Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate
July 26th, 2011
11:51 AM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Beyond frustrated with debt stalemate

As debt ceiling talks continue, last night both sides presented reasons for a stalled solution. President Barack Obama called the political showdown "no way to run the greatest country on Earth" while House Speaker John Boehner insisted that excessive government spending is the root cause of America's financial problems and that expenditure cuts are the only solution.

Based on their comments, CNN.com readers are frustrated by the deadlock and many blame Republicans and House Speaker Boehner for not being willing to compromise.

Comment of the morning:

“It's looking to me kinda like grandma won't get her SS check because we invaded Iraq needlessly. That's pretty hard to swallow.” - ArooMadazda

Where’s the compromise?

Here's what else our readers had to say on the issue:

MasterJ51503 said, “Other than surrendering himself for impeachment, President Obama has given the Republican party EVERYTHING they desire. This is about as much compromise from Democratic leadership I have seen in decades, and the Republicans un-willingness to strike a deal on such circumstances that favor them tremendously only shows their true agenda: they want to paint Obama as a "failure.”

aahawks said, “No matter which side you are on, the President said one important word: "Compromise." From what I see, Obama is willing to make cuts and meet in the middle. The Republicans are not willing to meet in the middle. It’s their way or no way. Compromise is how we get things done.”

TorukMakto said, “Can we get the approval ratings for Boehner? I thought Bush was bad, but I have never seen a politician so openly threaten to let the U.S. economy get destroyed as long as the wealthy and corporations continue to enjoy the Bush TAX CUT.”

adamThegr8 said, “Obama speaks to you. Bohner speaks at you.”

Samuel27 said, “Boehner's speech boiled down to ‘Do what I say, and no one gets hurt!’”

TryLogic said, “Hey, Boehner: It's not a blank check. It's a debt ceiling increase, which has happened 74 times since 1962. And it's for exactly $2.4 trillion. Stop holding our nation hostage with politics.”

TheRealist20 said, “Boehner chooses to make extra cuts to Medicare and Social Security so he can preserve tax CUTS that were supposed to expire anyway, for the wealthiest 2 percent of the population. What a total slime ball.

Switters02 said, “Boehner cannot get his 'plan' passed by the House – 39 Republican Representatives have SIGNED A PLEDGE not to vote for it. Priceless.......”

anonyname said, “Remember, Speaker Boehner, if you break, it you own it. While you try to blackmail the President to keep millionaires and billionaires from paying more taxes, you are in GRAVE danger of being the guy who places the last straw that craters our economy. Do you want to be remembered forever as the guy who did that?”

Guest responded, “It's the President who doesn't UNDERSTAND the economy. He has NO background to be in the position as the President. It's showing BIG time here.

zzbbe said, “For some strange reason Boehner is determined to reelect Obama. His performance last night must have been worth many million votes for the Democrats.”

ihantotta said, “Poor Boehner. He looked so pathetic. He had to get up in front of the whole country and tell us that his party won't lift a finger for the common man.”

Truthwins101 responded, “Any sane person listening to Boehner last night would never be able to vote for Obama again in a million years. If you pull the lever for Obama in 2012 it speaks VOLUMES about your lack of mental capacity.”

brianguy123 said, “Obama's speech rambles about the year 2000, teachers, firefighters and corporate jets, none of which have anything to do with the issues at hand. The guy is from Pluto. He is not living in the real world.”

CorruptUS said, “If I had to choose right now between the plans presented last night. Hands down would I choose the one Obama was pushing.”

apaige said, “President Obama explained the debt ceiling crisis in everyday language to many Americans who didn't understand how serious this situation has become. He asked for balance and compromise while Boehner spent his time attacking the President. More importantly, the President told the country how a small cult of extremists have taken over the government and produced this very dangerous and unnecessary stalemate.”

ChefCHEESE said, “I watched President on TV last night and I think his plan makes 100% sense. The Republicans are an arrogant bunch of people who act as if they are still in power. I hope the voters will realize that and given them a real beating in election in 2012.”

gman90210 said, “Obama is openly lying to you. 'Tax the millionaires and billionaires'. Then in the same speech the plan is to tax 250k+, which is closer to zero than a million. Democrats can't understand simple math, blindly following a clueless leader who only cares to kick the can down the street to get past the next election instead of solving real problems.”

BobnLA said, “What is sad is that the President has to ask people to get involved in their own future. Getting a phone number or email address for any politician is simple- Google them. The real problem? Most Americans don't know who their representatives are!”

fiskenmann said, “Contact your lawmakers? Sorry, Mr. President, our lawmakers in South Dakota do not respond to voters unless you give them a check!!!”

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Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. RickBurn

    Anyone who signs a pledge to not compromise on the most fundamental of all political issues (taxation) declare himself or herself to be unfit for office. Politics in a heterogeneous democracy is compromise. We all have no problem whatsoever condemning Islamic radicals who demand that everyone in their country be guided by only one principal – the one that they believe in. How is this any different? Americans do not all have the same religious beliefs, nor are our views of how to run this country all the same. Anyone who claims to represent Americans must acknowledge this. Anyone who claims to represent Americans must be capable of compromise.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • MSYDNREW11776

      The facts are that we are a country that is also a big business. No other business is permitted to run with trillions of dollars in deficit and be permitted to exist or continue to keep spending.

      The US IS a business, at least we treat it like one and run it like one...What's the expression..If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

      July 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • franklyfedup

      I agree. Norguist is not an elected official and never could be. He is using extortion to help get his slimey flunkies elected. He should be charged with the crime of extortion. Any elected official who signed a pledge to a special interest group should be impeached and removed from office. They are not serving we the peple. If jfk had signed a pledge to serve only the interest of his religion, he would have been removed from office immediately. If Dick Cheny had signed a pledge to only work for the best interests of Halliburton, he also would have been removed from office. Opps, that last comment was a bad example.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Mark

    WOW: you really are a liberal organization! You only post liberal comments from your liberal-majority viewership. I check you out, every now and then, to see what the enemy is saying. Fortunately, FOX's viewership numbers dwarf CNN's.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam

      ...aaaaaand that's how we got in this mess in the first place. Case solved.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      Popularity does not guarantee quality.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd

      Actually, there were some conservatives who were represented. Please read carefully before making blanket statements

      July 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • A. A. Roberts

      " FOX's viewership numbers dwarf CNN's"

      Hey! Morons have to a place to go to too.

      Conservative = Fascist... the true definition.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Classwarfare4u

      ...and you sir are just like most dumb-ass republicans that don't look past the first couple of sentences or take time to understand anything. There are plenty of posts that are anti-Obama in the experts above. Go ahead and crawl back up Rupert Murdoch's ass. He seems like a great guy to trust for "fair and balanced" news.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • franklyfedup

      Fox , the network of buffons and bimbos. A better set of network letters would be RATT(republican all the time).

      July 26, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Shawn-GA

    I am honestly scared reading comments here, far too many people hear sound bites (republican & Democrat) and just run with it based on their preconceived notions. It is scary you take no intrest in your country other than to blame the other guy… this is where we live people!! Get with it.
    The President knew that most people were not paying attention and if he came out now and looked like he was doing something and blamed the other guys you would all just fall in line. You need to pay more attention to your country more often folks... Why didn't they vote on this a year ago, or month ago? Why was the only budget that was put up by the President voted down 97-0 (yes that means no Democrat voted for it as well)
    Do you realize if we taxed every cent over $250k from EVERY person who makes that much it would run out in 6 months? Explain to me how taxing another few points will do ANYTHING? This is a fact! Have you ever had a job from a poor person? The "Rich" they are targeting are the people hiring. Therefore tax them more and they cannot afford to hire people, take away the mortgage tax credit and they stop building expensive homes which will mean less construction.... I could keep going but if you do not get it yet you never will.
    By the way why are we going after the people who pay more in taxes than anyone else? Why are you not addressing the fact that over 40% of the country pays NOTHING in taxes? If we had more people in the system instead of leaching off of it things would be better as well
    Why are so many people so easily swayed by a press conference with LIES in it?? Come on folks do not be so easily played....

    July 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kiki

      The official poverty level is set at $22,000 annually for a family of four with two children or $12,000 for an individual. That's a cash cow for sure! What are you going to take from them?

      July 26, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shawn-GA

      Also do not forget that Obama voted AGAINST raising the debt limit when he was a Senator... yet he now says to not do it would be catastrophic

      July 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Curt

      By all means – please provide the stats you pulled for those claims. We'd love to hear them.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marine

      You're right. Kiki doesn't get it. She doesn't understand that the 40% of the US that is collecting taxes instead of paying them is growing- and those who are intelligent (coincidentally those who innovate and create) are seeing the light and fleeing (look at the number of productive Americans leaving the US), or assimilating by moving into tiny houses, RV's, remote off the grid properties etc. It is only the suckers (by that I mean those who suckle on the teat of american productivity) that are set up to pay the highest price. But then maybe that is the natural order of things.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kindasorta

      40% pay nothing! Your funny. The rich are not hiring and if they were to pay more taxes for a change then maybe they would hire more people to produce more to make more money!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • steve harnack

      Everybody pays taxes one way or another. I and about 200 million other people are sick to death of hearing that if the rich don't get to keep every penny of the money other people make for them that they will pick up their toys and quit playing. Well let them! They are sitting on trillions of dollars in offshore accounts as it is. People get hired when the middle class has money to spend, not when rich people feel generous.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shawn-GA

      GREAT question... The "cash cow" as you put it would be in part:

      1) Less people on welfare means less money going out with no ROI, more self esteem for those who actually care they are living off of others. (before you gripe, my family did the stamps years ago, we used it as it was designed as a hand up until you are on your feet NOT as a lifestyle)

      2) People making money spend money, which leads to more jobs, more industry…etc which leads to less people on welfare (getting the theme here?)

      July 26, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • WhoamI

      Over 40% of the U.S doesn't pay taxes??? What an ignorant statement. What portion of that 40% are illegals?? What portion of that 40% are elderly people who have paid taxes all their lives and now can't afford to pay them because the $950 a month they get from SSI is just barely enough to pay for all their meds and a few meals. Is a family that makes 30k a year more likely to be hurt by increasing taxes than a family that makes 250k + a year?? The answer is yes. Why try to make people who can't afford it pay more? When your Mom or Grandmother is not able to pay for her medication because that social security check didn't come are you going to pay for it?? Elderly and middle to lower class will suffer most, and if elderly are dying because they can't pay for meds and don't have any help, and middle and lower class are losing their houses and becoming homeless, do you think they're going to be paying those taxes then? Nothing would be solved, things would be worse. Think about it, a quarter of a million dollars is a lot of money and some extra taxes is not going to dramatically effect their lives. What's worse, people losing their homes, or people having to do some downgrading and maybe living within they're means, not above them. 40%, what a bold uneducated statement. People take a real close look at this Bohner, does anybody really trust this guy?? He looks like a scandal waiting to happen! After attacking the President of our great country last night like he did, Obama should send team 6 to his home and let him have it for treason! And if the republicans are not going to vote on this plan just because they want to ruin Obama, maybe America as a people should rise up and vote on what we want to do with these republicans who only want to help themselves and the rich, instead of America as one!

      July 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marine

      @ kinda sorta: you are kinda sorta retarded huh? The rich arent hiring, but if we take more of their money maybe they will haire more to make more money to make up for it ? 🙂 Wow. That is brilliantly retarded. I cant name a world class actor who could even ACT as retarded.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
  4. MSYDNREW11776

    Funny, when I run out of money, I can't spend any more unless I use credit cards. But even those have limits! It's not rocket science people, it's basic business guys and gals in DC...If you don't have it...don't spend it. This is what happens when we elect politicians to run the world's largest business. We get the blame game, we get posturing and in the end, "We the people" take it in the shorts. Time to pull your heads out! Do the hard work and make it work!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jason

    This "stalemate" is a show to keep the extreme right and left thinking they have a voice in the "fight". It's a shame that the negotiating parties keep pandering to these ignorant, selfish, and insecure sects of American politics. Perhaps more shameful is that we think they're actually trying to come to a deal, when it has probably already been agreed upon.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Jimm

    Facts: 1)Record annual budget deficits the past two years. 2)Record national debt increases the past 2 years. 3)Record long term unemplyment numbers.4)Record recession length. 5)Record housing crash still in decline. 6)Record number of people on food stamps. 7)Record percentage of Americans who pay ZERO taxes. 8)One added "conflict" to the previous two that were going to be ended asap. 9)Guantanamo is still open. 10)Record for the most empty speeches has to be in jeopardy. 11)Obama voted AGAINST raising the debt cieling when Bush was pres in 2006, in fact the Democrats voted against it unanimously and they called it "Irresponsible".

    July 26, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • steve harnack

      Maybe it IS irresponsible when it's only going to pay for a private WAR!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Charles

    The TeaPublican's need to all gather in the south and claim their own country. Texas might be a good place. These nut cases are the one's to blame for what's happening. All of them collectivly don't have enough common sense to know what should or shouldn't be. They may stick to their nutty agenda with Palin and run themselves into the ground! IDIOTS!
    Rednecks, hypocrites and bigots. Sadly they don't even know it or care. I think more than anything, they just can't stand having a President that isn't a white man. Plain and simple.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marine

      Texas, Alaska, and Louisiana. And I dont care what color or gender you think the president is or should be. An honest human that understands he or she is doing a "service" for a pre-determined amount of time and is held fully accountable for everything he or she does or fails to do will be/would be awesome. We can call it the Republic of the United States. We'll have a flat sales tax, no property tax, no inheritance tax, and the only business of the goverment will be to enhance international and interstate trade, defense, and provide 2 stages of education (one for everyone reading writing and math-and one for those who will serve in any representative office.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  8. LoganSquareDon

    When George W. Bush was President, he gave a speech at a formal dinner. He said that his base was the Haves and the Have Mores. You can see itr on the internet. It is quite tellingt of where the loyality of the Tea Party lies, and it is not with the People.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  9. steve

    isn't it obvious? US GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE THAT CITIZENS THINK!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  10. T in Orlando

    Tried to send an email to FL Rep several times today on Gov't website, website error every time. I tried to send: STOP ATTACHING POLITICAL PLATFORM TO DEBT CEILING!!!! YOU"RE RUINING THE COUNTRY WITH THIS INSANE SIDESHOW!!!
    EVEN REPUBLICANS INCREASED THE DEBT CEILING MANY TIMES IN THE PAST WITHOUT ATTACHING POLITICS!!! NOW YOU HAVE CAUSED THE RATING AGENCIES TO UN-NECESSARILY THINK ABOUT DOWGRADING THE USA!!!! THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE NOW WONDERING IF CAPITALISM WORKS!!!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  11. brian

    Seems like many persons on this board who are against cutting spending can only resort to name calling. If you disagree with the Democratic party, you are either subjected to Jr. High-style name calling or else told to shut up. No wonder we cannot solve our problems as a country.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kiki

      Who is against cutting spending? I haven't read a single post that says that there doesn't need to be spending cuts.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  12. DB402L

    The cause of all this mess is the outsourcing of our jobs. If you lose your job- you lose your home. Gee- housing crisis! If you lose your job- you apply for unemployment, food stamps, heat subsidy, welfare, etc. Gee- too many people sucking off the govt running it dry! If the Corporations don't want to pay higher taxes- just bring the jobs back! The resulting taxes from all those American paychecks would fill the coffers!

    July 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • AZlib

      You are very correct. Our trade policy doesnt work. We have traded our values for profit margins for wall street. We export middle class to Communist China who use slave labor to compete with American Labor. Time the President reviews our trade policy in general. Time for Wall Street to stop running the country. I took every dollar I had out of my 401K and I recomend you do the same!!!! Give Wall Street the message we want American jobs and we still are anti-communism.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  13. CHPPER

    Several of the comments in this site demonstrate the difference in the population of CNN watcher/listener/readers and conservatives; all emotion and no substance to their arguments. How hard is it to realize that there is NO MORE MONEY to spend on a government that grows exponentially in order to fulfill its own prophecies. The ONLY answer is to get rid of all professional politicians with term limits and bring some reason back to decision making that overrides the determination to get re-elected. The disingenous arguments I listened to by our President last night define him...all who bought them define themselves.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Guest

      ...and the same could be said for Boehner and the folks who follow his line of thought. Most people on both sides of the political fence are driven by emotion, which is a big part of the problem. I don't disagree with term limits – we have them for the presidency, why not the House and the Senate, too – but you can't paint only one side with a brush that applies equally well to both. Well, you can, but that would be distinctly partisan.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • scepticalsammie

      Oddly enough, very few conservatives are pro term limits. I wonder why?

      July 26, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • steve harnack

      Yeah, let's have some term limits so we can just have government by corporation and give up this pretense of democracy. Senators and congressmen can just take a leave of absence from the corporation to serve their two terms working with the lobbyists, who will be the only ones who know how to write a bill, and make things sweeter for the industry where their real careers are. Term limits are a terrible idea and take election choices away from the people. Tell you what, get term limits and pledge signers and then we won't even need people there, just program computers to do the job.

      July 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Richard

    Why is it that Washington is always talking about cutting military pay, military retirement pay, Social Secuity pay, Medicare pay, etc. but you never hear their pay or retirement pay being cut back or even talked about. In fact they vote for their own pay raises. Nuf said.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Maria Johnson

    Deal House and Senate

    Please make a promise – to make a difference.

    Please make a promise – to represent the American people and the country which we live in.

    Please make a promise – to listen to what we, the American people, have to say rather than continue to turn a deaf ear to all.

    You and your fellow Senators are there to represent the voice and wishes of the people, NOT to create a platform for your agenda and petty vendettas. What a shameful example you are to the youth of our country. Grown men and women who care only for themselves, without thought as to what their selfish party agendas are doing to our economic infrastructure.

    Stop it NOW.

    Please make a promise – to compromise for the good of this country and of its people. You know that passing this budget through 2012 is in the best interest of this country, our economic stability and our fragile, yet steadily growing recovery.

    Why is our Congress (Republican, Democratic and the worst of the lot – uneducated, childish, selfish Tea Party) hell bent on causing strife and discontent?

    No more posturing and bickering. Our president needs to run a country not a daycare.

    Maybe daycare is what you need – so pay attention: Play nice or get out of the sandbox and go to time out.

    You know what you have to do so we can ALL get back to work on what we were doing- walking the long road back to a stable economy for America.

    Make a promise to make a difference once a for all!

    COMPROMISE

    Maria Johnson
    American first
    Democrat second

    July 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
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