Overheard on CNN.com: Sympathy and scorn for Dunn
"Jackass" star Ryan Dunn died in a car accident early Monday.
June 21st, 2011
05:11 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Sympathy and scorn for Dunn

Comment of the day:

“Congratulations to all the trash talkers! You are now officially...Jacka$$es! How does it feel?” –Vivalabetsy

More than a 'Jackass'

Ebert makes anti-drunk driving tweet

The death of Ryan Dunn, one of the stars of MTV's "Jackass" films and TV series, in a car crash on a Pennsylvania highway early Monday has ignited a public debate— thanks in part to film critic Roger Ebert, who tweeted, “Friends don’t let jackasses drink and drive.” So was Dunn a reckless stunt man who died in a fiery crash that could have been avoided or a man who simply and tragically died too young?

CNN.com readers were divided.

thekissinger said, “My, aren't we quick to condemn with so few facts. A person has died, his family and friends care right now, and anything else we type should be with those thoughts in mind.” parise said, “Fact: he posted pictures of himself drinking before he drove home. Fact: alcohol inhibits ability to drive.” M0reHuman said, “Fact: He posted a picture of himself with ONE drink. According to current state laws that is legal.” amcdonal86 said, “FACT! His car was completely mangled in a way that only a 100+ mph crash could cause!” Kayakker98 said, “Opinion: He looks hammered in the pic.” mmmikey responsed, “Parise.....pictures of him drinking WHAT? What was in the cup? Do you know? Of course you don't. Ignorant is as ignorant does.”

radgast said, “Most here have driven over the drinking limit, few could say otherwise, whether speed, drinking, or bad luck. His death and the other death are unfortunate and if he could speak I am certain his life would be the last of the concerns when thinking about his passenger and family he left behind.”

norcalmojo asked, “What are you expecting? Adulation? The guy was famous for being an idiot and will now be a little more famous for dying an idiot. If the fact that he's a Darwin award upsets you, wipe your nose. If it makes you feel any better, he died an entertainer. I laughed when I read the story. I laughed again at the fools trying to memorialize him. If you don't want to be remembered for being an idiot, don't make it your profession.”

rsknnp said, “Just because Ryan MAY have made a poor choice does not make his death any less sad. It's still a loss to his friends, to his family, and to the people who enjoyed his humor and appreciated the laughter he brought into the world. I wish they would have added why he was on Minute to Win it with Steve-o. They were both on the show to split the winnings and donate it to their respective charities for children.

If doing one bad thing or making one poor choice completely cancels out every other good thing a person has done, then every human on this earth is a waste of space because everyone out there has done something wrong. RIP Ryan Dunn.”

Aetna7011 said, “To make the jump from "he was having a drink with buddies" to "HE WAS DRIVING DRUNK AND KILLED AN INNOCENT PERSON AND IS A HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING" is a massive exercise in conjecture and ultimately idiocy.”

russpro82 said, “Even after two beers your reaction time is slowed down. That coupled with excessively high speeds is a recipe for disaster. It's pretty sad and I feel for his family and friends (I had a close friend drive drunk and die in a car accident, so believe me....I know). But let's not forget he killed his passenger too.”

tmac1987 said, “Regardless if he partook in idiotic pranks or not, the point remains that Ryan Dunn is dead. He died at a very young age, and he had much more life to live. Maybe he was intoxicated or maybe not, we can speculate until the end of time. Remember people, we are all human, and one day our number will be called. Ryan lived his life to the fullest. He made people laugh! How many people can say they made an impact on someone’s life?”

Bring them home, Mr. President

President Barack Obama will address the nation Wednesday night to discuss a plan that would pull 30,000 “surge” forces out of Afghanistan by the end of 2012, beginning in July. But many CNN.com readers were skeptical about the plan being executed, said the number of troops coming home wasn’t enough or believe that Obama has merely begun campaigning.

CWMessenger said, “I will end the wars and bring our troops home in 2009...2010...2011...2012. Lots of empty promises is what I see.” TheFinalWerd said, “I heard endpoints too....during campaigning, during his election speech, during his midterm report and now during his campaign for re-election.”

Slag asked, “”Didn't Obama say he would be out of Libya in days, not weeks and we were only there to establish a "no fly zone"? Now I'm supposed to believe this..........really?” But TTHa responded, “We are technically "out" of Libya. We are strictly operating as a support role for the European forces. Our Armed Forces are not on Libyan lands nor flying over Libyan lands. (Drones not counting.)"

Puzzled77 said, “Please Mr. Obama. Bring all the troops home now. It’s been so long.” MatarLaRaza said, “What about the "other" 70,000?” franx asked, “Why not pull out completely? Pointless war, especially now that Osama's dead. One guaranteed way a Republican could steal my vote would be an 'end the war' stance. That'll never happen.”

CmmnSnsRulz responded, “Ron Paul has an ‘end all wars’ stance and 24 years on Congressional record of backing it up.”

Liberal212 said, “Obama's troop pullout = 2012 election gimmick.” gravitas73 said, “Too little too late, pal. You've already lost my vote. This is a political play and I'm not buying into it.” SFactory said, “Obama on the campaign trail as usual – unless he is on vacation." But crazyutahn said, “Anyone who says Obama is doing this for the polls think about this. If he wanted to be re-elected, he would have waited to kill Osama bin Laden until right before election time. Too bad none of you Republicans remember George Bush pulling that with Saddam Hussein.”

Some readers said they support Obama’s plan.

IanA1 said, “At last, a President that has actual entry and endpoint goals. You can't run a strategy without such.” MollyBee said, “President Obama is doing well over there in the huge mess created when Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld went berserk over WMDs that didn't exist.” opus512 said, “No matter what Obama does or when he does it, critics will use it against him. Even when he does something they support, they'll still criticize him for it. Going too far, not going far enough, the only thing that matters is Obama is the one doing it.”

New cigarette labels

Nine graphic cigarette warning labels were unveiled Tuesday by the Food and Drug Administration, part of the agency's sweeping new powers to regulate tobacco and tobacco products, and CNN.com readers had plenty to say about it.

Jamalrehtorb said, “As an ex-smoker, I think this is great. Trying to quit is very, very hard and you need all the motivation possible.” jimmymax said, “Canada has been doing this for at least 10-15 years, and it hasn't really had any measurable effect. People are quitting anyway, regardless of all these gimmicks. The only gimmick that has had any real effect is when the price keeps increasing.”

wallster said, “Where do we draw the line? Will I be looking at a photo of a diabetic kidney while I'm eating my morning bowl of cereal soon? It shouldn't take a grotesque photo to scare someone into not smoking you just need a tiny grain of common sense.”

blue175 said, “Now only if they put pictures of clogged arteries and colon cancer on Big Mac boxes, maybe we would have lower obesity as well.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (162 Responses)
  1. JayG2525

    I think that we should admit that we have all drank before, and have gotten behind a wheel. Furthermore, we've done this more than once in our lifetime.

    Personally, I believe this guy was a big drinker, and I believe he was a regular user of drugs. Rich guy + partying your face off + fast car = death. Come on, this isn't the first time that something like this happened folks.

    Let's face it. These guys are KNOWN TO BE OUT OF CONTROL. That's why they're famous, and that's why one of them has just died.

    RIP Ryan Dunn

    June 22, 2011 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • xman

      There should be ZERO sympathy for anyone who knowingly gets drunk and then willingly gets behind the wheel. Had he killed someone before dying himself, we'd be there, wouldn't we? But, fortunately, he killed himself and the other d1psh_1t who was riding with him. If this helps protect the streets from future drunk driving claiming innocent lives, then one can argue it was Darwin at work, and let the stupidity, no matter how violent in its useless existence, be cleared out on its own. The world is a better place now. Yea, it is.

      August 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ella

      Um...no. Not all of us have gotten drunk then driven. Sorry that you're enough of an idiot to do that,...then admit it. I don't need alcohol to have a good time. Neither does my boyfriend or my friends when they're around me. We are not sad enough to drink in order to have fun.

      August 26, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Clockwork

    I really feel for the families, but if you're driving 140mph while intoxicated, it's better that you're permanently off the road. If this accident didn't happen, it could have been your car with your kids in it that he crashed into next time. And the fact that he was a habitual speeder, reckless driver, and already had a DUI makes it hard to feel overly sad about the whole thing.

    June 23, 2011 at 8:52 am | Report abuse |
  3. Not a Mavs Fan

    What amazes me is the story just printed about this situation neglected to mention his .20 blood alcohol content once his body was tested at the hospital. So, it was probably a bit higher before he died. This is over twice the state's DWI level. He wasn't just speeding; had his car had wings, he'd been in the air, travelling in excess of 135 mph. And, he had a passenger.

    Yes. I feel sorry for his family and friends, that he died in such a way as to bruise their hearts and minds for the rest of their lives. He was obviously not thinking of them or his passenger. I am sorry he died young, but I will not eulogize such a wasted life and such idiocy as though he were a wonderful person. This wasn't his first screw-up; he had a long list. Perhaps his tragic end will save another life from doing the same thing. Perhaps someone will read that story and realize the stupidity in combining alcohol and speed and thoughtlessness. I pray so.

    June 23, 2011 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  4. Cronan

    Ryan Dunn killed in car crash – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdWWLPPTr-k

    June 23, 2011 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  5. Steve

    Pretty shocking people try to defend and excuse this idiot just because he was in a couple of idiotic movies. Guess what.....he was driving drunk at twice the legal limit moving at 140 mph and killed his passenger doing so. The man is a criminal and thank god he died before he took out way more than one innocent person. To hell with this rest in peace crap. I feel sorry for his familys loss but happy that he's gone.

    June 25, 2011 at 3:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Julie


      August 2, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • intothefire

      julie, how is he an idiot? insensitive maybe but not an idiot

      August 13, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Maria Mercer

    Whooo caresssssss.....he loves his kind of crazy life ...who cares anyway?

    June 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  7. blahblahblah

    jack@$$ died from doing jack@$$ things. woop-dee-doo. why do I need to know this guy's dead? thanks cnn.

    June 26, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
  8. Karen

    I am so sad that people feel the need to trash this man. He is dead. You cant hurt him. Your words only tear at the hearts of people who loved the man.Grow up and I pray that you learn compassion.

    June 26, 2011 at 3:15 am | Report abuse |
  9. saaly

    and this is news why???

    June 28, 2011 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
  10. kpete

    I say with pride I have never driven severely under the influence of anything. The most i've ever had and drove was ONE drink. Not even a buzz. It's extremely sad that 2 more people are victims of drunk driving, but it doesn't put a blanket over the fact that people who think they are invincible and drive drunk are 1) idiots and 2) extremely dangerous to anyone who comes near their vehicle. I read an article where Bam Margera said "I just don't think it should have been him." Well of course it shouldn't have been him. Just like it shouldn't have been any of the people who die in these types of situations ESPECIALLY the sober drivers struck and killed by people like Ryan Dunn who decide to take their life as well as everyone else's on the road into their hands.

    June 29, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Julie


      August 2, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • intothefire

      ur suggesting having more questions than answers is wisdom? we're not having a philo debate with socrates or plato so go back to philo 101 where people give a turd about ur ability to reiterate other peoples statements

      August 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Raptor

    The person that said, "FACT! His car was completely mangled in a way that only a 100+ mph crash could cause!” is WAY off-base and doesn't seem to know much about cars. The car he was driving (Porsche 911 GT3) has a body made entirely of caarbon fiber, which would crumple the way it did in a wreck even at much lower speeds. That car wasn't made for safety.

    July 6, 2011 at 8:52 am | Report abuse |
  12. Shawn

    My little brother and two sisters died in a car accident. My mother was driving through a green light and was t-boned by a suburban going 55. She survived with minor cuts and bruises and hasn't full recovered the emotional damage of losing three of her children. The man driving the vehicle was at .09 just barely over the drinking limit and had only had one drink that evening. He is serving three consecutive 10 year sentences for his crime which is also sad because he just made a dumb decision. So stop with the "He only had one drink" or the "everyone has done it" the fact is that wether thoughtless or intentional we pay for our decisions and the sad fact is that others pay also. If your an idiot and you get yourself killed thats one thing but if your an idiot and you get three kids killed thats different.

    The fact is you can't know which of those two will happen. And you aren't risking just your own life but someone elses as well. Thats not your right to do.

    July 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
  13. JayInCa

    Its tragic that it happened. What an idiot though, I guess its just a good thing that he didnt kill some family or something in a head on...

    August 2, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
  14. michael flannery

    stupid is as stupid does. too bad more of the worlds idiots dont kill themselves. the world would be a better place.

    August 22, 2011 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  15. Ness

    I think anyone who drinks then gets behind the wheel of a car and drives then has an accident and kills the other driver should be charged with murder. They knew the possibilities of drinking and driving therefore it is not an involuntary act.

    August 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
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