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Ohio State vacates 2010 wins, puts self on probation
The Ohio State University announced Friday it is vacating all 12 of its victories from the 2010 football season and placing itself on two years' probation in the wake of a scandal that cost coach Jim Tressel his job.
Tressel resigned under pressure after it was revealed he had lied to National Collegiate Athletic Association officials investigating allegations that Ohio State players had received special benefits from local businesses in Columbus, Ohio.
Several players, including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, allegedly swapped team and personal memorabilia and equipment for tattoos and other benefits. Tressel became aware of the transactions, which violate NCAA rules, but did not report them on a form all coaches are required to submit.
Five players were suspended for the first five games of the upcoming season.
"We are fully cooperating with the NCAA, and we look forward to working together to bring a resolution to these current matters," Athletics Director Gene Smith said in a written statement.
The self-imposed sanctions are contained in the university's formal response to the NCAA's Notice of Allegations received April 21. The NCAA could impose its own punishment, which could be more severe.
Tressel and the university also announced they had agreed to recharacterize his departure as a retirement rather than a resignation.
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"I take full responsibility for my mistakes that have led to the ongoing NCAA inquiry and to scrutiny and criticism of the football program," Tressel said in the university's press release. "I am grateful for this opportunity to retire from the university that I so deeply respect and that I will continue to support."
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Well, I take it that the people of Columbus will have lots of 'special' ways in mind to thank their local businesses, who just had to screw this up! Instead of being models of honesty and fair play, you continue their instruction into the fine art of graft and cheating!
Was that statement supposed to make sense Albro? Try harder next time, you'll achieve coherence one of these days. The odds are with you.
Never mind Roy. He never could understand a sentence any more complicated than an exclamation. Darn those grade-school teachers. 😉
it was a couple of Columbus businesses who messed this up for everyone. Their reasons were strictly selfish. The names of those businesses, especially the car dealership, have shown up repeately in the media. It would be understandable if people did not trouble them with their business.
Albro, you must be a graduate of that school up north with your non-sense.
As an athlete, I can guarantee you that if you get a scholarship you do NOT also get grants and loans. You can only receive aid up to how much Ohio State says Tuition, Room & Board, + Fees costs. So if you're getting a full scholarship, thats all you get. Nothing else. No grants, no student loans.
True. But many athletes get extra tutoring, separate dorms, and excused absences from tests and other responsibilities. I've taught many athletes, especially during summer classes, in math and I don't see the other students with a supplemental instructor taking notes alongside them in class. I don't have to report on my other students' grades to an outside ent-ity either. Most other students don't get all that. The "big three"– baseball, basketball, and football, get a lot. The other athletes get their share too. They do work for it, but don't pretend you're like every other student. You don't get tons of grants and loans, but you aren't hurting either.
What a joke!
Hey Michigan Fan- You finally won against OSU!!! Congrats
Rich Rod is updating his resume right now as this article was written.
Nope, this still counts as a loss for that school up North, the only status change will be in Ohio States record. Plus it has still been 2785 days since they have beaten the buckeyes.
If you don't think these college students are already getting paid enough for playing a game
try footing the bill for a college education at Ohio State.
Most of these young men would not even make it to college if they had to pay their own way.
Banasy? Really now, what did I hear before about the Dems who went down to the caribbean for free on someone elses dime. This story has nothing to do with politics. Its about Colleges making millions of dollars turning a blind eye to cheating. If they don't like the rules, try to change them.
Yes the majority of colleges do do things to entise the kids to go there. A southern College offered my son a scholarship and for someone else to take his placement test years ago. And that didn't happen because we did not want him to get screwed in the long run. It happens everywhere, but most do not get caught. These kids absolutely should get funds to use to take care of themselves and grants and aid are not enough. By the time they buy food and pay rent, they have nothing left. Trust me I have paid many electric bills and many western union's sent to help them out. And the fact that the big schools make a killing off thier abilities is just not fair.
Bunk. I was on a merit scholarship that was full tuition room and board and the athletes at my school got just as much. You can live on a full ride from a university. But you can't if you insist on living in an apartment instead of a dorm or living above your means. I will concede that the caloric intake of a soon to be professional athlete probably far exceeds my own, but still. Most athletes I know and have taught shouldn't have time to run up any bills between their work and practice. I'd be asking your kid where s/he's spending their money. If they are going to have a career in sports, budgeting is a good skill to learn.
Full tuition includes room & board - therefore, no rent, utilities, or food need to be paid for. They don't need spending money. Also, athletes get a per diem when they travel.
They do just fine, in other words. And they don't have a ton of debt when they graduate, which can't be said for most college students. Besides, these guys weren't getting necessities - they were getting free tattoos. There's a big difference.
Rules are rules. If you can't observe them, get out of the NCAA and go be a free agent.
Jillian- they are not allowed to get out of the NCAA- remember Clarett tried that. They have them locked in for three years. So if they do not like the compensation they are given (i.e. room, board, tution, etc.) there is no option for them to change that. Yet ticket prices for going to an OSU game went from $57 for the season as a student to $71 per ticket as an alumni..... hmmmm.
Pardon my idiocy, but I just know someone out there is dying to enlighten me.
1) Is "vacating" the same as "forfeiting"? I assume this means all OSU wins in 2010 will be negated, but maybe "vacating" has some NCAA significance I know nothing about.
2) What is "two year's probation"? What does that mean in specific terms?
1) Vacating means you don't take the win, however, it doesn't necessarily mean the other team gets it. For example – USC is no longer the 02 (year I think) champ, but Oklahoma doesn't get it.
2) Probation means limits on scholarships for recruiting as well as no bowl appearances.
to vacate is as if the game never happened, ie, wiped from the records without win or loss and without benefit to the opponent
probation will likely mean greater scrutiny but loss of scholarships and/or exclusion from post season play, eg, bowl games
i could be wrong but this is my interpretation based upon historical precedence
1) OSU no longer counts those games anymore... Either way I believe (vacating them from the record book).
2) Football probation is very similar to a person getting probation... as long as they act correctly and don't get into anymore trouble they can proceed with life. But if they get into trouble again... the hammer is going to come down really, really, really hard.
I think the other guys are talking about sanctions not probation... which is the really crux in the OSU statement... Most of us were expecting recommendations with sanctions on scholarships and bowl games.
Thank you to all who answered my questions! Your answers are slightly different than my assumptions, so it's good to know how these terms are used in this context. I do not think probation, even self-imposed, will prevent continuing scrutiny from the NCAA.
By and large, worse than probation, firings, loss of players and scholarships, this means OSU is still looking for one against the SEC.
Well it is nice to see at least one BCS School with integrity. Too Bad the Auburn people don't have as much.
Auburn hasn't been caught yet.
I truly hope OSU recovers from this but please do not make a statement like that without finishing the sentence ...one BCS School with integrity that is coming clean in lieu of its' violations and as a result has vacated its' 2010 Season. Auburn may be next in line but for now the high beams are on OSU not Auburn.
Don't kid yourself, "integrity" had nothing whatsoever to do with it. OSU's lawyers advised the school to act first in hopes of limiting the NCAA response. It's like any situation where you "get caught", go on offense!
Sorry Dennis, but I think you need to look up the definition for "integrity" (state of being entirely honest). One does not have integrity when they admit to all of their transgressions after being caught. Sorry, Ohio State did not act with integrity in this matter.
Steve, Auburn is self reporting their violations.... which has taken 8 months so far and still counting... OSU did it in 3 or 4 months. Auburn self reporting is a joke... they are just delaying the inevitable and hoping the NCAA forgets and doesn't come down as hard on them... Not to mention they'll start the next season so they don't have to take penalties this season. SEC acts like the patriots... "If you don't catch me and the rule isn't 100% clear... I ain't cheating"
auburn is not being investigated by the ncaa. there has been no letter of inquiry. what violations are you speaking about? to my knowledge, auburn has none.
Whoever said all of OSU should be ashamed is ridiculous. Believe it or not, there are people at this University who care about things that are much more important than football! Yes, what those individuals did was bad and the team should and will pay. But don't let the actions of a few morally corrupt individuals who will probably never even earn an OSU degree misrepresent the brilliant work and research students and faculty do here everyday!
Your well-reasoned and well-written opinion has no place here. Move on, please.
Prior is one quarter away from graduating... He'll graduate... Do you know why? Because Jim Tressel made sure his players graduated and were better people than they were when they started at OSU. This is what is missing in all of these articles... Yes he messed up, everyone does. That doesn't wipe away all the good he did before his mistake.
I totally agree with you osu5. It's sad that athletics always are so high profile and the true reason for college is the academics . . . or did I miss something. College=Education, correct?!?!?!
I am an SEC fan, but I completely agree with you. However, I do feel that the athletes should be compensated for the extra hours and effort they put in. Right now the rules are so restrictive that the temptation to cheat is too great. The schools make a lot of money off the big sports like football and basketball. The players end up short-changed.
Dusk... Put yourself in their shoes... You've been told your whole life that you will be a NFL star and make millions of dollars... You've been poor your whole life... High School is a joke and you walk around like a king not doing too much work because you are the "star player"... You go to college where they treat you like a God... Do you really think if you put yourself in the shoes of an 18 year old kid that they think college = education? Especially since you can't go to the NFL these days without playing in college... So the system basically forces them to go to college. It's about time the NFL finally comes up with a developmental league for 18-21 year olds as another avenue to get to the NFL.
I graduated from college, I understand the importance of an education. But if I put myself in their shoes... I would be tempted to do the same things... You know why? Because I'm was an idiot at 18 or 19.
i just wish the players themselves would not have placed the coach in a position where he'd need to lie to protect them and his program, shame on them most of all. A free education is reward in itself though many of today's so called student athletes merely abuse this gift and exploit their rare opportunity to develop character and maturity which ideally they will model to their peers and family one day. the joke and yoke is on us.
Are you serious? Even IF they had given the coach reason to lie, doesn't mean he has to. Come on now. He is the more mature, older and wiser of the adults in this situation. He was just thinking of winning instead of the long run for himself, his team and his school. He is the main one at fault. The student was really stupid. But the coach IS a liar. He covered it up too.
I will always believe that Mr Tressel is a good man and was a father to the a lot of the players and wanted the best for them.
They were seen in Columbus attending dinners and church together.
We ALL make mistakes..
I wish the best for him and the former .present and future players
It was bound to happen but the school can punish itself all it wants but how bad will we get hit by the NCAA?
Admitting wrong doing and punishing yourself AFTER you got caught is not integrity. It is called covering your a$$.
How is Boehner going to blame this on Obama?
Publius take your "left-wing" or "right-wing" political crap somwhere else. It doesn't belong here!!!
Couldn't have happened to a bunch of nicer guys. Perhaps we can now refer to OSU and the Little Sisters of Mercenary. LOL