Overheard on CNN.com: Oh for the days of reasonable Republicans!
July 29th, 2011
04:52 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Oh for the days of reasonable Republicans!

Exchange of the Day:

"Four Republicans responded to this article. Yes, Specter is a Republican inside and out. Way to go CNN for balanced column writing."–Hoya4Life

"But look at what even they are saying. Doesn't it make the current Republicans in Congress look like 4-year-olds?"–jeen71

Listen up Washington, we've been there

Former leading policymakers shared how they saw the debt-ceiling impasse. Among them, Democrat Arlen Specter said he would reserve invoking the 14th Amendment as a last-ditch solution. Republican David Stockman said the crisis is in the debt, not the ceiling: "The Republican 'no tax increase' position is preposterous; we are collecting less than 15% of GDP in taxes, the lowest since 1950, and spending 24% of GDP."

CNN.com readers mourned for the days of "reasonable Republicans."

RobertOKUSA said, "David Stockman, I didn't think much of you back in the early '80's, but you did a good job of summing up this problem and offering the obvious solution in only 6 paragraphs!"

jcfl said, "This is the first realistic article I have seen that nails it on the head. if we fail to listen to people that have already been there we are lost. Whether these guys are right or left is not the issue. The facts remain the facts whether they agree with our internal faith-based realities or not."

Vigla02 said, "Very interesting commentary from three Republicans. All reasonable people. (Arlen Specter IS a Republican. He was only a Democrat because the Republicans essentially kicked him out of the caucus.) I long for the days of the reasonable Republican from the '70s and '80s. John McCain is one of the last ones left. The party has been hijacked by extremists. However, I do expect when we are back up to normal voting levels, most of these tea party clowns will be removed from office and replaced by moderates of either party."

irunner said, "I consider myself a moderate Democrat but am considering becoming independent. I was pleasantly surprised that David Stockman spoke my mind. We need more of his wisdom and common sense in government!"

Hoya4Life said, "To me, Stockman's comments say it all. You cannot balance the budget long term without raising taxes on corporations, closing the tax loopholes and strengthening the middle class. The GOP says they are serious about balancing the budget. Really? Either they are lying or dumb or don't know that you have to raise the taxes and kill the Bush tax cuts to get there!"

GoodVAGuy said, "The Circus of Fools, formerly known as the U.S. Congress, is not capable of governing this country. I hope Obama uses the 14th Amendment to say,'Enough foolishness.'"

oldmark said, "Cut our military to a realistic, reasonable size, and bring all overseas troops home now. Drop all Bush tax cuts and increase Social Security contributions and real income tax on those making over $250,000 per year. Enact a new stimulus bill to repair/improve U.S. roads, bridges and electrical power distribution, providing new and well-paying jobs which will stimulate the entire economy and increase revenues by increasing taxes wages and business profits. Get rid of every Tea Party idiot in government."

paul20854 said, "Revenue is what's needed to balance the books, and cuts cannot and will not get the job done. Republicans have now crossed the line and become terrorists as defined in the Patriot Act. They have committed treason and have attempted to destroy the general welfare of the People in direct violation of their oath of office. They have proven their criminality by refusing to serve the people who elected them and the Constitution."

MPfilipina said, "As the value of your 401(k)s sinks into the abyss today, remember those ideologues in the House sent by funny-looking guys in Revolutionary War uniforms. They are about to send this country's economy into free fall and squander your life savings."

D3ADP0OL said, "Our leaders are idiots because we are idiots. We've been cutting education for decades, and now all those kids who never learned history or economics are being voted into office. When the population is so stupid they can't tell a competent leader from a sexy sound byte, you end up with a bunch of empty suit politicians who are only good at spitting rhetoric at each other."

Obama dismisses House debt plan, urges Senate compromise

With a House plan apparently dead in the water, President Obama urged Senate members to take charge of Capitol Hill's debt ceiling negotiations. Many CNN.com readers blamed the gridlock on the Tea Party, suggesting their tactics were treasonous.

sayer said, "When the terrorists attacked on 9/11, they were trying to bring down the U.S. economy. After all our blood, sweat, and tears, are we gonna let them win? Congress, say it isn't so." alexnden said, "Move over al-Qaida, the Tea Party is here."

BonnieMR said, "Compromise! As a member of the GOP, I am disgusted by Boehner and the irresponsible so-called Tea Party. Taxes must go up, entitlements and spending must go down. we will not get out of this mess overnight but Boeher and the Gang's holding the economy hostage and willing to throw us over the cliff is disgusting."

don7664 said, "America was begun with a tea party, America will be ended with the Tea Party."

1967pennant said, "Boehner's website is still not allowing comments unless you are in his district, which pretty much guarantees that he's getting a skewed and inaccurate perspective on national sentiment. I'd expect nothing less of him."

Bruner said, "If faith in America were a commodity, we'd see the price diving every day these idiots continue to stand on their unbudging positions. That in itself is damning to our continued prosperity. Everyone in the world is looking at our situation in awe. I think we're collectively in shock (except for those of us that hold ludicrous positions on either side)."

westvil1 said, "America is a country full of hate and dysfunction. We are broken, ethically exhausted and a joke to the world. Thanks, Tea Party. You certainly know how to destroy."

slapshot69 said, "So, Bush and Company start an 8-year forest fire, try to impede any effort to govern, pass tax breaks for ultra rich–never done at a time of war–then complain Obama didn't put out the fire in 6 months and the 14 trillion is his mess. No shame, just teabag mentality."

HI said, "The president should ask for an entirely clean bill giving a "1" trillion dollar debt limit increase to end the "crisis." Then he tells Congress in front of the nation they have that time to find a real solution that will pass both the Senate and the House and move us toward the goal of no deficit spending."

tambor2 said, "We're at the lowest tax rate in over 50 years."

atlantic1 said, "There are a lot of wealthy people who want to pay more. They were bailed out or helped by lobbyists and loopholes and understand that it's become very unfair. Being responsible and compassionate needs to come back into vogue."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (71 Responses)
  1. Madame Royale

    The fact that people think Ronald Reagan was the greatest President in recent history is telling, I think.

    July 29, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  2. tzME... in Africa

    Aaaah .... Democracy! ... American style ... Born a Republican/Democrat .... always a Republican/Democrat ! The "art' of critical, issue based thinking is lo'oooong gone, America .. if it were there in the first place. The Republicans (read that as Bush) ... screw up the country, the country promptly re-elects him to carry on the process, then a knee jerk panic election of Democrat .. (and he's 'black at that! ) .. and the Republicans promptly tell him how to fix it! Give this farce to Disney ! Clowns, you're not only putting your foot in it, you're up to your nostrils in it, and you're determined to take the world with you. Oh well, perhaps now's as good a time as any to shed the use of, and reliance on the US$ as a world currency. Indeed, shed the US, never mind it's $. Period! ... It's the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Sheep.... Irreverent? Angry? You're damned right I am.

    July 30, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Black Ops 4302 Gamer Nerd Alert

      @tzME: You're obviously not familiar with how America functions as a country. Our congress has the power to start and stop all actions. We have many failsafe measures in place that prevent any president from behaving like a king or warlord. What you are seeing is theater and nothing more. Bush didn't do anything the congress didn't slow him to do.

      July 30, 2011 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  3. C. Finley

    I say they should cut all of our education money, Social Security, Medicare, etc, and continue to let the rich off the hook. I vote cut cut cut – then we will see real change happen in this country. Total revolution.

    July 30, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
  4. revolution?

    We can't afford to revolt. Get real..

    July 30, 2011 at 4:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Philip

      Hi I'm Philip and we can't afford to arm the people (even though many are already armed including retired military members, hunters, and criminals). We also can't afford neat 1776 style uniforms (which would be irrelevant because simple camouflage clothing would suffice). We also don't have any air power or a navy (Also irrelevant because many top military brass have openly stated that they will never fire on US citizens). What about food and rations? (We live in the most fertile country in the world so food wont be a big issue as water wouldn't either because we're surrounded by fresh water. Basically what I'm saying is I'm a cowardly fool who likes to spread conspiracy propaganda, but then silences any talk of revolution.. See how I operate?

      July 30, 2011 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  5. Nancy Pelosi

    Revolt? We Democrats will send in the African Union troops and Chineese Military. We Democrats will disarm you!

    July 30, 2011 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |
  6. Lisa R

    When is Washington going to realize that party agendas and promises are out the window. It is time to work together as leaders to find the "right" answer for the good of all. I saw a lady on the news last night resign from her political party she was so disgusted with our leaders kindergarten mentality. If we all withdraw from our political parties and refuse to vote in the next election, a compromise will quickly be found. We talk about starting over with a new debt bill, maybe we should start over beginning in our next election.

    July 30, 2011 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Alpha Beta

      Good luck with that Lisa. We've been changing it up every election and nothing has changed. They act and deceive in this partisan theater. Just watch they will come together and agree at the last minute.

      July 30, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  7. s kel

    Thats not Philip in the above post it is a troll... ME I am the troll who takes peoples names he he

    July 30, 2011 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  8. genewest

    87 villages recalled their idiots to make way for adult discussions in Washington...

    July 30, 2011 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  9. bobcat2u

    Reasonable Republican ????? Now there is a a contradiction in terms !!!!!! Those two words just don't go together.

    July 30, 2011 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  10. Walter Smitty

    Ignorant Democrats now those words do go together.

    July 30, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Ooooooh !!!! Good comeback. Took all day to come up with that one, huh ?

      July 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Mason : Anarchist Party

    Hey. I used to be a long term Democrat, my Granddad was a Republican, one of the old school ones. Personally, I've left the democratic party, and encourage all republicans and democrats to leave their own current political parties. I'm in favor of a nation of self governance. But if we're unable to govern ourselves, we should move our current political system to state governments only. The Republic of California, The Republic of Washington, The Republic of Ohio, etc, and execute our current leadership in Washington D.C. The Republicans for stealing the money taxes have taken out of my paychecks (Social security, Medicare etc) and the Democrats for letting them. Line all of them up and blow their brains out. This has serveral benifits. We can adapt our politics to our current state climates, and in case of "Intransigencent" political parties, the civilians of each republic can more easily 'dispose' of their 'leaders'.

    July 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Madame Royale

    you lost me at "execute", but I should have expected nothing less from someone who has "Anarchist" in their name.

    July 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      LOL Lovin it !!!!! Hello your Highness. How are you today ?

      July 30, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Madame Royale

    I'm just ducky, thanks, bobcat2u.
    How's it going in bobcatland?

    July 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Still trying to scratch out a living. LOL

      July 30, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  14. s kel

    there are good and bad to both parties. im a democrat, consider myself to be modertly liberal and support some republican ideals. i own two regsitered weapons, am in favor of the death penality to name some. i dont allways agree withthe far left element of the democratic party at all times, ive voted for best person in local and state elections mostly democrat but republican a few times. but lately after pres. Obama was elected in 2008 it seems a hard right wing that was allready there allowed anew cancer hateful and malignent in nature ( the damn tea party) has overtaken, it seems, the republican party.. gone with them are any reasonable negoiations or conpermises. and than coperate leadership has decided to use the tea party to their advantage for more power and wealth, how sad to allow a small radical group to influence a political party to eleminate a two or even three party political system just for a one party rule in this nation. yes there are reasonable republicans, but like hunted rabbits in hunt they now have to go into hiding.

    July 30, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  15. s kel

    walter smitty , just chill out , this blog was on hateful, narrow minded, unreasonable republicans like your showing your self to be now.

    July 30, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
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