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Gotta Watch: Judging Casey Anthony case
It's the capital murder case that's held our attention this summer. But has the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony intentionally murdered her daughter? The jury is beginning their deliberations today, and now it's your chance to weigh in. You've gotta watch the most pivotal moments from the defense and prosecution and judge for yourself whether Casey Anthony is guilty or innocent.
Prosecuting Casey Anthony – The state of Florida contends Casey Anthony cared more about partying and having a fun life than being a mother. It's her motive for murder, according to prosecutors. They paint her as a liar trying to live the good life at the expense of her daughter.
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Defending Casey Anthony – The defense brought molestation allegations against Casey Anthony's father and brother during the trial. It pointed to George Anthony as the real culprit behind the toddler's death and cover-up. Most importantly, Casey Anthony's defense team relied upon the fact that Caylee Anthony's cause of death is undetermined. It believes that's the real reason there's not enough evidence to convict the Florida mother of murder.
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How could anyone find this being, masquerading as a loving mother, innocent? Lies upon lies. She ridded herself of this child. Let us rid the judicial and prison system of her.
i believe that someone close to her murdered Caylee. There is no doubt of that but really there is no clear evidence that links her death to her mother. There is no DNA or finger prints linking Casey directly to the murder other then the speculation of all of the evidence provided in the trial. Yes maybe it looks that her mother killed her but do they actually have solid evidence that it was Casey who murdered her other then the theory of what the prosecution claims. If I were on the jury I'd have to fight that fact against a guilty verdict. I also don't feel that the death sentence is the corrective action for this or is the right choice either as ending Casey's life will leave the blood of her on those of the jury that sentence her. Two wrongs don't make a right as far as I'm concerned. Just my opinion.
The only verdict possible based on rule of law and logic is not guilty.
2nd degree, nothing more. My whole block agrees. Shoddy prosecutors.
Unbelievable! First you let OJ off because we ll know he was not guilty-now you actually can convince yourself that this wretched woman is innocent. So while her daughter was missing for 31 days she... what..was overcome with grief.. oh no sorry she was out looking for her daughter in the neighbourhood bars.
Give your head a shake. The defence was throwing one red herring after another and seemingly it worked. so sad
this case shows us why you don't have kids if you can't take care of them and love them
I think that all that needs to really be said in the end and important for the jury to always remember is kind of simple......"The child......
A 3 YR OLD ADORABLE BABY GIRL" was missing for a month.....a MONTH.....and Casey did nothing!" If my baby girl was missing for 30 minutes I would already be a inconsolable mess using every means to find my child. I think most mothers in this world feel the same....You don't just keep it to yourself and look for the child herself for 30 days(while taking time out to party) .My god..... in my eyes that in itself is an admission of guilt .I did not follow this story at all before the trial....I have based my simple to the point opinion based on trial evidence....
I am a father of 4- 2 boy's 2 girls, so i am able to speak from the heart of a parent. This young lady deserves what ever she get's ( I hope death). Cause that will means we will pay for her to sit in jail for about 25 years. Anything less will be a shame. That little Caylee did not stand a chance with her mom. When you decide to become a parent you are to change your life for the better of you kids. NOT FOR YOURSELF. Shame on her ...SHE Deserves death nothing less...Ty
I just think the nation is bored. No Football, no one outside of NY and Boston cares anything about Baseball anymore, Basketball season is over, NASCAR is a popularity contest. People are tired of the wars, the Republicans have no one running that anyone likes. This is the worst time of the yr usually, it's also why so many wimpy crimes take place, kids are bored also.
With that being said, I have tuned into a lot of this trial also, and here's my thoughts. I do think Casey was abused as a child, but there have been way too many lies by many people to sentence her to death. You can't get back a death, and there has been way too many lies, crappy police work, I don't believe anything anyone in that Anthony family has ever said. So i would throw away the key send her to jail for life, because she clearly did it, but not the death penalty in this case.
Casey was no way abused as a child!!!! A convenient excuse as all her other lies were discovered. The sad thing is you are all buying that story-she is a sociopath not a victim get real
My thoughts on this case haven't changed much over time. Toward the end of the trial however, I thought it became less and less likely that the death of Caylee was an accident. initially I believed it was probably just horrible parenting. Making a really bad choice to use cloroform to put a child to sleep so she could go out, possibly taping the mouth and putting her in a trunk while she went off. Now however, watching the the aunt come forward to talk about how Casey was stealing money from the grandfather in the nursing home, putting that together with the fact Casey had no job, and was mostly being supported by parents. I feel now that she probably snapped when she had the arguement with her mom. She wasn't interested in going back home more than likely. She had no money coming from the nursing home or care from her mother for caylee, she had no way to support a child, and no where to go. She wanted to go back to her single life, ... it just seems so likely in a moment of emotional breakdown that she probably purposely killed her daughter.
I can't understand how someone could do that, and I resisted that notion, but so many of the things that were talked about really seem to point that direction.
Stop making excusses for her. She is an adult who needs ot take responsibility for her own actions. She is a murderer.
There is no hard evidence. The jury should say not guilty for the killing of her. BUT there is many things like child abuse, child neglect, and many other things but not murder
Watched the whole trial from start to finish hoping the state could prove their case. They didn't in my eyes. Totally not guilty if I was on the jury.
I do believe this jury is smart enough to know that this was accidental... VERDICT...3rd degree manslaughter
I don't see a first degree/death penalty case. It was pure speculation and it just had too many unanswered questions. As part of the judicial system, prosecution put forth a lot of hype and tried to make the pieces of the puzzle fit. I hope the jurors can see past all of this and make them try again.
I am absolutely with you on this. I'm not sure what some of the posters don't understand about "reasonable doubt".
Here two scenarios of two women in this country U.S.
A-She is a murderer that has an abortion because she do not want responsibility for their child and she is protected by law because of the legalization of abortion .- No trial
B-She is a murderer, that desided she do no want reponsabilite because she want have fun, But parents raised without positive choices, no good influency – Is judged
I would like be to analyze these two scenarios
The prosecution failed to provide when the child died or by whose hand. This case does not even satisfy the test for manslaughter. At best, they have gross negligence, child endagerment and obstruction. I hope the jurors don't let their emotions get the better of them.
Nothing was presented to me showing that she actually murdered her daughter. Maybe she did, but only her and God know that and if I was on the jury, based on the evidence presented, I would have to vote not guilty on the murder, aggravated child abuse, manslaughter charges. Guilty on lying to police officers.
I need to put in my 2 cents. I also was a paralegal (25 yrs) 10 of them for a Judge in NY until he passed away. I feel sorry, and don't get angry, for Jose Bias because he had nothing to work with only the latest Casey lie about her father. I remember teaching new lawyers right out of law school how to file papers in court because there is so much they don't learn in law school. Bias is only a 6 year atty and this is his first big case, a first case in front of tv and the whole world. Except for the drowning defense, what else could he say to try to defend her – NOTHING! Even if this was an accident Casey would never admit it. I also feel sorry for those jurors – did you listen to the Judge's instructions. After listening for weeks to all those witnesses and all the scientific evidence, those instructions are sure to confuse and make them argue with each other. Hopefully they will come to the right decision.
All you people saying she should not be fried for KILLING HER CHILD...are you out of your minds? She did it! If your kid drown in a pool...would u go out and party it up, not to mention not report it???????????? Are you people out of your minds? How could anyone have sympathy for this woman? It's a shame that so much time and money has been wasted on this trial. She's guilty. She needs to die a slow torturous death.
Im right there with you Rene!!!!! they need to put her to sleep for good just like she did that beautiful little girl!!!!
How do you know she did it? And don't give me that 31 days crap!
Please point to the evidence that shows, WITHOUT DOUBT, that she murdered her daughter.
Hoosier is right on this.
Rene, I couldn't agree more. Casey Anthony is as guilty as the sky is blue. This whole case boils down to just plain common sense. Who doesn't call 911 when they find their child floating in a pool, then put duct tape over the child's nose/mouth then dump the body in a swamp. There's not one even remote chance this supposed accidental drowning occured. Then you have a young woman out partying, shopping and no inkling of anything wrong and is lying to everyone about their child's whereabouts. There's only one answer, Casey killed her child either purposefully or by accidentt. Either way, the penalty for both those more likely scenarios holds the possibility of the death sentence. As the Ashton talked about felony murder by aggravated child abuse, that could be if she put duct tape over the child's mouth or used chloroform or both to just quiet the child but the child accidently died, thats felony murder. I'm not sure why so many people say there are so many unanswered questions, while that may be true for some of the small less important facts but the big picture is obvious, the child ended up dead and her mother was responsible, there is no one else that had the opportunity or motive.
Renee, I agree with you that anyone who kills a child, let alone their own child deserves to be punished very severely! The problem here is that the prosecution failed to prove that a murder happened. There is no way to know if the baby died accidentally or deliberately. No way to know when it happened. No way to know if it was at her own mother's hand or someone else's. Guilty of Not? God only knows, The fact remains that the state failed to make a solid case for murder. Having said that, a competent juror would have to decide in her favor and on the count of capital murder, rule 'not guilty'. I'm sure they'll get her on some of the lesser stuff..
Hoosierkerry, you like many people do not understand the meaning of beyond a reasonable doubt. It does NOT mean without ANY doubt. Beyond a reasonable doubt is something that is very convincing, beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does NOT mean that no doubt exists as to the accused guilt.
Oh Renee, how do you know she did it–because she is a liar? Appears to me she grew up in a family of liars; all she ever learned was to lie. She didn't graduate from HS but instead of her parents sending her to summer school, back the next year or some other logical recourse, she was given a party–just pretend she graduated and maybe no one will notice. In all probability, Casey did something to cause the death of her child; but, the prosecution cannot prove this beyond a reasonable doubt because they do not know what happened–nor do you or the jury. Certainly, if my child drowned in a pool I would not go out and party because I am not out of my mind–perhaps Casey was. What you and I might do does nothing to prove what Casey did. The prosecution blew smoke because they had no proof.
Mr. Ashton was a bully a cry baby and did not prove his case. Now i do think she is guilty to many unanswered questions if i was on the jury.
What infuriates people is the fact that she partied after the child died. It ocurred to me that when those pictures were taken the baby could have still been alive and well. Casey Anthony left home sometime in mid June after a confrontation with her family over money. Grandmother Cindy reports Caylee missing in Mid july and says she last saw her grandaughter alive, one month earlier on June 16. If Casey had a falling out with mom, she wouldn't exactly be calling and visiting so that might explain not seeing either her or Caylee.. Then Anthony's get call to collect their daughter's car and it smells very bad. Mom Cindy naturally suspects foul play and calls police. From my understanding that happened in mid July and someone please clarify the timeline if I'm wrong. My question is when exactly were those party pics taken?
Willa, its believed Caylee died on or about 16 June. 15 June was the last time her grandparents saw her. 18 June was when she borrowed the shovel from the neighbor and was seen backing her car into the garage. The party photos were taken 20 June.
Thanks.
Just to reiterate
Casey Anthony was at her mother's house on June 18th.
...but her mother claims she hadn't seen her since June 15th.
She borrows a shovel from neighbor on June 18th. What for? Gardening? Was it to dig something up or bury it?
Backs car into garage. Why? To put something in the trunk? Was that something in the garage? What was it?
These are just some of the questions that beg to be answered.. Alas however, the prosecutors never got those answers and never proved anything.
They were however very effective in making people so angry about this case that they just might get a conviction. But, that is not how the legal system is supposed to work and that is not justice. Jurors have to make objective analyses in their deliberations. Jurors have to look at the facts, nothing else. Gut feelings, emotions, personal biases, personal dislikes and misplaced anger, can distort a person's perception. It's the kind of subjectivity that is not supposed to happen in a jury box.
Willa,
If think if we look at the big picture instead of analyzing all the little supporting factors to the big elements its certainly easier to determine only one answer.
The first and biggest question is, do you believe Caylee accidentally drown in the family pool as the defense suggested? If not, the next biggest question is do you believe that Caylee was murdered or accidentally died by other means and then was dumped in the swamp? What I mean by accidentally died, this would be if Casey used duct tape, chloroform or both to quiet Caylee but she died as a result. Keep in mind that is considered felony murder by aggrevated child abuse and also can carry a death sentence. Can you think of any other reasonable alternatives that could explain why Caylee was found dead in a swamp with duct tape over her nose/mouth. And lastly, the big question, do you believe any one had the opportunity or motive to kill Caylee other than Casey?
Answer these big questions using all the little supporting facts as they relate to each big element and the answer screams out guilty of 1st degree murder.