Overheard on CNN.com: Oh for the days of reasonable Republicans!
July 29th, 2011
04:52 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Oh for the days of reasonable Republicans!

Exchange of the Day:

"Four Republicans responded to this article. Yes, Specter is a Republican inside and out. Way to go CNN for balanced column writing."–Hoya4Life

"But look at what even they are saying. Doesn't it make the current Republicans in Congress look like 4-year-olds?"–jeen71

Listen up Washington, we've been there

Former leading policymakers shared how they saw the debt-ceiling impasse. Among them, Democrat Arlen Specter said he would reserve invoking the 14th Amendment as a last-ditch solution. Republican David Stockman said the crisis is in the debt, not the ceiling: "The Republican 'no tax increase' position is preposterous; we are collecting less than 15% of GDP in taxes, the lowest since 1950, and spending 24% of GDP."

CNN.com readers mourned for the days of "reasonable Republicans."

RobertOKUSA said, "David Stockman, I didn't think much of you back in the early '80's, but you did a good job of summing up this problem and offering the obvious solution in only 6 paragraphs!"

jcfl said, "This is the first realistic article I have seen that nails it on the head. if we fail to listen to people that have already been there we are lost. Whether these guys are right or left is not the issue. The facts remain the facts whether they agree with our internal faith-based realities or not."

Vigla02 said, "Very interesting commentary from three Republicans. All reasonable people. (Arlen Specter IS a Republican. He was only a Democrat because the Republicans essentially kicked him out of the caucus.) I long for the days of the reasonable Republican from the '70s and '80s. John McCain is one of the last ones left. The party has been hijacked by extremists. However, I do expect when we are back up to normal voting levels, most of these tea party clowns will be removed from office and replaced by moderates of either party."

irunner said, "I consider myself a moderate Democrat but am considering becoming independent. I was pleasantly surprised that David Stockman spoke my mind. We need more of his wisdom and common sense in government!"

Hoya4Life said, "To me, Stockman's comments say it all. You cannot balance the budget long term without raising taxes on corporations, closing the tax loopholes and strengthening the middle class. The GOP says they are serious about balancing the budget. Really? Either they are lying or dumb or don't know that you have to raise the taxes and kill the Bush tax cuts to get there!"

GoodVAGuy said, "The Circus of Fools, formerly known as the U.S. Congress, is not capable of governing this country. I hope Obama uses the 14th Amendment to say,'Enough foolishness.'"

oldmark said, "Cut our military to a realistic, reasonable size, and bring all overseas troops home now. Drop all Bush tax cuts and increase Social Security contributions and real income tax on those making over $250,000 per year. Enact a new stimulus bill to repair/improve U.S. roads, bridges and electrical power distribution, providing new and well-paying jobs which will stimulate the entire economy and increase revenues by increasing taxes wages and business profits. Get rid of every Tea Party idiot in government."

paul20854 said, "Revenue is what's needed to balance the books, and cuts cannot and will not get the job done. Republicans have now crossed the line and become terrorists as defined in the Patriot Act. They have committed treason and have attempted to destroy the general welfare of the People in direct violation of their oath of office. They have proven their criminality by refusing to serve the people who elected them and the Constitution."

MPfilipina said, "As the value of your 401(k)s sinks into the abyss today, remember those ideologues in the House sent by funny-looking guys in Revolutionary War uniforms. They are about to send this country's economy into free fall and squander your life savings."

D3ADP0OL said, "Our leaders are idiots because we are idiots. We've been cutting education for decades, and now all those kids who never learned history or economics are being voted into office. When the population is so stupid they can't tell a competent leader from a sexy sound byte, you end up with a bunch of empty suit politicians who are only good at spitting rhetoric at each other."

Obama dismisses House debt plan, urges Senate compromise

With a House plan apparently dead in the water, President Obama urged Senate members to take charge of Capitol Hill's debt ceiling negotiations. Many CNN.com readers blamed the gridlock on the Tea Party, suggesting their tactics were treasonous.

sayer said, "When the terrorists attacked on 9/11, they were trying to bring down the U.S. economy. After all our blood, sweat, and tears, are we gonna let them win? Congress, say it isn't so." alexnden said, "Move over al-Qaida, the Tea Party is here."

BonnieMR said, "Compromise! As a member of the GOP, I am disgusted by Boehner and the irresponsible so-called Tea Party. Taxes must go up, entitlements and spending must go down. we will not get out of this mess overnight but Boeher and the Gang's holding the economy hostage and willing to throw us over the cliff is disgusting."

don7664 said, "America was begun with a tea party, America will be ended with the Tea Party."

1967pennant said, "Boehner's website is still not allowing comments unless you are in his district, which pretty much guarantees that he's getting a skewed and inaccurate perspective on national sentiment. I'd expect nothing less of him."

Bruner said, "If faith in America were a commodity, we'd see the price diving every day these idiots continue to stand on their unbudging positions. That in itself is damning to our continued prosperity. Everyone in the world is looking at our situation in awe. I think we're collectively in shock (except for those of us that hold ludicrous positions on either side)."

westvil1 said, "America is a country full of hate and dysfunction. We are broken, ethically exhausted and a joke to the world. Thanks, Tea Party. You certainly know how to destroy."

slapshot69 said, "So, Bush and Company start an 8-year forest fire, try to impede any effort to govern, pass tax breaks for ultra rich–never done at a time of war–then complain Obama didn't put out the fire in 6 months and the 14 trillion is his mess. No shame, just teabag mentality."

HI said, "The president should ask for an entirely clean bill giving a "1" trillion dollar debt limit increase to end the "crisis." Then he tells Congress in front of the nation they have that time to find a real solution that will pass both the Senate and the House and move us toward the goal of no deficit spending."

tambor2 said, "We're at the lowest tax rate in over 50 years."

atlantic1 said, "There are a lot of wealthy people who want to pay more. They were bailed out or helped by lobbyists and loopholes and understand that it's become very unfair. Being responsible and compassionate needs to come back into vogue."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (71 Responses)
  1. s kel

    opps bobcat, as a fellow democrat , you need to chill with the name calling of republicans on this blog, unless they are,tea party, or republican that is totally unreasonable and stupid on here.

    July 30, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      So, just exactly what options does that leave me ???? ANSWER -–ZEEEEEEEEROOOOO LOL

      July 30, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  2. s kel


    July 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Madame Royale

    @s kel:

    You do know that a "skel" is cop talk for a perpetrator?
    Maybe this person was referring to that.
    In any case, good luck with calling CNN; it won't do any good.
    I've been trolled so many times it's a matter of routine anymore.

    July 30, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Madame Royale

    We're all trying to do that....

    July 30, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Eileen Currase

    Those days of reasonalbe Republicans are long gone even before George Bush. Stop requesting things that no longer exist.

    July 30, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Eileen Currase

    I expect from Republicans to take back laws as the ADA Law and so many Civil Rights laws.

    July 30, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |

    The Tea Party's ultra-conservative political, fiscal and social ideology is only surpassed by their self-serving UnAmerican platform. What do you call a member of the Tea Party? A teabag...or...? This was an excerpt of a post I read. I try to stay away from political banter.

    July 31, 2011 at 5:32 am | Report abuse |
  8. Allan

    Of course, we can go far back into history and find a whipping boy to blame for the debt, but subsequent presidents and congress have a responsibility to try to correct, or at least, manage these situations. The tea party is fighting the symptoms without looking for a cure that won't kill the patient.

    In real life, GW Bush went out of his way to exacerbate the situation by running up horrendous debt with his war in Iraq and then starving government of income by his tax give-aways. That the GOP now adopts a "no tax increase" mantra in this context is just plain folly, and dangerous folly at that.

    July 31, 2011 at 8:34 am | Report abuse |
  9. Ruth Runyon

    The President should ask Congress and the Senate to lay their Benifits oon the table. As they have layed Social Security and Medicare on the table.The older people bears the burden.

    July 31, 2011 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Anwar of Quetta

      You Americans are funny and hopeless! You fight wars by yourself that you cannot win and give money to those citizens who refuse to work. No wonder you are on a slippery downward slope.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  10. C. A. Geier

    I have only one question for all legislative & executive elected Public Servants who all pledged an oath of servitude to the American People when they were elected as we We are now facing this long-overdue day of reckoning now squarely in the global spotlight.

    Can You honestly say that you have objectively and humbly, searched deeply in you soul without predetermined bias and ACTED (we have had quite enough of rhetoric) to uphold your duty of service to all Americans in a sincere and meaningful spirit of co-operation to finally deliver Good & Fiscally Responsible Government (long missing for too many decades) that also ensures we have a Just, Fair and Compassionate Society?

    We the Citizens are watching closing with great hope, but unfortunately also with deep skepticism and fear following too many years of hollow rhetoric and self-serving highly politicized actions that have resulted in severe adverse consequences for Americans today and generations to come ... for which You have not beared proportionately.


    July 31, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Jazzzzzzzz


      July 31, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • JimBob

      Waiting for the American spring!

      August 2, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Jazzzzzzzz

    opps sh!t, my finger slipped.. I was going to continue on to say; this will be by far the COMMENT OF THE DAY! Well done C.A. Geier

    July 31, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Tina Pappas

    I've heard the President has no experience....at what? Ruining our economy...so we keep the same guys in and continue to crash, crash, crash....Give him a chance and if he fails, then the Republicans can celebrate victory, instead of trying to find dirt on him, like a ridiculous affair with an intern, or something. hmmmmm

    August 1, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  13. LarryO

    Why don't you promiscuous chickies buy a bag of ballons for your guys? If you go to Dollar General you can get 100 for 99 cents. I don't want to support your habits with my tax dollars. Obama don't care because he was just a community organizer (not a real job) and never grew up an American. Defeat socialism in 2012!

    August 2, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  14. JimBob

    Overheard on CNN! when will you clowns just deliver the news without any partisian comments. You are not a newstation but a voice for liberal thought!

    August 2, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  15. C Goodrich

    When both Republicans and Democrats have been foolishly irresponsible about spending over the past several decades, and now the national debt is so huge that just paying interest on it (not even talking about paying it off here!) becomes an enormous segment of the GDP, why is anyone surprised that normal, rational people want to hold Congress finally responsible for a budget?? It is ridiculous that the liberal talking heads call anyone a "terrrorist" who doesn't cave into the silly threats that the world will end unless you agree to still racking up tons of debt without a plan or prayer of paying it off? Why will the world end if Medicaid and Social Security are not allowed to increase without restraint? If someone engages in a Ponzi scheme, they get thrown in jail. But Congress has played a Ponzi game for decades, and when responsible Americans who pay taxes and live within their means call Congress' bluff and hold them accountable, *they* are called "terrorists" (give me a break!). Why aren't the so-called intellectuals calling for criminal negligence of Congress? The only difference between them and Bernie Madoff is that the destination of the money is not as directly tied to the criminal. In the case of Congress, the money has been used for re-election propaganda and pork. Regardless of the destination of the money, theft is still theft, and borrowing against the future with no plan or likelihood of paying off the debt is theft.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
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