Oregon's Portland Water Bureau is draining an 8 million-gallon reservoir after surveillance cameras caught a man urinating into it this week.
The move will cost the water bureau $35,000 - $28,000 in lost revenue and $7,500 in disposal costs, CNN affiliate KATU-TV reports.
Is that worth it when the urine involved is really a drop in the bucket?
Scientifically, no, said Dave Stone, an assistant professor of toxicology at Oregon State University, who spoke to The Oregonian newspaper about the, er, leak.
"How many animals are doing that or birds?" Stone asked. "I don't want to second-guess the city, but I can't think of anything chemically that would have me be concerned."
Dr. Gary Oxman, a Multnomah County health officer, also told The Oregonian: "The health risk associated with that is really, really tiny."
A healthy bladder holds up to 16 ounces of urine, according to the National Institutes of Health.
Water bureau administrator David Shaff told KATU it's not about the science.
"There are people who will say it’s an overreaction,” he said. “I don’t think so. I think just dealing with the ‘yuck factor,’ I can imagine how many people would be saying, ‘I made orange juice with that water this morning. That’s not what I want to hear.’ ”
And City Commissioner Randy Leonard told CNN affiliate KGW-TV that the water in the Mount Tabor reservoir is chlorinated before it enters the reservoir.
"The water that's in the reservoir that you see is literally the water that you drink," Leonard said.
Sgt. Pete Simpson of the Portland Police Bureau told KGW the whole mess didn't have to be.
"It's really an unfortunate incident that probably could have been avoided had he chosen a bush," Simpson said.
and what if he has full brown AIDS ...
Dude, AIDS is easy to kill. Get it hot, cool it down, hit it with chemicals, anything. To catch it you have to directly pass fluids at body temp. If it was all over a toilet seat and you sat in it, it would probably have cooled off and died in the minute or two before you sat down. It's almost impossible to catch AIDS. You have to try really hard.
Nothing, it can't live outside the body in plain old water. It would be only a few seconds before it was dead. What a waste of water.
It would not matter. Public Health 101. A bird poop has a higher risk. Foolish waste of money.
Even if he did have AIDS, the chances of catching it from the water after he took a leak in the reservoir is, effectively, zero. First, HIV is a relatively fragile virus. Second, it's not concentrated in the urine. Third, it was, maybe, 16 ounces (that's roughly a large coffee worth) in 8 MILLION GALLONS of water. We're talking a dilution of what, 64 million to 1? Realistically, the only reason to dump the water is a yuck factor. Which really isn't a reason at all.
Yeah,watch out for the brown aids.
Full Brown Aids? Is that what they call the Hershey Squirts these days?
Nothing. AIDS, contrary to popular belief, is not transmitted by a virus (or anything else that could enter the water source in such a way).
Whoever decided to drain the reservoir is more dangerous that the man who urinated in it. Terminally stupid
you don't kill AIDS, in fact it isn't even alive! HIV is easy to kill, unless it is already inside of you of course...
@DrFill – I'm always interested in unique viewpoints...how do you think AIDS is spread and con you point me to some science supporting your ideas?
why don't they just get the guy's DNA and make him pay for the treatment? Our leaders lack such common sense these days!
Not possible.
Eight MILLION gallons. You find the DNA in it for us, ok? Also I dropped a contact in there, pick it up for me.
Common sense and a little education would tell you that suggesting they obtain a man's DNA from 16 ounces of urine, that has been dilluted in millions of gallons of water isn't likely. Even if they could, then what... enter the DNA sequence in the CSI type DNA database that doesn't exist to get the offenders name and address? Or maybe do a cheap(sarcasm) DNA swab and sequence the entire city to compare against the offenders DNA?
Comeon man, THINK!
*shakes head*
contact lenses are disposable, DNA is NOT.
the decline of the US is so sad... think outside of the box people. his DNA could be on the fence he scaled to get into the place, or on some empty beer bottles nearby, heck publsh the pictures and maybe someone will recognize him. You people need to read more science books.
Sorry Brain – you’ve been watching too much CSI. This is another case of incompetent public official wasting taxpayers’ money.
UR-IN-IDIOT
"You people need to read more science books." Yes, Brian, all that CSI stuff you see on tv is perfectly true and you can ALWAYS find usable DNA on sidewalks or nearby beer bottles. Heck, if your DNA is found near a crime scene you are automatically convicted. Watch less tv and read a book yourself maybe?
They need to have abetter system for delivery, but that guy should pay. What a jerk, a**wipe.
Libs are stupid.
I'd rather be known as stupid than known for killing 1 million people in an illegal war in Iraq, and creating 2 million refugees at a cost of over $30,000 per American family.
"I never drink water. Fish make love in it, you know." – W.C Fields
and what if he has full blown AIDS ...
They work at restaurants.
Nothing Phil, it can't live outside the body in plain old water. It would be only a few seconds before it was dead. What a waste of water.
Speaking of restaurants..... you get more germs from those workers than a little pee in a reservoir.
We're all missing the bigger point here. If this moron is able to pee in the water, what about cyanide or another poison getting poured in.
No BJ"s in Oregon??
Thats one part in ten billion!
Why dont we get mad at the retard who took a leak in the water in the first place...
Think .
You do know what bears do in the woods dont you?
This is just stupid, I used to work as a water quality engineer in Australia – and these water supplies are absolutely -massive- – heck in all water catchment areas (where the water runs off from into your reservoir!) they are full of animals doing what animals doing – thats perfectly normal.
That why we measure water quality specifically for E-Coli to see how much of it there is (the stuff from your gut, you know, and yes – the same stuff that in very concentrated dose killed 15 Germans last week) which kills E-Coli (and other bugs) dead. Actually thats a slight over-simplification as water treatment actually involves several filtration stages, chlorination (fluoridation, if you are lucky enough to have that – or unlucky if you watches Dr. Strangeglove abit too often..! Ahem!); plus some systems also use UV light or Ozone for sterilisation as well..
[The real concern from Chlorine is not the chemical itself – but there was some research that if there was alot of green plant matter that it could react with that and produce trace amounts of a some not so nice chemicals].
You then measure the water quality post chlorination when its in a holding tank (which is more likely to be covered, but not always either) and get your water then delivered to your tap..!
So even for the squeamish – 16 ounces / 128 ounces per gallon / 8 million gallons ~ 0.01 ppm
This is completely nuts, and in the middle of a drought..???
Many reservoirs actually now allow domestic boating on them (as they are so large, and even if someone DOES go to the loo, at scale – so what..?)
Stuuuuupid!
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
They don't have nothing on US.
my dad always told me drinking a little pee in your OJ puts hair on your chest
What did he say about your palms ?
What a waste of money...... Fish fart in this, birds poop in it, all kinds of animals do heaven knows what in it.... Whoever made the decision to drain the reservoir is an idiot. These are the people running our towns and cities and making important decisions ...... scary.
and what if he has full blown AIDS, doctor, who thinks of everything – didja think really hard and long on EVERYTHING ...
If he had AIDs and peed into cold water it would die. Are you in grade school not to know that?
You really are an idiot, aren't you Phil ?
A little pee is nothing. You know what bears do in the woods?
Would they construct a new reservoir if it was a poop
How about a Baby Ruth bar?