Overheard on CNN.com: To be great, James needs humility
LeBron James reacts during Sunday's NBA Finals game against the Dallas Mavericks. Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki is at rear.
June 13th, 2011
07:34 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: To be great, James needs humility

Comment of the Day:

“It's not about him leaving Cleveland: players do that all the time. It is the manner in which he left and the ego he took into this season that makes it satisfying to see him fail hard in the championship. Kinda like when the Giants took down the 18-0 Patriots.”–rob

Clevelanders laughing as LeBron loses; in Dallas, perseverance pays off

It seems that LeBron James broke the hearts of many Cleveland fans when he moved on to play basketball for the Miami Heat. So Clevelanders were a mite gratified when Miami lost to the Dallas Mavericks in Game 6 of the NBA Finals on Sunday night. Many CNN.com readers said the issue was sportsmanship and not ability.

deb said, “Sportswriters get it. Players get it. If you put self-promotion above the game, you are not going to be well liked. Character still counts. Humility still counts. Lebron could be great, but he needs to chill out, figure out how to play with a team as a team and put away the cult of personality. He is potentially one of the greatest, but you can destroy talent without discipline. In any event, Dallas and Dirk worked for it, and worked together to win. Beautiful.”

Bobby said, “Whether Mavericks fans or not, all fans can appreciate winning with class, and all fans can appreciate those without class being humbled. The youth of today needed to see that those who think only about themselves are not often rewarded.”

r-hope said, “It boils down to one thing: humility. And LeBron doesn't know how to spell that. After losing, he was too proud to even congratulate the Mavs; that is what you do in sports. You acknowledge that the winning team did a better job. The day Lebron will learn to win and not thump his chest about it, or gloat over those who lose, that will be the day he becomes a real star.”

Many readers said it was time for Cleveland fans to let go of the past and move on. Steph said, “Seriously, City of Cleveland, you need to get over LeBron leaving. I know you feel betrayed because he said he would never leave but really!”

Beth said, “James left–yes–but this was just business and nothing else. And look, he helped bring Miami this far. He could have done a lot worse; and he's young and has a long time ahead of him to win a championship. So get over it, Cleveland.”

Yasnel said, “Cleveland needs to man up and stop crying. It's cold and disgusting up there; nothing to do besides freeze. Who wouldn't come to Miami and enjoy the nice weather and beautiful women!”

Tracy Morgan and the limits of comedy

Is it fair to condemn comedian Tracy Morgan for his anti-gay rant? Commentator Roland Martin points out that shock jocks are given a free pass for language that would bring a lawsuit in another context.

Many CNN.com readers said the problem was not so much what Morgan said, but how he said it. Oklahomo said, “I believe most protesters to Morgan's rants were clear about his tone being the issue; it was not joking at all but vile hatred spoken to an ignorant audience that thinks the same way." icka1975 said, "Exactly. It's all in the tone and delivery."

NickV1point0 said, “We're inclined to forgive the material if it's well written and actually makes us laugh. Morgan was plain hatred, pure form, unfiltered by funny. That's why he drew the reaction he did. We don't laugh at pure hate, we laugh if someone can turn that hate into humor."

19random35 said, “I'm a fan of Morgan's work on 30 Rock, but I've always thought his standup was pretty weak. If what he said was reported accurately, it seems pretty awful. I also know that jokes from some of my favorite comedians might look pretty awful on paper, too. But they use devices like irony to ridicule prejudices. It takes a skilled comic to navigate such risky material, and I think Morgan fails in this department."

willyd said, “I find it hard to believe that the person who listened to Morgan and later wrote about it went to the show not knowing what kind of a comedian Tracy Morgan is. I find his routines offensive, as I do those of many other comics. If you don't like it, don't complain to everyone about it. Just don't go."

But Gaucho420 was not so forgiving. "Would Roland find it funny, or acceptable, if a white man said he would lynch his son if he was black?" he asked. "Same difference, loser." Neutronium said, "He said some sick things. He apologized for saying those things. Moving on."

Former transit cop convicted in California subway shooting goes free

A former transit police officer was freed early after being convicted in the shooting death of an unarmed man on an Oakland, California, train platform.  Johannes Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter - after testifying that he accidentally shot Oscar Grant with a gun instead of a Taser in January 2009 - and was sentenced last year to two years in prison.  He was released Monday because California law gave him good conduct credit for days served.

Mehserle's release apparently revived arguments over whether the killing was an accident and whether Grant was resisting arrest or trying to calm his companions. thomasmc said, "See? Murder is OK, if you're a cop, and your victim is black."

johnnyhouse said, "You did not see the video before it was edited. He was resisting when the cop drew what was supposed to be a Taser. As soon as the cop fired the shot he looked at his partner and could not believe what he had just done. That video was shown first, and Grant was resisting on the original part of the early video. At first the cops started out to get them to move on and it picked up from there to the disaster that happened. No one will ever convince me that this is not the way it happened."

In another exchange, FutureLogic said, "Have you even watched the video? He was clearly subdued, and restrained when the shooting occurred." tkessler45 said, "I saw the video too, and there was a decent amount of commotion going on. As much as it could be seen as blatant murder, it could also be seen as a mistake."

Guest said, “Maybe it was an accident, but then you'd also have to call the cop a moron for not knowing the weight difference between a Glock and a Taser.”

ZooLife2 said, “You're far more likely to get murdered by someone like Grant than you are to get shot by someone like Mehserle. Grant had served two state prison terms for felony convictions.”

AGoodwin said, “Grant was the father of a 4-year-old girl and was considered a peacemaker. Moments before he was shot he was pleading with his friends who were all cuffed up to calm down and be cooperative with police. Grant was seen begging the police officers not to shoot. This is not a man who was out that night to kill or loot.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (222 Responses)
  1. t

    Lebron James knows exactly what he is doing. All of this stuff is going on according to plan. We must hate him then love him again so he can truly be great. It happens to every artist, athlete , and any other person going for superstardom. That's like the requirement now. The media is amazing. Ran under the control of the most powerful force on earth.

    " Life is a story, We are its characters." Most humans have know idea whats really going on. So sad

    June 14, 2011 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Megatron BinLaden Red Dragon Team Rocket Pokemon Champion

      Yesssssss.... All according to plan... Arharhar!

      June 14, 2011 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
  2. LeBron

    Bali Mangthi Kali Ma. [Sacrifice is what Mother Kali desires] Shakthi Degi Kali Ma. [Power is what Mother Kali will grant] Kali ma... Kali ma... Kali ma, shakthi deh! [Mother Kali... Mother Kali... Mother Kali, give me power!]

    June 14, 2011 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
  3. YouKidnme

    I'll translate from White America to Black America: To be great, LeBron, just needs to learn "his place."

    June 14, 2011 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
    • david

      you are the racist one, comparing a multimillionaire to anyone who has felt racism is purely infantile, and ignorant. grow up . you actually think he is being targeted because of his color? really. the guy is clearly very, very arrogant and could care less abput the fans , who pay his salary by buying tickets and merchandise ,

      June 14, 2011 at 5:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Opinionated

      Finally a victory for whites, and for Germany! Not just Dirk, either. Now if we can just replace Obama.

      June 14, 2011 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Ignorant post

      June 14, 2011 at 7:45 am | Report abuse |
  4. YouKidnme

    Why no fuss over the steroid use by Lance Armstrong... wow!

    June 14, 2011 at 3:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Manoman

      This is America all we care about are our sports. In the words of Bill Mahr "no one cares" LOL na but seriously some one should look into that. America is funny

      June 14, 2011 at 6:28 am | Report abuse |
  5. josh

    I think he is a good man. no one is perfect

    June 14, 2011 at 4:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Opinionated

      How do you have any clue?

      June 14, 2011 at 6:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      What hole did you climb out of?

      June 14, 2011 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  6. Big Deal..

    Humility.. didn't Pippen recently said that Lebron could be better than Jordan, and Lebron squashed that?, that sounds like humility to me, at least not arrogance... If the Heat would've won the finals, this report wouldn't have came up. Shame on you CNN.

    June 14, 2011 at 4:56 am | Report abuse |
  7. kuku

    Can someone help me understand about this lebron james drama? Lebron played for cleveland for seven years and took that frachise from winning a few games to a play off team even to an nba finals. Ok, now, he has decided to move on and what is wrong with that? was lebron supposed to comit him self to cleveland for the rest of his life for the sake of cliveland fans? Is that what i am hearing? why is this a big deal when lebron wants to leave cleveland and play for any team he wants to play? is'nt that his RIGHT???

    June 14, 2011 at 5:10 am | Report abuse |
  8. biglou64

    It really comes down to this. You pro basketball players take a ball and put it in a whoop. You get paid millions of dollars for this and you walk around like you've found the cure for cancer. Put what you do in perspective, it's not that important and neither are you.

    June 14, 2011 at 5:10 am | Report abuse |
    • attttt

      My sentiments exactly, I am not a sports enthusiasts but I am not understanding the problem with him going to whatever team he chooses. The last time I checked this was America.

      June 14, 2011 at 6:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Haven't bought an NBA ticket in 10 years. Feed good causes instead of bad ones.

      June 14, 2011 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  9. Azadex

    Lebron play selflessly when on the court and usually shun roomers and stuff like that, unlike most NBA stars. I tend to think it's his weakness. Had he not depended on his team mates too much, he could have probably pulled a championship. But this nonsense about him needing humility is from people who wish no more than to see him walk with his head down and know his place...in other words marginalized.

    June 14, 2011 at 6:09 am | Report abuse |
  10. JazzyLee

    Here's what I think of Lebron James:

    http://jazzyleemccray.blogspot.com/2011/06/lebron-james-to-world-suck-it.html

    June 14, 2011 at 6:10 am | Report abuse |
  11. Siesta Key

    Basketball season is over......leave Lebron alone! I left Cleveland because it is a terrible place to live, with a bunch of red neck racist. The governor is just like our Florida governor....and idiot.

    June 14, 2011 at 6:15 am | Report abuse |
  12. Manoman

    Racism still exist and it may seem hard to believe for white ppl that blatant racism still exist. In the world of the minority it is still abundant. Ive been a victim of racism several times and witnessed it on many occasions and I am in my 20's. I will say this I will feel safer with a so called thug around my woods than a white cop. This is the reality of things, and as far fetched it may be this is real. You cannot understand our logic if you are not us. For example how come the killer that shot up all those ppl in Arizona and that Gifford lady is standing trial and you have ppl like grant shot dead, Diallo shot dead(years ago cops mistaken a wallet for a gun Wyclef made a song about it), and other cases. They pick and choose.

    June 14, 2011 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |
  13. debeezi

    they dont know anything about the illuminati kasey, so dont waste ur time. anyway guys lebron is apart of and a major worker and recruiter 4 them. he made friends with ohio state quarterback terel pryor and soon after.... well look at terels mantality, but he wont b the last, keep researching folks r jus keep paying attn 2 life ull c. thx

    June 14, 2011 at 6:36 am | Report abuse |
  14. Obi

    What a society we live in where people are so much more infatuated in someone's loss than on another team's history-making victory! Why are people so engrossed in negative news rather than on positive, uplifting news?? Why all the hate on Lebron? The whole Miami Heat team lost, not just Lebron! Why is Cleveland rejoicing in his failure, even though they had the worst record in regular season and didn't even come close to being in the playoffs? At least Lebron & the Heat organization are the Eastern Conference champions!

    June 14, 2011 at 7:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Generally I agree. But sometimes you need to call it out to curb bad behavior.

      June 14, 2011 at 7:53 am | Report abuse |
  15. Thenextstep

    I don't know who Labron is, but he sounds A LOT like TIGER WOODS. They both could use more humbling.

    June 14, 2011 at 7:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Big money breeds big EGO

      June 14, 2011 at 7:53 am | Report abuse |
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