Overheard on CNN.com: To be great, James needs humility
LeBron James reacts during Sunday's NBA Finals game against the Dallas Mavericks. Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki is at rear.
June 13th, 2011
07:34 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: To be great, James needs humility

Comment of the Day:

“It's not about him leaving Cleveland: players do that all the time. It is the manner in which he left and the ego he took into this season that makes it satisfying to see him fail hard in the championship. Kinda like when the Giants took down the 18-0 Patriots.”–rob

Clevelanders laughing as LeBron loses; in Dallas, perseverance pays off

It seems that LeBron James broke the hearts of many Cleveland fans when he moved on to play basketball for the Miami Heat. So Clevelanders were a mite gratified when Miami lost to the Dallas Mavericks in Game 6 of the NBA Finals on Sunday night. Many CNN.com readers said the issue was sportsmanship and not ability.

deb said, “Sportswriters get it. Players get it. If you put self-promotion above the game, you are not going to be well liked. Character still counts. Humility still counts. Lebron could be great, but he needs to chill out, figure out how to play with a team as a team and put away the cult of personality. He is potentially one of the greatest, but you can destroy talent without discipline. In any event, Dallas and Dirk worked for it, and worked together to win. Beautiful.”

Bobby said, “Whether Mavericks fans or not, all fans can appreciate winning with class, and all fans can appreciate those without class being humbled. The youth of today needed to see that those who think only about themselves are not often rewarded.”

r-hope said, “It boils down to one thing: humility. And LeBron doesn't know how to spell that. After losing, he was too proud to even congratulate the Mavs; that is what you do in sports. You acknowledge that the winning team did a better job. The day Lebron will learn to win and not thump his chest about it, or gloat over those who lose, that will be the day he becomes a real star.”

Many readers said it was time for Cleveland fans to let go of the past and move on. Steph said, “Seriously, City of Cleveland, you need to get over LeBron leaving. I know you feel betrayed because he said he would never leave but really!”

Beth said, “James left–yes–but this was just business and nothing else. And look, he helped bring Miami this far. He could have done a lot worse; and he's young and has a long time ahead of him to win a championship. So get over it, Cleveland.”

Yasnel said, “Cleveland needs to man up and stop crying. It's cold and disgusting up there; nothing to do besides freeze. Who wouldn't come to Miami and enjoy the nice weather and beautiful women!”

Tracy Morgan and the limits of comedy

Is it fair to condemn comedian Tracy Morgan for his anti-gay rant? Commentator Roland Martin points out that shock jocks are given a free pass for language that would bring a lawsuit in another context.

Many CNN.com readers said the problem was not so much what Morgan said, but how he said it. Oklahomo said, “I believe most protesters to Morgan's rants were clear about his tone being the issue; it was not joking at all but vile hatred spoken to an ignorant audience that thinks the same way." icka1975 said, "Exactly. It's all in the tone and delivery."

NickV1point0 said, “We're inclined to forgive the material if it's well written and actually makes us laugh. Morgan was plain hatred, pure form, unfiltered by funny. That's why he drew the reaction he did. We don't laugh at pure hate, we laugh if someone can turn that hate into humor."

19random35 said, “I'm a fan of Morgan's work on 30 Rock, but I've always thought his standup was pretty weak. If what he said was reported accurately, it seems pretty awful. I also know that jokes from some of my favorite comedians might look pretty awful on paper, too. But they use devices like irony to ridicule prejudices. It takes a skilled comic to navigate such risky material, and I think Morgan fails in this department."

willyd said, “I find it hard to believe that the person who listened to Morgan and later wrote about it went to the show not knowing what kind of a comedian Tracy Morgan is. I find his routines offensive, as I do those of many other comics. If you don't like it, don't complain to everyone about it. Just don't go."

But Gaucho420 was not so forgiving. "Would Roland find it funny, or acceptable, if a white man said he would lynch his son if he was black?" he asked. "Same difference, loser." Neutronium said, "He said some sick things. He apologized for saying those things. Moving on."

Former transit cop convicted in California subway shooting goes free

A former transit police officer was freed early after being convicted in the shooting death of an unarmed man on an Oakland, California, train platform.  Johannes Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter - after testifying that he accidentally shot Oscar Grant with a gun instead of a Taser in January 2009 - and was sentenced last year to two years in prison.  He was released Monday because California law gave him good conduct credit for days served.

Mehserle's release apparently revived arguments over whether the killing was an accident and whether Grant was resisting arrest or trying to calm his companions. thomasmc said, "See? Murder is OK, if you're a cop, and your victim is black."

johnnyhouse said, "You did not see the video before it was edited. He was resisting when the cop drew what was supposed to be a Taser. As soon as the cop fired the shot he looked at his partner and could not believe what he had just done. That video was shown first, and Grant was resisting on the original part of the early video. At first the cops started out to get them to move on and it picked up from there to the disaster that happened. No one will ever convince me that this is not the way it happened."

In another exchange, FutureLogic said, "Have you even watched the video? He was clearly subdued, and restrained when the shooting occurred." tkessler45 said, "I saw the video too, and there was a decent amount of commotion going on. As much as it could be seen as blatant murder, it could also be seen as a mistake."

Guest said, “Maybe it was an accident, but then you'd also have to call the cop a moron for not knowing the weight difference between a Glock and a Taser.”

ZooLife2 said, “You're far more likely to get murdered by someone like Grant than you are to get shot by someone like Mehserle. Grant had served two state prison terms for felony convictions.”

AGoodwin said, “Grant was the father of a 4-year-old girl and was considered a peacemaker. Moments before he was shot he was pleading with his friends who were all cuffed up to calm down and be cooperative with police. Grant was seen begging the police officers not to shoot. This is not a man who was out that night to kill or loot.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (222 Responses)
  1. Mad View

    Unless you're the owners or the players, it's just a game people.

    June 14, 2011 at 12:07 am | Report abuse |
  2. Jokersmile

    He's a punk plain and simple.

    June 14, 2011 at 12:20 am | Report abuse |
  3. Pinaki Mazum

    Though LeBron's performance was disappointingly below par in the Finals and vitriolic LBJ-bashing is somewhat understandable, but Mavericks were without a doublt a better team with tremendous offensive power that produced three pointers after three pointers that sank the confidence of the Heat, especially after losing the second game. Though Heat managed to regain their confidence by narrowly winning the third game, their inability to contain the bouyed and Ring-hungry Mavericks was quite obvious. Not having a seasoned coach in fiercely-contested Final matches was also part of Heat's problem. The old adage, Too many cooks spoil the broth, finally foiled the much-hyped LBJ-DW-CB triumvirate teaming to win the 2011 championship. Too many passes near the basket caused costly mistakes. Perhaps, by failing to sign up Fisher from Lakers and settling for Bibby instead, Heat lost the Final, as much Fisher lost a chance to add another ring by staying back in Lakers.

    June 14, 2011 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • randy

      so far,look how far he went!!!!!! its never over much love from ohio!!!

      June 14, 2011 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
  4. Cindy

    There are some thoughtful and intelligent comments listed about LeBron....and then there are the ones with nothing to say other than slam Cleveland. I guess when there's no way to defend another poor playoff performance by James it's necessary to take pointless shots at a city. Lame.

    June 14, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
  5. TonyStark

    LB & the Heat accomplished a lot this season. As badly as their season started, to get to the Finals in the 1st season w/ 85% of basketball fans rooting against them in the finals is impressive. Cleveland fans....How long will this soap opera last?

    June 14, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason Tellier

      I hope it lasts forever. I love seeing him pout on the court. He makes an ass out of himself constantly, should just keep his mouth shut and take it for he is only digging a deeper whole.

      June 14, 2011 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  6. robvanetta

    Are You Kidding .....Leave this guys alone....LeBron is NOT perfect and did not Excel in the Playoffs...I am sure he feels Bad enough for his Poor Performance...anytime you make a transition from one team to another people will not be happy..But switch places ........you would not do any better...

    June 14, 2011 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
  7. Jason

    Eh whatever. I rooted for Dirk this year because he was overdue for a championship win. Next year I will be rooting for Lebron to shut up all of these hypocrites. If you were offered a job at a better organization, for more pay, with a better chance to achieve your career goals, you would take it. Expecting anything else of another person (yes, even a sports star) is hypocritical.

    Overall, I love rooting for the players to John Q (stupid) Public hates for no logical reason. LeBron is not in legal trouble, he is not juiced, he is not a cheapshot artist (unlike some of the Lakers) and he works his butt off. In 2012 I hope the Heat wins it all and tells everyone to kiss off.

    June 14, 2011 at 1:28 am | Report abuse |
    • who

      uhhh he didn't get a better pay....

      June 14, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason Tellier

      It's not about him going to Miami. He danced on stage like an ass and like he is bigger than the game stated " I'm taking my talents to Miami" . So seeing this guy suffer makes it more fun. He will be on suicide watch by next season.

      June 14, 2011 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
  8. Ronny Gidlund

    The Dallas Team beat The Miami Un-Team!!

    June 14, 2011 at 1:28 am | Report abuse |
  9. fearlessdude

    I am sure LeBron makes more money than the CNN sniping brigade. Why can't you accept people for what they are? Humility for what? Maybe you guys had a bet going and you lost some money. Sorry about that.

    June 14, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  10. iMacker

    Go Macbs

    June 14, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  11. Jason Tellier

    If your a fan of Lebron James you will only live a life full of disappointment!!! This guy is a Joker. Magic Johnson even thinks he's a fool and states it on national television. Lebron sets himself up to be ridiculed ... when he just stops talking he might achieve his goals.. He can't deal with the pressure he puts on himself, never mind what others say about him.

    June 14, 2011 at 1:56 am | Report abuse |
  12. Me

    You can stop now.. I'm not buying it. Lol Now you're messing with a ... Son of a beeeyyyoottcchhh.... ? Yes? Lol

    June 14, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
  13. The voices

    Do it.. Nobody likes you.. Just do it..

    June 14, 2011 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
  14. Derelique

    LBJ needs to be more prideful, not humble. Kobe and MJ didn't get their bling by being nice guys.

    June 14, 2011 at 2:14 am | Report abuse |
  15. Joey

    Lebron is the new Reggie Miller. He will never be the new Jordan.

    June 14, 2011 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
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