Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate
July 26th, 2011
11:51 AM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate

As debt ceiling talks continue, last night both sides presented reasons for a stalled solution. President Barack Obama called the political showdown "no way to run the greatest country on Earth" while House Speaker John Boehner insisted that excessive government spending is the root cause of America's financial problems and that expenditure cuts are the only solution.

Based on their comments, CNN.com readers are frustrated by the deadlock and many blame Republicans and House Speaker Boehner for not being willing to compromise.

Comment of the morning:

“It's looking to me kinda like grandma won't get her SS check because we invaded Iraq needlessly. That's pretty hard to swallow.” - ArooMadazda

Where’s the compromise?

Here's what else our readers had to say on the issue:

MasterJ51503 said, “Other than surrendering himself for impeachment, President Obama has given the Republican party EVERYTHING they desire. This is about as much compromise from Democratic leadership I have seen in decades, and the Republicans un-willingness to strike a deal on such circumstances that favor them tremendously only shows their true agenda: they want to paint Obama as a "failure.”

aahawks said, “No matter which side you are on, the President said one important word: "Compromise." From what I see, Obama is willing to make cuts and meet in the middle. The Republicans are not willing to meet in the middle. It’s their way or no way. Compromise is how we get things done.”

TorukMakto said, “Can we get the approval ratings for Boehner? I thought Bush was bad, but I have never seen a politician so openly threaten to let the U.S. economy get destroyed as long as the wealthy and corporations continue to enjoy the Bush TAX CUT.”

adamThegr8 said, “Obama speaks to you. Bohner speaks at you.”

Samuel27 said, “Boehner's speech boiled down to ‘Do what I say, and no one gets hurt!’”

TryLogic said, “Hey, Boehner: It's not a blank check. It's a debt ceiling increase, which has happened 74 times since 1962. And it's for exactly $2.4 trillion. Stop holding our nation hostage with politics.”

TheRealist20 said, “Boehner chooses to make extra cuts to Medicare and Social Security so he can preserve tax CUTS that were supposed to expire anyway, for the wealthiest 2 percent of the population. What a total slime ball.

Switters02 said, “Boehner cannot get his 'plan' passed by the House – 39 Republican Representatives have SIGNED A PLEDGE not to vote for it. Priceless.......”

anonyname said, “Remember, Speaker Boehner, if you break, it you own it. While you try to blackmail the President to keep millionaires and billionaires from paying more taxes, you are in GRAVE danger of being the guy who places the last straw that craters our economy. Do you want to be remembered forever as the guy who did that?”

Guest responded, “It's the President who doesn't UNDERSTAND the economy. He has NO background to be in the position as the President. It's showing BIG time here.

zzbbe said, “For some strange reason Boehner is determined to reelect Obama. His performance last night must have been worth many million votes for the Democrats.”

ihantotta said, “Poor Boehner. He looked so pathetic. He had to get up in front of the whole country and tell us that his party won't lift a finger for the common man.”

Truthwins101 responded, “Any sane person listening to Boehner last night would never be able to vote for Obama again in a million years. If you pull the lever for Obama in 2012 it speaks VOLUMES about your lack of mental capacity.”

brianguy123 said, “Obama's speech rambles about the year 2000, teachers, firefighters and corporate jets, none of which have anything to do with the issues at hand. The guy is from Pluto. He is not living in the real world.”

CorruptUS said, “If I had to choose right now between the plans presented last night. Hands down would I choose the one Obama was pushing.”

apaige said, “President Obama explained the debt ceiling crisis in everyday language to many Americans who didn't understand how serious this situation has become. He asked for balance and compromise while Boehner spent his time attacking the President. More importantly, the President told the country how a small cult of extremists have taken over the government and produced this very dangerous and unnecessary stalemate.”

ChefCHEESE said, “I watched President on TV last night and I think his plan makes 100% sense. The Republicans are an arrogant bunch of people who act as if they are still in power. I hope the voters will realize that and given them a real beating in election in 2012.”

gman90210 said, “Obama is openly lying to you. 'Tax the millionaires and billionaires'. Then in the same speech the plan is to tax 250k+, which is closer to zero than a million. Democrats can't understand simple math, blindly following a clueless leader who only cares to kick the can down the street to get past the next election instead of solving real problems.”

BobnLA said, “What is sad is that the President has to ask people to get involved in their own future. Getting a phone number or email address for any politician is simple- Google them. The real problem? Most Americans don't know who their representatives are!”

fiskenmann said, “Contact your lawmakers? Sorry, Mr. President, our lawmakers in South Dakota do not respond to voters unless you give them a check!!!”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (2,307 Responses)
  1. Eileen

    The spending needs to be cut. All the democrats do is vote for spending increases for poor minorities and illigal aliens so they will vote for them. They are spending us out of a country. Wake up America or are you going to wail until the other shoe drops and then ask, "what happened". We have alot of stupid people in this country.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evan

      the spending has NOT gotten us into this mess. yes, we are spending over our means and there needs to be serious defecit reduction in the talks, but raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with spending more. and keeping spending balanced has little to do with improving the economy. People are looking for jobs, business are sitting on piles of money, demand is stagnant. he gov should be pouring money into public works: greening old industries, creating new green industries, investing in R/D so that we can compete globally and maybe get some of those manufacturing jobs back. now thats a plan

      July 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • T.J.

      You are obviously one of the "stupid people" you referenced in your comment. It's "a lot", not alot, and "illegal", not illigal. If you can't spell, you can't make a point. You don't deserve the right to vote.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evan

      now TJ, everybody makes typos. but how about having to take a simple citizenship test in order to vote? would love to reference the actual poll but there were some disgraceful %s of people who didnt know who the SOTH or VP were.. uninformed voting is reckless

      July 26, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • ByTheNumbers

      Evan: You're right that we should pour money into public works to improve the job situation. But, much of the Stimulus bill of $830 billion went toward teachers, firemen and police which are not public works jobs. They didn't improve the infrastructure to improve business potential. Those additional government employees added a burden to the state and county payrolls after the stimulus ran out.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB402L

      Outsourcing our jobs got us into this mess!! Without jobs, people lose their homes. Gee- housing crisis. Without jobs, people are on unemployment, go to food banks, apply for welfare. Gee- everyone's draining the Fed govt dry! If the Corporations don't want to pay higher taxes.......just bring the jobs back! The resulting taxes from all those workers paychecks would fill the coffers!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evan

      Look, if the Dems had a spine they would have gotten the full package and not just the 700 B. unfortunately we got a watered down version of a half-stimulus that consisted of alot of tax cuts to people who do not create jobs. money for education keeps teachers, librarians from getting laid off

      July 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • ByTheNumbers

      Evan: The $700 billion was the TARP package of which Obama had $350 B of it to work with on his first day in office. The Stimulus package was $830 billion that he also asked for and received. Also, teachers and librarians are paid from county taxes. That's why using Federal stimulus dollars to hire them was only a shortterm way of decreasing unemployment.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evan

      True. Also, a lot of the stimulus money went to balancing states budgets, which doesn't directly add jobs. and even the jobs that are added directly from stimulus aren't always permanent. This is probably why people are weary to use government spending to spawn jobs, because it looks like we'll keep coming back needing more money. but if done correctly and thoroughly (as opposed to sabotage from within) gov spending can get things moving. think of all the gov money (deductions, tax breaks, incentives, subsidies) that goes straight to the private sector to help stimulate growth. what I fail to see is how cutting that spending will help at all. regardless of your view on size of government

      July 26, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mr Logical

      Eileen – Stop being so logical – most the people responding on this blog are either in a union, unemployed or work for the government already...Without big or bigger government, they lose. Don't expect them to see the bigger picture for this generation or the next several – They just want the monthly check at the tax-payers expense. I'll continue to just roll my eyes at these buffoons and the garbage they respond with....

      July 26, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Marine

    If I spend more than I make I go into debt. If I don't stop spending and start creating wealth I will go bankrupt and lose all that I have. Seems like an unpalatable but simple and neccesary solution. STOP SPENDING START EARNING. Now when the "balanced" approach was presented it was presented as "cut spending and increase taxes". Unlike a person a Goverment does not create wealth, they re-allocate it (STEAL- Strategically Take Equipment to Another Location). So if your answer is to cut spending while stealing from your own credit card (taxpayer, business owner, employer, producer), my guess is this problem will not be solved, Americans will suffer, and the problem will be passed to the next office holder. The only solution that will work is to cut taxes (in hopes that it will increase production- unlike giving businesses cash you stole from productive Americans), cut spending to avoid building more debt, and seriously work to pay off debt. In other words don't increase taxes, decrease spending.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Disgusted IN NJ

      You are totally out of line or you just refuse to see the truth through your Republican eyes, too much FOX. Where is the fair and Balance of spreading some of this pain not only to the middle class but the folks that can really afford it like the top10% in this county which have more wealth then the bottom 90% is that considered fair to you, take from the people that can least afford it, and leave the rich like the Exxon's and I just heard today that BP ( British Petroleum) made 5.4 billion this last quarter and General Electric who does not pay any taxes at all in this country. Why are we subsidising these corportations do they really need our tax induced money, are they going to create that many more jobs for us to warrant this giveaway of tax payer funds? and you wonder why we are in trouble! What you are doing Sir is catering to your Rich Buddies who receive very favorable donations for Re-election campains and through different Pac Committies and Lobbyist to spew your vile so your Rich Buddies get Richer, I hope your part of the loop !

      July 26, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marine

      My rich buddies 🙂 I see you like to demonize "the rich". Do you also hate on "the jew's" "rednecks" and "weeemen" hahahahahaha! BP is not based in the United States. We work with them, and for them, but "British Petroleum" doesn't owe us anything. Because our representatives find it lucrative to sell them leasing rights you know of them. You also pay (in addition to BP) the Peoples Republic of China a great deal of money. They also get import tarrif reductions from our elected officials. They also will not be effected by the proposed tax increases. That family that does the sanitation in your town that averages 26.00 an hour for their employees- they on the other hand will have to lay some folks off. And the owner may decide not to hire a mechanic or a greenskeeper, or get that addition put on his house. So the grass cutter, the greesemonkey and the carpenter probably will cut out their Thursday pizza and beer party causing the local Pizza Pizza place to go just enough into the red to make it lucrative to declare bankruptcy and retire on Social Security. Since she will be one of millions it will mean that in 2014 we will need to increase taxes and the debt ceiling again. But hey who cares right? When you get too many parasites you ingest a mild poison. Kills them ticks and fleas quick fast and in a hurry.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  3. frank feinberg

    Re: taxes kill jobs...Largest tax increase in modern times under Clinton, prosperity, balanced budget and 21 million jobs. Bush tax cuts, was the jobs record so great before the great recession. Horrific jobs record during eight Bush years. Is there a Republican out there who can address and reconcile these two facts?Please, I really want to know.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lance

      Unemployment 2001: 4.7%
      Unemployment 2007: 4.6%

      Given the population increase in that period, that means sufficient jobs were created.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • ByTheNumbers

      The Clinton prosperity was brought on by the Internet hype that inflated salaries and increased tax revenues. That bubble burst in 2001 just as Bush was taking office. The deficit spending approved by Congress after 9/11 to invade both Afghanistan and Iraq is the only reason we didn't suffer a recession earlier. It's the inflated housing bubble that Bush tried to fix in 2005 (disapproved by Congress Repubs & Democrats alike) that finally burst.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Evan

      cant use unemployment numbers to extrapolate job creation. derp

      July 26, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Connie

    If congress and senate cannot do their jobs, then its time to get out and give the job to someone that can work with the President. There should be a term limite. After all most of them have been in their positions for over 6 years if not longer. They are the ones that have voted and passed everything and now they are blaming in on the President. I think not. They need to get it together and start doing their jobs. After all that is why they were voted in. Boehner is just a big cry baby. They are all talk and no action.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • ByTheNumbers

      There's nothing really new with the way Congress works. They've always work this way (or not worked). It's the President's job to work out a compromise regardless of the bickering. But, this President waited too long and focused on his party's side too much to compromise in a timely manner. Boehner isn't the one who scheduled a Prime Time appeal to the public to whine.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  5. ByTheNumbers

    "This is no way to run" the country is right. But, if we have to say who the one person is who runs this country, I think we all agree it's the President. Former Presidents just dealt with Congress to quietly work out a deal. There's nothing really new with the way Congress works. This President just waited too long before whining in public about not getting his way.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
  6. oldlady

    We should support Bohner so the 2% of the rich can keep on having 5 or 6 houses with lots of bedrooms and bathrooms, at least one the size of a ballroom; and their Mercedes and Ferraries.....and ......I know what I'm talking about, have seen it.
    That way we wont need to feel sorry because they cant keep adding things they can't possibly use.
    Miiddle class working people.......who are they?

    July 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Awhailey

    I think that as much as I hate to admit it the President is right, we need compermise. If we do not have it I think the American people will intiate the largest recall ever. Targeting just about all of the politicians in DC

    July 26, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  8. JohnRJ08

    Eric Cantor is telling his caucus to rally behind Boehner's plan, which doesn't stand a chance in h e l l of being passed in the Senate, much less being signed by the President. If one person had to be singled out for creating this debacle, it is Eric Cantor, who has enabled the behavior of the Tea Party in the House.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Jaydub

    I am just a country boy so I have to put things in terms a country boy can understand. So let me say it this way. Remember as a kid on a hot summer day and you went skinny dipping in the creek? When you got out and bent over to pick up your cloths a big old grizzle bear came up and grabbed you from behind and was about to have his way with you? Well just before that happened you felt a nice warm fuzzy, right? John Boehner and his ______ (fill in the blank) are positioning themselves to give America a nice warm fuzzy. So I have to ask America how is it working for you because for me not so good!!!

    July 26, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. sam

    What I can't believe is that we haven't seen that nut with stupid but terfly vid post it about a hundred times by now.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Nope

    The Republicans will not be happy until they have eradicated public education and create work camps for the poor and middle class in order to placate their corporate overlords... just wait America... you ain't seen nothing yet!

    July 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mr Logical

      CNN along with you ignorant people are leading me to the nut house...I guess for those of YOU middle class folk that have massive credit card debt, this must all seem like huh, just compromise, when we collapse into 3rd world economics, OH WELL.....For those of US middle class folk that haven't had to foreclose because we didn't OVERSPEND or refinance our homes to buy new cars and live within our means...WE UNDERSTAND exactly what the GOP is doing here..Good Lord. The overspending democrats got us in this hole and the GOP is trying to get us out!!!!!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam

      @ Mr 'Logical' – *I'm* going into debt trying to help my sister save her house because of an awful situation, not because of overspending, so fck you, judgmental, nearsighted pr!ck.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Sandy F.

    No one in Congress – and especially in the White House – seems to have any idea of what the average person is facing. Do they not understand unemployment? Low wages? Trying to live on Social Security? They are in an ivory tower with ther guaranteed for life paychecks and guaranteed absolutely wonderful insurance. Perks and more perks – free gym, free meals.... etc. They should all lose their paycheck when they leave office. Have to pay Social Security taxes. Try to make it with Medicare. In short, live in the real world. I hope the American public absolutely "cleans house" the next election.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
  13. MDaniels

    I used to think it was funny when the GOP was portrayed as a bunch of purely evil greedy super villains, out to help the rich at the cost of the middle class and the poor. But these days, it's not a joke. These are some genuinely evil human being.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
  14. JD

    When leaders care more about those people that they lead, those values that they were elected to espouse, and less about reelection, hard decisions will be made. Change can't come without the casulties of individual ease. And so long as the President and his confidants–Geithner and Bernanke–press for a weaker dollar and more spending, the larger, longer-lasting, and more sever the consequences will be. Someone got it right when they put these men in the CBS add:

    July 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Hannah

    Where are the jobs? 4M were outsourced overseas during the last administration. Keep the tax loopholes only for those companies who bring the jobs back the US. There are plenty of qualified Americans who can do them.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
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