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1. Philip
   

   US troops weren't after bin Laden in Afghanistan. They were after the Taliban government that would NOT allow the use of their sacred holy Muslim Allah fearing land to be used by the 'infidels' as is forbidden in the Koran. There's something in the Koran about what to do to any foreigners if they were to ever invade, but it's too bloody for CNN to post. The instructions on how to deal with a man claiming to be Muslim who has either sided with or is himself one of the invaders are even more gruesome.

   July 9, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
2. Philip
   

   G'nite Jazzy...you should teach that trick to JIF's 'Sheryl'...just for practice. 🙂

   July 9, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
3. Philip
   

   🙂 Good! see ya round Jazzy.

   July 9, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
4. Joey Isotta-Fraschini
   

   Osso buco?

   July 9, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
5. saywhat
   

   Sure @ Philip
   invaders on our sacred land will always be treated differently. And I always thought that you were savvy & not easily swayed by propaganda.
   After all this Islamophobia & bruhaha about 'Sharia Law' ,which those who make the most noise know nothing about , I did some research . I read the entire Koran and its wonderful translation & interpretation " Opening the Quran" by Professor Walker Wagner a most respected non- muslim academic. Also by another widely read non-muslim theologian Leslie Hazelton " On Reading The Quran".
   And I was surprised to learn how baseless all this propaganda has been. The treatment of invaders or the enemy during battles or after a conquest, in the Koran is exactly what today's rules of engagement are followed by all civilized countries.
   And on many other aspects which have been distorted by those who profit from spreading fear & hate. Like Jihad, taking lives etc. In fact the Koran follows & affirms what had been taught in older scriptures like The Torah & Bible, the Prophets & the Law.

   July 10, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
6. saywhat
   

   Appears that those handful of terrorists we are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan & Pakistan do not themselves know zilch about their own religion or Koran. No wonder more muslims sre dying at their hands than anyone else.

   July 10, 2011 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
7. @saywhat
   

   You are wrong. Jesus commands his followers to love their God and to love their neighbors, even to pray for their enemies, as recorded in the bible. While Allah commands to "slay them (infidels; non-believers) wherever you find them, and to deal "harshly" with "Renegade muslims" who have turned their backs on Allah and joined with thee invaders. The last thing a captured American soldier in Afghanistan would want to claim is that he's Muslim, as if it were Allah who sent him to invade. Your claim that the Koran "affirms" what is taught in God's word is laughable. True Muslims would never side with infidels, and as we have seen this "Arab Spring" is what happens when Muslim peoples find out that their own Muslim government has been nothing but a puppet for the infidels this whole time.

   July 10, 2011 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
   • saywhat
     

     The Quran
     verse 5: 32

     " killing a person is like killing all humanity and saving a person is the same as saving humanity"

     July 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
8. Philip
   

   "Slay them WHEREVER you find them and drive them out..." The Koran, Sura 2:191. "On unbeleievers is the curse of Allah"–2:161 "Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it."–2:216 "But if [your brothers] turn Renegade, sieze them and slay them WHEREVER you find them"–4:89. I cannot even imagine Jesus saying those words to his followers. But you can? pls. explain.

   July 10, 2011 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
9. saywhat
   

   I did not post that, folks.
   Another troll has appeared. And I wont be posting under this name again.

   July 10, 2011 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
10. Philip
    

    Well, while you are here... he he. Well that's no fun. Them darn trolls hijacking s/n's is getting old. Now they have us engageing ea. other in meaningful dialogue. They used to just post snot-nose brat stuff under others names. (shrug)

    July 10, 2011 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
11. saywhat
    

    @ saywhat @ Philip
    Philip you have committed the same ( perhaps unintentional) error which the propgandists make.
    You have just posted a snippet from the complete verse of Quran – 2;190-193 .
    " Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress: for God loves not thge transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out... for tumult & oppression are worse than slaughter. But if they cease, God is oft forgiving, most merciful; if they cease let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression"
    proves my point. Precisely the rules of engagement we follow and precisely what we are doing in Iraq, Afghanistan & Pakistan . We are following what the Quran lays out .for those who fight us.
    I would quote other vesrses in whole but that would become to lengthy.
    Quoting Quran out of context is an old trick. Thats why I had to read the whole book as interpreted & translated by non-muslim scholars.

    July 10, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
12. saywhat
    

    On second thoughts I'll stick to my nome-de-plume for a while & see if it goes. that is why my post of 11:55 am for @ philip.

    July 10, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
13. james
    

    @arnold that was absolutely hilarious still LMAO and I'm a kneegrow by the way.

    July 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
14. david
    

    @Philip. So even if Bush is related to the Queen, what's your point? I myself am related to not only Abraham Lincoln but Oliver Cromwell as well. Humphrey Bogart was a close cousin to Prince Charles as well, it all pretty much means diddly squat.

    July 10, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |