israel can OFFER them peace but it can not shove it into the Palestinian collective mind against their will... and if you believe that Israel exist on "Palestinian land" WHY don't you SHOW THE LEGAL DEED to support this claim?

      May 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  5. American Muslim

    The Best Solution I can think of:
    Israel gives back all of West Bank, Shebaa Farms in Lebanon, Golan Heights, and Gaza. Palestinians receive full sovereignty – which means control over air and water rights and entry/exit points. Israel releases all prisoners currently held in its jails. East Jerusalem will be Palestinian Capital.
    Israel makes peace will all PAlestinian factions (including Hamas & Hezbollah). Israel receives complete recognition by all Arab states and Iran. Israel receives political and economic ties with the rest of the middle east, including reparations for Jews that were thrown out of Arab lands

    How does that sound everyone?

    May 20, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • PeaceOnly18

      That sounds like you are dreaming. Wake up!

      May 20, 2011 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      I really hope this is a sarcastic post.

      You're saying that Israel..who has been terrorized by a terrorist led 'nation' for decades with rockets, kidnappings, etc should make ALL concessions, give up their holy land, etc...and get NOTHING in return.

      And all Arab states recognizing Israel, are you kidding me?

      The best solution for me is for Palestine to first get something other than a UN recognized terrorist organization in power..and then we'll go from there

      May 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      It sounds EXTREMELY NAIVE. You see, the ONLY possible solution is a PEACE AGREEMENT. Peace agreement can only be achieved by PEACE NEGOTIATIONS. Peace negotiations can only be successful when BOTH sides are ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate peace. All this means that as long as the Palestinians are UNABLE AND UNWILLING to make peace there will be no peace. If and when the Palestinians will produce leadership ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate a peace agreement this leadership will stop violence, recognize Israel and ask for peace negotiations... and yes, Israel already recognized ALL Arab countries since 1948 and asked them to negotiate peace.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • American Muslim

      If Israel does not make peace it will cease to exist. Let me explain. First, there has been a recent surge of Israeli emigration, to the point that it is greater than Israeli immigration. (More Jews leaving then entering). 2nd. The Palestinian population is exploding and will surpass the Jewish population. Israel cannot occupy the Palestinians forever. No force in the world has ever been able to occupy another indefinitely. You have to either kill your adversaries or absorb them into your society. Israel cannot complete the former option and it cannot accept the latter because it won't change it's Jewish character. It is very difficult for any nation to state that is both democratic yet only exclusive to one race/religion. Can't do both. If the Palestinians were smart they would just lay down their arms (Silly to fight Israel's powerful military) hoist the Israeli flag and demand full citizenship as Israelis. This is a doomsday scenario for Israel. That is why my proposal or one similar to it would be great for Israel. Not to mention Israel's powerful ally (the US) is becoming mired in two wars and the benefactor of all these wars, thanks to Mr. Bush is Iran and we all know the problems they are causing for Israel. Israel needs peace more than the Palestinians. Anyhow, my two cents on this.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rami

      It wont fly... because it make sense, but you are talking to an idiots over here.

      May 20, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
  6. jeffrow

    If Israel goes back to the pre-1967 boarders, the terrorists over there will continue their attacks in a attempt to get even more land from Israel. What happened to not negotiating with terrorists?

    May 20, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyler Durden

      One Man's terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter. Israel is an occupying force. Were the French terrorists when they fought back against the German occupation?

      May 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kumar

      Jews are the occupants, which century are you living in ?

      May 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      Tyler Durden: Try to use the definition of terrorism below and you'll NEVER confuse terrorism with anything else:


      May 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Wilben

    It id not work before the war. Why would any idiot think it will work now??

    May 20, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • JJegh

      The war in 1967 that was started by Israel? The war where Israel leaked false intelligence to the Russians that they were going to invade the Sinai so Egypt's army gathered there and then Israel subsequently air bombed their military sites?

      The only reason there is conflict is because of the aggressive Zionists and the only reason the USA supports them has to do with an agreement from 1973 that prevented nuclear war. Well the cold war is over and the camp david accords that give the 3 bil in aid every year should be abolished now that Mubarak is gone. If Israel still wants to go nuclear crazy we can turn them into an ash tray in seconds.

      The 1967 was a territory war. Israel wanted to recreate the biblical land of Israel from the Nile to Euphrates (the reason for the blue stripes on their flag, and also according to Arafat there is a map of it on one of their coins). They weren't shy about this either in that time period trying to convince Jews everywhere that 'the little guy' just one a war and that they were going to re-create their biblical land (which is a fictional bs story anyways).

      Ariel Sharon instructed his troops to occupy as much land as possible for they would never give it back. The 'city' of Ariel (unrelated to Sharon) is a cancerous tumor that intersects and explodes within the west bank to prevent a Palestinian state. Israel has no peaceful intention. They want the land. all of it. They'll nuke good people to get it. Palestinians only fight out of resistance. Why does nobody understand this? Why is everybody really that dumb to believe in the rapture thing? Lets get realistic. Israel's very existence undermines US security. The CIA admit this in 1947!!!!!

      Israel is on a self destructive path. Before the end they will start WWIII with nukes. STOP THEM NOW!

      May 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      JJegh: The war in 1967 that was started by Israel?

      No, it was not. The war of 1967 was started by the Arab nations because Egyptian President Nasser thought that he will be able to finish Israel once and for all. The Egyptian blockade of the Tiran Strait left Israel no option but to use force against Egypt in full accordance with the UN definition naming blockade of foreign sea port an act of aggression.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
  8. PeaceOnly18

    Peace can not be achieved through occupation. IDF has been tormenting the Palestinian people for too long. It's time for a free and democratic Palestine. Take advantage of the winds of change blowing across the Middle East. It's now or never.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  9. eleanor

    The palestinians only want jihad.They want to terrorize all israelis and take away all the land.They do not want peace, it is a lie. Israel has wanted peace and gave away so much land and all palestinians do it attack and create terrorist activity.
    There is no negotiating with the palestinians, WHy dosnt lebanon give some land to the palestinians to call their own.
    Palestinians are murderers who do not want peace, they are not better than the taliban.They support hamas which is a terrorist group.
    Israel is a peaceful country with a right to defend the land and people. muslims have proven over and many times that they cannot live peacefully with the western culture.Israel is a western culture country.they train small children in palestinian schools to throw rocks at israelis and violence.they raise their kids to become terrorists. maybe they will be happy in iran.
    why dosnt acmedinijad set aside some iranian land for his palestian muslims to live in

    May 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyler Durden

      Why don't the Germans set aside some land for the Israelis. Weren't they the ones that caused the Holocaust?!
      Or better yet why doesn't the US give a couple of States to the Israelis. I mean we do have 50 of them. How about Florida and New York? The fact is Israel is a state exclusive for only Jews. In the United States that's called Racism. How is it that an Arab that has been in that land for hundreds of years can be forced to flee so that some Jew from the Ukraine/Russia/Bulgaria can settle that land because "it was theirs 2000 years ago". Give me a break. You CAN"T go around and say "Oh we are democratic be our state only belongs to xyz religion/race/creed"

      May 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      In response to Tyler Durden really.

      Israel is not a state solely for the Jewish people, with over 25% of the country being of Arab or christian decent. In the United States we call your claim IGNORANCE.

      and you are saying that land claims are invalid, have you heard of first nations people? you know the ones that were forced off their land by oppressive settlers and then later given their land back 100's of years later.....

      May 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      Tyler Durden: The fact is Israel is a state exclusive for only Jews.

      I'm not sure which orifice your "facts" are coming from but in the REAL world every fourth Israeli is an Arab, not a Jew.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Thoma

    You only need to look at GAZA to see that land for peace is really, Land for the enialation of Israel.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Macho Man RIP

      So why aren't rockets flying out of the West Bank? If all Palestinians were terrorists then you'd see attacks coming from the West Bank. I hate Hamas, and if you eliminated them from Gaza then fine with me, but I can use my brain to know when terrorists have hijacked a movement. Jews should be more sympathetic to the effects of stereotyping an entire people. If the land is divided for all the world to recognize then any attack on Israel would not be seen as an internal matter, rather it would be seen as an act of war. Israel could then defend its "borders" justly in the eyes of the world.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      Macho Man RIP: So why aren't rockets flying out of the West Bank?

      Well, the West Bank is still controlled (occupied) by Israel. Take away the occupation and rockets will start flying...

      May 20, 2011 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • West Bank Facts

      e West Bank (Arabic: الضفة الغربية, a-iffä l-Ġarbīyä, Hebrew: הדגה תיברעמה, HaGadah HaMa'aravit or Hebrew: ןורמושהו הדוהי Yehuda ve-HaŠomron [1][2] ) of the Jordan River is the landlocked [3] geographical eastern part of the Palestinian territories located in Western Asia. To the west, north, and south, the West Bank shares borders with the state of Israel. To the east, across the Jordan River, lies the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The West Bank also contains a significant coastline along the western bank of the Dead Sea. Since 1967, most of the West Bank has been under Israeli military occupation and is referred to as Judea and Samaria Area by the Israeli military and civilian administration. A smaller part of the West Bank is administered by the Israeli civilian authorities as part of Jerusalem District. For 400 years immediately prior to the First World War, the area now known as the West Bank was under Ottoman rule as part of the province of Syria. At the 1920 San Remo conference, the victorious Allied powers (UK, US, etc.) allocated the area to the British Mandate of Palestine. Following World War II, United Nations passed the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine which aimed to establish a two-state solution within Palestine. The territory known as the "West Bank" was originally part of the proposed Arab territories, but following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War this area was captured by Trans-Jordan (renamed Jordan in 1949). The name "West Bank" was proposed by the Jordanian authorities to describe the area west of Jordan River. The 1949 Armistice Agreements defined its interim boundary. From 1948 until 1967, the area was under Jordanian rule, and Jordan did not officially relinquish its claim to the area until 1988, ceding its territorial claims to the PLO and eventually stripping West Bank Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship. [4][5] Jordan's claim was never formally recognized by the international community, with the exceptions of the United Kingdom and the Unites States. [6][7][8] The West Bank was occupied by Israel, during the Six-Day War in June, 1967. With the exception of East Jerusalem and the former Israeli-Jordanian no man's land, the West Bank was not annexed by Israel, and remained Jordanalthough a large number of Israeli settlements have been illegally built in the region since 1967. Close to 500,000 Israelis live in the West Bank settlements, annexed East Jerusalem and the former Israeli-Jordanian no man's land areas. [9] The West Bank has a land area of 5,640 km 2 (including East Jerusalem), [10] and 220 km 2 water (the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea). Its population is 2,514,845 (June 2010) [11] according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS). Other Palestinian ministries indicate that its Arab population, excluding East Jerusalem, is 1.5 million.The United Nations Security Council, [65] the United Nations General Assembly, [66] the United States, [67] the EU, [68] the International Court of Justice, [69] and the International Committee of the Red Cross [70] refer to it as Palestinian territory occupied by Israel. General Assembly resolution 58/292 (17 May 2004) affirmed that the Palestinian people have the right to sovereignty over the area. [71] According to supporters of Israel's rights, since the area has never in modern times been an independent state, there is no legitimate claimant to the area other than the present occupier, which is Israel. This argument however is not accepted by the international community and international lawmaking bodies, virtually all of whom regard Israel's activities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip as an occupation that denies the fundamental principle of self-determination found in the Article One of the United Nations Charter, and in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. Further, UN Security Council Resolution 242 notes the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war" regardless of whether the war in which the territory was acquired was offensive or defensive. Prominent Israeli human rights organizations such as B'tselem also refer to the Israeli control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip as an occupation. [72] John Quigley has noted that "...a state that uses force in self-defense may not retain territory it takes while repelling an attack. If Israel had acted in self-defense, that would not justify its retention of the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Under the UN Charter there can lawfully be no territorial gains from war, even by a state acting in self-defense. The response of other states to Israel's occupation shows a virtually unanimous opinion that even if Israel's action were defensive, its retention of the West Bank and Gaza Strip was not." [73] International law (Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention) prohibits "transfers of the population of an occupying power to occupied territories", incurring a responsibility on the part of Israel's government to not settle Israeli citizens in the West Bank. [74]

      May 20, 2011 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Kumar

    The very violence of palestinians are the result of the very existence of Isrreal. Whil isreal is not ready to accept that fact, so palestinians would not back down too.. they would NOT accept isreal. Now, the fact that isreal exists on palestinian land is enormous for the people of the region. By conceding to 1967 border line, Isreal can blunt that to some extend. ... Isreal would find increasingly untanable to hold on to present border. if it is adament, it would be forced to accept, as is always happens with jews state. Force works for isreal, not decency.... and that is how it defines the jews state.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      Kumar: The very violence of palestinians are the result of the very existence of Isrreal.

      I hope very much that you're wrong... Because if you're right it means that the only way for the Israelis to live in peace is EXTERMINATION of Palestinians. On the other hand (again, if you're right) it will not be such a bad thing because extermination of such INHERENTLY VIOLENT AND MURDEROUS creatures from the face of the Earth will benefit ALL humanity and not only the Israelis.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Kumar

    And not to mention, like iran, isreals security agencies are turned into state terror groups, no difference from ISI

    May 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
  13. JJegh


    They were forced to give that up ages ago. Like after they got their butts handed to them by the Egyptian military and THREATED NUCLEAR WAR which got Russia's attention and the attention of the USA who eventually aided them into a cease fire. This led to the 'best friends' line of BS and the 3 billion in aid after the camp david thing. PS, they're only best friends because of an agreement TO STOP NUCLEAR WAR from Henry Kissinger in 1973. The CIA hates Israel. They're the worst ally to the USA on the planet.

    Anyways, Sinai should be on here. I know the Jews and the Zionist god-fearing Christians who believe the rapture want the Jews in the holy land but the biblical land of Israel is just a fantasy

    May 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinker23

      JJegh: Do you know WHERE the cease fire was signed in 1973? Right, at the 101th kilometer of the Cairo-Suez highway with the Egyptian capital within the range of Israeli long range artillery, the 3rd Egyptian Army fully encircled, the 2nd Army semi- encircled and the remaining 1st Army left in reserve to defend Cairo. Get a clue next time...

      May 20, 2011 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
  14. What?


    A compromise doesn't equal arrogance; arrogance is starting off a sentence with "I'll forgive you"-instead of "let me explain", or something similar. Sarcasm rarely comes across in the written word when it begins with "I'll forgive you"; it comes across as someone who is convinced he/she is more superior in intelligence than the ones he/she is posting to.
    Compromise IS needed when Palestine and Israel are concerned; my post has nothing to do with that, nor have I done anything to be "forgiven" for.
    When trying to educate, it's helpful if one doesn't patronize the person/people one is trying to educate.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Macho Man RIP

      Well then we both agree that the corporate media is brainwashing the kidless sheep out there. Nobody has ever been nice to me when I've made mistakes or been misguided on an issue. I'm tired of the Gaza strip being made the scapegoat by those in the media with interests in prolonging the issue. I said what I said, because I don't believe the writer was misinformed, but was trying to misinform anyone reading this. Either way people should study a subject before forming an opinion. Many lives could be saved. The news frequently makes mistakes or outright deceives the public. I have a right to be sarcastic, especially since I'm stuck on this planet with everyone else. Im tired of the snakes controlling the debate and the blind sheep following every word like gospel.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
  15. jon

    Israeli's and Palestinian's both descended from the ancient Philistine's, sorry bible thumpers but there's ample evidence at most of the ancient dig sites, so what we should be working towards is a united Israel\Palestine. Besides with the limited resources in that area it's the only viable solution.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      If you are making the claim that because both Jews and Islam claim Jerusalem as the 'holy land' and therefore both have a claim too it, you are missing the fact that Judaism was founded more than 2000 years before Islam

      May 20, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Macho Man RIP

      Not entirely true. The Israelites were tribal enemies of the Philistines. They continue their feud to this day, only now we have neat religions at the center of the conflict.

      May 20, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
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