Senate rejects budget measure containing Medicare overhaul
May 25th, 2011
06:25 PM ET

Senate rejects budget measure containing Medicare overhaul

In what amounted to political theater rather than legislative action, the Senate rejected Wednesday a House budget plan that included a controversial provision to overhaul Medicare.

The measure was expected to fail due to overwhelming opposition by majority Democrats, as well as wavering support for the Medicare overhaul among Republicans who recognize the provision's unpopularity with senior citizens enrolled in the government-run health insurance program.

The final vote on the proposal originated by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, was 40-57, mostly along party lines. Republicans who joined the majority Democrats in opposing the measure were Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine.

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  1. FatSean

    Get your government hands off of my Medicare!

    Teabagger candidates seem to have forgotten who sent them...

    May 25, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • trickam5422

      Medicare is a government initiative! How can you ask that government takes its hands off your Medicare? Are you mentally legal?

      May 25, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
  2. sdeisme

    So they vote down budget plan that will work and nobody has an answer? Whats wrong with the voucher program? Its all the freeloaders that are worried that they wont be given totally free medical care just like theyve been given all their lives. Why is it that my mother who worked and paid taxes all her life recieves medicare and has co pays just like any other insurance and yet some of the ladies down the block who have never worked a day in their lifes can go to any hospital they choose and pay for nothing? We need medicare/ medicaid reform if not it will go broke and nobody will be covered. Keep spending Obama your doing just what you were voted in to do. Ill keep my money, freedom and firearms you can have your change.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • freefromreligion

      go ahead "bubba", you keep your firearms handy in case that terrible obama guy is gunning for you!

      May 25, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • AustinTony

      It doesn't work. You're just being told it works from the right. Ask people who use medicare if it 'works'. By the way, I pay into medicare and social security so I would like to get that back when I need it. So would other sane individuals. The GOP is going to have a rough time in 2012. Good luck with all that.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nan

      Whats WRONG with a voucher program? You can NOT be serious. It's worthless. Seniors are "high risk" to insurance companies, for starters, therefore not insurable in the regular market. They paid into the program all their lives and we cut health care for them to make oil co executives richer and get more fed tax subsidies? Paul Ryan's plan is an insult to every "thinking" person, and I am in disbelief that anyone is buying the con job. Do a little REAL research. Medicare costs approx 1.5% to administer. Private insurance companies make up to 30% profit in admin costs. Thats a fact. The Ryan plan cuts the top billionaire tax rate from 35 to 25%, then tries to make up for it by denying access to health care to seniors who no longer work and live on fixed incomes. It is repulsive.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Johnny DC

      AustinTony – which part of "Medicare and Social Security will be bankrupt in a few years" don't you understand? It has nothing to do with the desire of the GOP to kill the seniors and take away your precious Social Security money. If you are under 50 right now, you're screwed with or without the GOP plan. Do you not see that? It's called insolvency, and it's inevitable – just ask the main accountants of either plan.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dr. A. Cannara

      Everyone, except those with some personal profit to make, knows what's wrong with a voucher system - no inflation adjustment, but direct subsidy of insurance bureaucracies. Supposed 'conservatives' complain about bureaucracies, but that's what they want to fund & perpetuate.

      Medicare is one of the most effective, efficient systems ever created in the US. For comparison, look at the bureaucratic, insurer-subsidizing prescription drug plan the Bush admin created - all honest accountings show it a supremely wasteful corporate subsidy. How do you think United HEalth Care's CEO gets over $100M a year?

      Too many folks calling themselves "conservative" aren't - they're just liberal with other folks' lives & $.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rennie

      So you know for a fact that everyone but your mother is a freeloader? Really you know all. In the military, yes I was there. I must of had free medical care. My mother worked all her life without benefits. My father worked all his life for no benefits. So you want the ones unable to buy insurance to just die. That's a good christian GOP thought. Must make you feel really good to know you can afford insurance. I pay 1000 a month for my wife to have insurance. My co pay is 750 dollars a year for her. Insurance has never paid a dime. You don't know squat. Got to be a Christian man.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
  3. jordan

    The Republicans show their true colors by picking on seniors,cutting eductation,cutting services to the poorand doing this while they vote themselves a tax cut.
    after 8 years worth of bush this country's debt skyrocketed.
    maybe this government should do some of the following instead of picking on the needy.
    1.overhaul the tax code
    2.close any loopholes that allow USA businesses to offshore stuff
    3.take away the rich tax cuts
    4.end the redundent government functions

    there are a few such suggestions.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Have you seen what it's done since Obama took office??? Koolaid drinking moron...

      May 25, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • sdeisme

      Are you kidding Obama spent more in 2 years than Bush spent in 8. I know you low lives that dont pay any taxes think its wonderful having the government take care of you. But its not the goverment it hard working tax payers that are footing the bill for the lazy.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • freefromreligion

      Obama HAD to inject all sorts of money into this countries economy in order to get things rolling again due to the mess that was left by good old GW Bush. All the complainers never set back and think how much of a depression we would be in if McCain had won. Thank goodness for Obama!!!

      May 25, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Johnny DC

    More of the same from Democrats, which will get them more of the same in the next election cycle. Bravo, Democrats. You've used up your chances, and will lose everything in 2012.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • John N. Seattle, WA

      Yes, its the Democrats, guys...REALLY? Why dont you watch C-SPAN and listen to the BS that the GOP keeps spouting? Seriously, if you are NOT watching and listening to the arguments, stay off the comment just make yourself look ignorant.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Johnny DC

      John – what have they done differently? They are now defending their massive abusive spending programs – the same programs which lost them the House in 2010. Which part of my statement was false? They are going to lose the Senate and White House in 2012 because they are maintaining their course into a place most Americans don't want the country to end up. It's that simple.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • freefromreligion

      Better check the results from the latest "special election" to fill an empty Rep. seat in New York. The dem won by mainly pointing out the republican budget plan that the opponent was in favor of. Rep Ryan's budget proposal will result in the dem's taking back the house when Obama gets re-elected in 2012.

      May 25, 2011 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jim

    This is incredibly amusing to me. If democrats had proposed this, republicans wouldn't be able to stop complaining about it. They'd call the democrats everything from socialists to nazi's. lol

    May 25, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Jim

    Ah yes, the Democrats, the Party of No... No alternatives, no budget, no spending cuts, no clue...

    May 25, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • John N. Seattle, WA

      There IS an alternative that the Democrats includes retiring the tax breaks for the rich. Since the Corporate Overlords who finance the GOP dont like it, it will never see the light of day. Quit blaming the Dems and start blaming the BILLIONAIRES who get tax breaks and subsidies!

      May 25, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Johnny DC

    Hey Jordan – are you aware (I ask even though I know the answer is "no") that if the tax rate was 100% for all families earning $250k or more in the United States, it wouldn't be enough money to pay for the current budget? 100%. There is no tax hike on the rich that can pay for the insensible budget this president and the previous Congress has laid out for the country. Yes, it's also Bush's fault for a similar overspending pattern – but what Bush started, Obama has perfected. Blaming the Republicans for the expansion of debt that Obama has created is ludicrous – just like trying to fill the gap with a tax increase that will have no impact is ludicrous.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Bryan Pratt

    Kick the can a little harder...come on, you can do it....why address real material issues facing our budget now?

    May 25, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
  9. sdeisme

    I think the only way to make the democrats understand how serious the debt crisis is getting would be to raise the debt ceiling 500 billion at the time and tell them that it has to last X amount of days. Do you people spend like this in your personal lives? How many of you own homes, and how many of the are being repoed ?

    May 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. David

    Whether we like it or not something has to get done to change the path we are on. We all have to find ways to take more of our cost burdens on ourselves and not rely on government to care for us.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
  11. sdeisme

    The fix is very simple. Its called a National sales tax. Why should I have to pay a bigger percentage of my income than anyone else? Why should someone be able to get earned income credits and get back more than they paid in? Everyone should be taxed an equal percentage of their spending. With a national sales tax everyone , illegals, drug dealers, tax evaders of any form would be taxed equally to me. If someone makes more they usually spend more, and should not have to pay a penalty for saving for their future.

    May 25, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
  12. sdeisme

    What liberals and democrats dont seem to understand is that the "RICH" as you call them already pay a bigger percentage than those that make less money than "the rich" do. How is it a tax break when you let me keep more of my money when I already pay a bigger percentage than most Americans do? BTW Im by no means rich but I do fall into the bracket that Obama wants to raise taxes on. I have my own buisness and work very long days and most weekends to achieve this, by dem/ lib rational I should just let the government take care of me and get more sleep.

    May 25, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |

    I see that the Senators did the right thing this time which is unusual for them. The right-wing fanatics want the money to throw at the cursed Pentagon for their obscene wars halfway around the world. What we need to do is to get out of these cursed wars and put more money into medicare and social security which won't happen under Obama,unfortunately!

    May 25, 2011 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Voice Of Reason

    This is all quite stupid. Both parties have corporate overlords let's get that clear. Other than elderly and handicapped there should be no free rides. Only students or underemployed people should benefit from social programs. No more cradle to grave welfare. Bill Clinton had it right with welfare to work. Even if it was a republican's idea..... who cares? Just get something done. Ending outsourcing would get more "stimulus" to the economy and tax revenue than anything else, but neither party wants to address that do they?

    May 25, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
  15. md

    I live in this community and prior to Elizabeth's abduction, many of us had brief contact with Brian David Mitchell. This man is nothing short of evil. We, in Elizabeth's community, are so very glad that this evil person will not be able to wander among us ever again. He has a clear mind and is a very calculating individual. I am so glad Elizabeth has been able to overcome these terrible events in her young life. Let's now forget this man and move on with our lives – I know for a fact she will.

    May 25, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thedickwhisperer

      Wrong article.

      May 25, 2011 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
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