Overheard on CNN.com: 'From dropout ... to cult leader'
Steve Jobs is stepping down as Apple's CEO.
August 25th, 2011
05:34 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: 'From dropout ... to cult leader'

Comment of the Day

"I keep wondering about all of the advice he must have had after he dropped out of college. 'Steve, you can't go on like this, you'll never amount to anything.' 'Grow up, Steve. ... Get a job, settle down, make a family.' LOL. Score one for the 'slacker.' Good job, Mr. Jobs. Get well. Keep moving forward."–PhooBar

Steve Jobs: From college dropout to tech visionary

After a lifetime as a technology wizard, Steve Jobs is stepping down as CEO at Apple. His path was not a steady climb to the top. Rather, he dropped out of college after one semester and quit a job to backpack through India, before starting Apple Computer in his parents' garage with partner Steve Wozniak. Many CNN.com readers had wonderful things to say about Jobs and his products. Almost as many did not.

CaptainFSU said, "From dropout to visionary to cult leader..."

PhilipBaker said, "We all owe a great deal to Steve Jobs for all he has done for us through Apple. A truly great, tenacious man, dedicated to excellence."

PakiLegacy said, "As much as I dislike Apple products, it is sad to see him leave. He is a true visionary and a brilliant person. He truly redesigned the way we see computers."

tmmcis said, "I have a lot more respect for Wozniak, as an engineer and as a person."

AngryDeuce said, "Wozniak was the technical brains, Steve was the 'make it pretty and I'll sell it' guy. You should read up on their history. For instance, Steve Jobs and the Woz got their start together building blue boxes and ripping off the phone company by phreaking. Funny how he started a hacker and then 30 years later goes apoplectic over people rooting his phones."

HiFive0 said, "His legacy, when one looks outside of his products, is a very dark one, and a shameful one, too. Since when is it cool to exploit your workers for 80 cents and hour, make children work 90 hours a week? The dark side of Jobs is plenty long, Zombie Apple followers."

minguey replied, "What are you writing this comment on? A magical device from Mars? INTEL, CISCO, MICROSOFT, SONY, NOKIA, NINTENDO, ACER, HP, DELL, AMAZON–All of them: Built in the exact same factory, Foxconn, China. That makes you the biggest hypocrite in this place today."
While geeks argued over the technical merits of Apple's technical merits, artistic types spoke up for Apple products.

Guest said, "Steve Jobs has impacted my work hugely. I am a writer and photographer. I can't imagine life without my MacBook Pro, and I can't imagine viewing photos on anything other than an Apple screen. Thanks, Mr. Jobs for your outstanding products that would never have been realized without your energy and vision. You have shown the USA what is needed to turn the economy around. Brilliant, high-quality products, excellent service, inspiring designs –sexy machines. Wishing you well."

femi94ce said, "In 1989 I overcame my fear and loathing of computers, thanks to the Apple II and Adobe Illustrator. People forget that a lot of Apple's early success came from the graphic arts community who were not interested in how computers worked; they just wanted a computer that worked for their purposes. Apple gave designers a product that enabled them to function like right-brainers in a left-brain milieu. I think that calligraphy class paid off. Thanks for everything, Steve. You're a mensch."

Cursive vs. typing: Which should schools teach?

iReport's cultural census took a look at people's handwriting and asked whether technology was making cursive irrelevant. Eighty percent of schools in the U.S. are adopting the Common Core curriculum and phasing out cursive in favor of computer skills. Some CNN.com readers thought it was still important to learn cursive, for a variety of reasons, but most thought cursive would go the way of the horse and carriage.

orionsgirl62 asked, "What if our bright little minds actually need to write a letter instead of texting it? This is another useless idea brought to us by the same bright minds who thought of Ebonics, No Child Left Behind and all the other bright ideas that have loused up our education for the last forty years."

justageek said, "I'm sure my great-great-grandfather said something like that about needing to know how to shoe a horse when that horseless carriage thingy came out."

RVenger said, "When the power is out and your batteries have died, then what? Cursive is no more archaic or useless than learning math skills. Why bother learning to add, subtract, divide or multiply when you can let a $3 calculator do it for you?"

BrainSlurper said, "I spent my entire 3rd grade learning cursive. The teacher promised I would use it for the rest of my life. I literally have not used it once since."

k8gladst1 said, "Handwriting matters, but does cursive matter? Research shows: the fastest and most legible handwriters avoid cursive. They join only some letters, not all of them: making the easiest joins, skipping the rest, and using print-like shapes for those letters whose cursive and printed shapes disagree. Reading cursive still matters, but this takes no more than 60 minutes to learn, and can be taught to a five- or six-year-old if the child knows how to read. The value of reading cursive is therefore no justification for writing it."

othello99 added, "While there's nothing wrong with learning to write looped cursive–a difficult to learn and hard to write hand that resembles copperplate engraving–I'm surprised more schools don't teach cursive italic, a beautiful and functional form of handwriting. It's easy to learn, quick to write, and beautiful to read."

ccsuny said, "Stop teaching cursive. That way we adults can write secret messages to each other."

5 questions to ask before having penis surgery

In the spotlight this week was a courtroom story about a man who went under the knife for a circumcision but awoke missing part of his penis (his doctor found cancer). CNN Senior Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen followed this up with a column on what to ask before having penis surgery. CNN.com readers were ready with their own questions.

Guest suggested, " 1. Are you SURE it's necessary? 2. Really sure? 3. Really REALLY sure? 4. I mean, will it kill you? 5. Seriously?"

SweatyGuy added, "“You want to do what?” “Do I look stupid?” “Will it still work?” “Bigger, right?” and “Are you high? Seriously, are you high?”

RUjokingIam said, " 1. Will it hurt? 2. Will it hurt? 3. Will it hurt? 4. Will it hurt? 5. Did my wife put you up to this?

ebc1973 suggested, "Am I going to have a penis when I wake up?"

miznic said, "Implants? What, two popsicle sticks and duct tape wouldn't work?

debbie149 said, "You do know why women make lousy carpenters don't you? We've been lied to all our lives about what 6" is."

GravLit quoted the story, " 'We're inserting a foreign body into the penis' and added, " I prefer it the other way around. Giggity."

MinnyHockey said, "My neighbor had unsuccesful surgery. His name is Les Johnson."

releena195 said, "Well good morning CNN! I didn't expect penis talk so early in the morning. Usually this is a late night thing, haha." lurgy said, "I was delighted to find this in the list, guaranteed fun."

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Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (8 Responses)
  1. gung hoe

    I knew a man very similar to JOBS Only thing Jobs droped college and my friemd dropped high school Jobs became rich he had the midas touch Just like my friend Any venture my friend got involved with just always seemed to workout for him

    August 25, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
  2. kim

    Well maybe he will go and do some charity work. I personaly never brought apple products they where too expensive and really did not fit my lifestyle. Also they did not have anything that exciting to me to want to spend alot of money on I guess boring is the word I'm looking for. I feel that way about gateway and those stupid Iproduct that everyone make a fuss about do absolutely nothing for me. Uninteresting. Anyway that just my opinion. If I got the crap for free I probably still would not use it.

    August 25, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
  3. stevejobsinc

    I have been following the behaviour and misbehaviour of fellow adoptee, Steve Jobs, ever since I saw the film about him and Bill Gates – Pirates Of Silicon Valley. My blog, stevejobsinc.blogspot.com , follows his epic story since his trip to India. I don't own any of his product, I just find the guy intriguing.

    August 25, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Satan

    I'm a dropout and a cult leader too. Muahahaha.. I dropped out of heaven (Actually I was kicked out) and now I run cults all over the world.. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism.. All me baby!.. bwahahaha..

    August 25, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Canadian Genius

    Im way smarter than that american tuuuurd stevie jobs. All of you americans seem like weiner touchers to me. In CANADA the beautiful we ruuuuuule !

    August 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Tom

    So like I said yesterday when the announcement hit, how are those new iShorts you guys wearing today?

    August 26, 2011 at 1:57 am | Report abuse |
  7. the prophet

    Aple is going to have major fiscal problems, new product releae will be delayed due to new suppliers miss deadlines and miss manufacture to Aple specs will affect revenue. Aple is being looked at by AT&T

    August 26, 2011 at 6:55 am | Report abuse |
  8. Sumero Kolcak

    Maybe if he had listened to the advice given, he wouldn't have liver problems now. LOL!!!!!

    – Sumero Kolcako

    August 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm | Report abuse |