Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman
LZ Granderson says GOP presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should consider running as an independent.
August 30th, 2011
11:11 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman

Comment of the day:

“Huntsman would have been a moderate Republican 40 years ago, now he's a socialist to his own party.” - pus512

An independent Huntsman has a chance

In his column this week, LZ Granderson says GOP Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should flee his party and run as an independent. He says he’s disappointed by some of President Obama’s choices but can’t support any of the other GOP candidates. Feeling politically trapped, Granderson says an independent Huntsman could help.

And many CNN.com readers agreed:

elperroguapo said, “I would vote for Huntsman. I voted for Obama last election. And I'll vote for him again, because the GOP is going to offer some moron who believes the job of the POTUS is to Evangelicalize the nation.”

slowshow responded, “I'll probably vote for Obama again, but Huntsman and Mitt are the only Republican candidates that don't scare the hell out of me.”

bluekhakis said, “Huntsman seems to be the last of a dying breed – the Goldwater and Lincoln Republican. If only we could lessen the static coming from the Moral Majority, we could move things along in this country. We'll still disagree with each other, but at least our debates would be focused on policy and not on who is or is not a Nazi.”

gizmo420 said, “If the Republicans elect Mitt Romney, Ron Paul or Jon Huntsman they will win the White House in 2012. If they elect a batsh!t candidate like Perry or Bachman, it'll be another 4 years for Obama.”

Corvus1 responded, “Ron Paul isn't batsh!t? Really?”

whodey responded, “Ron Paul is a certifiable wingnut, a cult-leader. Romney is a chameleon who believes whatever you want him to believe. He was a liberal when running for Mass governor, now he is a right hardliner. Huntsman is the only sensible guy.”

gizmo420 said, “Huntsman believes in global warming, evolution and diplomacy over militarism. Those are three things that make him unacceptable to Republicans. The fact that he is a Mormon won't help either.”

SpaceViking said, “I would vote for Huntsman. He reminds me of the Republicans we used to get instead of today's pack of anti-science (anti-thought, really) fools.”

CrunkSwaggaG said, “Huntsman's in the wrong party. He's a Bill Clinton Democrat at heart. We need more people like him, in the center. Socially liberal but fiscally conservative.”

FeralUrchin said, “Bingo. I keep thinking that someday, maybe someday soon, an unconventional ticket will win the WH. Maybe Huntsman/Hillary or Colin Powell/Huntsman? Some day this country is going to pull it out and hammer both the Republicans and Democrats (I hope!).”

moondancer42 said, “I was planning on sleeping through this election (and never turning on the TV) but now I think I will watch this Huntsman guy. The tea partyers scare me and the Democrats disappoint me, this guy seems to be a good combination...fiscal conservative and scientifically aware...could be something.”

logicrules2 said, “I voted for Obama and couldn't be more disappointed. Would very much consider voting for Huntsman if he showed he could reign in the GOP and the Tea Party idiots! Those two groups have brought us to near collapse.”

southerngeek said, “While Huntsman's intelligence is indeed a whiff of cool oxygen in a stifling room full of hot air, the facts are that third parties are little more than oddities in our current system. Perot was a billionaire who ran on his own wallet and still made little more than a dent in the system. Teddy Roosevelt was the last time a third party candidate mounted a truly serious run at the White House.”

Cheeze68 responded, “Southerngeek while you are correct, if you don't try you can never accomplish! If we as American's stop worrying so much about being on one side or the other, and realize ANY vote is not a wasted vote, then and ONLY then will we start getting better candidates.”

Carl007 said, “It's time to put an end to this 'Door #1' or 'Door #2' shell game the Demon-crats and Republicants play every four years. They're scared of a solid third party because a third party will shine a bright light on what a huge disservice both of ‘the usual suspect parties’ have been doing to the American voter.”

Don’t blame the forecaster

Some people say Hurricane Irene was over-hyped, even by meteorologists. But Dean Obeidallah, award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show," cautioned people about blasting weather guys. Predicting the unpredictable can be tricky business, and disrespecting them could be a mistake.

Although some said the Irene coverage was too much, many CNN.com readers agreed with Obeidallah and said they admired their forecasters.

Groomten3 said, “See, anyone who saw what happened during Katrina cannot possibly believe there is such a thing as exaggeration when it comes to hurricanes. I'd rather have people preparing for the worst than watching helpless people screaming for help on live TV.”

mrichinct said, “The media did a great job on keeping people informed of what was happening. People lost lives all the way up the coast. People lost their homes and businesses. Millions were and are still out of power. How can anyone possibly criticize the news media for reporting on Irene? If not for the forewarning, the situation could have been a lot worse.”

infamous111 said, “Hey guys....anyone remember that storm called Katrina? You know, the category 3 hurricane that forecasters nailed perfectly up to 96 hours in advance, but many people ignored along the Gulf coast. Or how about the tornado outbreak that ripped through Alabama, which was forecasted perfectly and saved thousands of lives?

Additionally, I'm a bit confused at the outrage over Irene's forecast. By and large, the storm did exactly what they said it would do. Forecasters from the National Hurricane Center warned of hurricane force winds up the Atlantic Seaboard, with tropical storm force winds once the storm made landfall in New England. This is exactly what happened. The media whipped up all the stories of impending death and destruction, not forecasters.

Besides, I think we should stop treating 10B in damage and 36 lost lives as no big deal, or nothing serious. Shame on us.”

tosspot said, “I think the problem is not accuracy, as it definitely is impossible to predict storm movement with 100 percent accuracy. The bigger problem is the relentless hyperbole and the sensationalistic way the forecasts are presented. Not every storm that comes along can be the biggest, most threatening cataclysm ever seen by man. I realize it gets ratings, but it really needs to be toned down before people start ignoring it completely.”

RKW29 responded, “And would if it had turned out to be the worse? There was certainly the possibility it could have strengthened rather than weakened. And for many people in Vermont and upstate New York with the flooding, this WAS the worse in memory.

Apple fighting theft in China

Apple products are enormously popular in China; so is counterfeiting them. According to a WikiLeaks cables, Apple was slow to act but eventually organized a team in March 2008 to curtail knockoff iPods and iPhones. Still, counterfeiting is a mounting problem for the tech company.

Most CNN.com readers said they aren’t very sympathetic:

SeriouslyRU said, “Paying excruciatingly low wages to generate obscene profits which do not even filter down to Apples core workforce but benefit the very select few at the top and the oligarchic shareholds. Somehow we should shed a tear? The only people who lose here are the plutocratic elite, who fly private jets and have mansions on the ocean. Boo hooo.”

mdanby said, “1. What these pirates do is immoral and wrong. 2. This theft of IP and damage to Apple's image caused by association of shoddy products with the Apple brand definitely does affect the ‘core’ worker's of Apple as stock option holders. Futhremore this theft also affects Apple shareholders. This is far from a victimless crime.”

JimmyOlson said, “Apple has an opportunity now to tell China if they don't take this piracy much more serious Apple will relocate their manufacturing operations out of China. Who knows maybe Apple will bring the jobs back to the USA. Maybe that might lead to other companies doing the same thing. We can still dream of this happening at the very least.”

Spawned said, “Apple (and other American companies) are going into China for cheap labor and virtually no pollution oversight. The Chinese people are stealing Apple's technology and selling counterfeit Apple products. Who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, they deserve each other don't they! Lotsa Love.”

60minuteman said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword. I have no sympathy for any company manufacturing in China.”

PROFESSIONAL said, “Here's an idea. Why not make less profit by paying the American people to manufacturer the product instead of being greedy and paying the Chinese pennies to make it and and then steal it from you? Apple makes like 40-50 percent margin on this stuff. They can afford to make it in the US so I don't feel sorry for them.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (49 Responses)
  1. s kel

    In the end, hes just another teabagger ass licker.

    August 30, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aizen

      Wow, you've got some intelligence. And such a wonderful vocabulary, too! Enjoy voting for more Hope and Change BS!

      August 31, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
  2. Jean Sartre

    I could NOT see myself voting for Mr. Huntsman: he was certainly more than willing to accept a prestigious job from President Obama... and then, promptly started a long campaign of dissing Obama, simply to get a leg up in the Republic presidential campaign.

    Man that is some thanks, loyalty not to mention class... what a great President he would be: for Libya!

    August 31, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
  3. :-)

    Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should , therefore be construed by the rules of common sense , their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure. Thomas Jefferson 1823

    August 31, 2011 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Thomas Jefferson was off-based. The extent and the degree the laws of men reflect God's statues and decrees represent perfection of humanity who is the image of God. The extent and degree to which the laws of men humanity and opposes God's statues and decrees represent the depravity of men whose image are corrupt...further their laws corrupts and destroys the very humanity whose intent and sole purpose is to serve and protect. The first is wisdom the second is common sense.

      August 31, 2011 at 5:42 am | Report abuse |
  4. jj

    whosman???

    August 31, 2011 at 4:47 am | Report abuse |
  5. Mmmmm

    ...and how does the psychedelic hibiscus wall flower relate to the Huntman's article? is this to indicate his political platform and costume is somehow still under construction? Or to indicate he's the spawn of the infamous Woodstock era?

    August 31, 2011 at 5:57 am | Report abuse |
  6. :-)

    Mmmmmm I for one beg to differ Thomas Jefferson was a man of great wisdom , way ahead of his time . If only we had leaders today like him we would be all the better !

    August 31, 2011 at 5:58 am | Report abuse |
  7. :-)

    When the people fear the government , there is tyranny ; when the government fears the people , there is liberty .

    August 31, 2011 at 6:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      You sound like an anarchist who enjoy pitting the left hand against the right...Jefferson is just a man...with many flaws...Mr. Differ.

      August 31, 2011 at 6:25 am | Report abuse |
  8. A mighty hunter (*) 2012

    Sorry – that job is already filled by an unelected military regime.

    Define "civilization" > secrecy for a few like "business secrets"

    Define "heathens" > total transparency as claimed by the few about the many "others".

    So in these days of ever expanding secrecy, there appears to be an ever expanding supply of the "heathens"...

    And that is the true meaning of "civilization".... under the big top circus tents of more jobs in Russia.

    Howdy "comrads"...... !!!!

    August 31, 2011 at 6:17 am | Report abuse |
  9. :-)

    Mmmmmm True wisdom is gained through common sense , without common sense you have neither , so I'd say common sense is first , and then you can achieve wisdom .

    August 31, 2011 at 6:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Mr. Differ, you have alot to learn...true wisdom is a gift from God...man's "wisdom" is folly...and common sense is wisdom of a fool.

      August 31, 2011 at 6:30 am | Report abuse |
  10. George Patton

    One might as well vote for Jon Huntsman as he cannot possibly do any worse than the sorry job Obama's doing now in the White House. Over the last three years we've a lot of needless death and destruction overseas all because this Obama had a vendetta against the Muslims! But where did that come from? Could it be because Obama is still mad at his father who is a Muslim himself? We know that it came from somewhere.

    August 31, 2011 at 6:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      Thank you, George. I never thought of that. The only thing I kmew up to now is that Barack Obama did harbor a huge grudge toward the Muslims but I didn't know why.

      August 31, 2011 at 8:04 am | Report abuse |
  11. :-)

    Mmmmmm common sense is a god given gift some have it others do not .

    August 31, 2011 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Farmer Differ, didn't you read every fool has it?

      August 31, 2011 at 7:05 am | Report abuse |
  12. :-)

    Mmmmmm I can tell your one who's never wrong !

    August 31, 2011 at 6:50 am | Report abuse |
  13. :-)

    So Mmmmmm are you saying our predecessors , let's say John F. Kennedy and before didn't make more sense than the power hungry bluffsters in office today , they are keeping us in the dark , feeding us bull and we like being mushrooms .

    August 31, 2011 at 7:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      I can't talk to you! you're a bubble and are going off topic...adieu!

      August 31, 2011 at 7:09 am | Report abuse |
  14. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    I wish that Republicans–my real party–would learn from this attention to Huntsman.
    The extreme Tea Party line cannot win a presidential election.
    Obama has pragmatically become more centrist.
    Republicans should do the same.
    I support Obama's campaign.

    August 31, 2011 at 7:20 am | Report abuse |
    • George Patton

      Come on Joey, as one can plainly see, there are neither centrists nor liberals running for President this time around, only right-wing fanatics! The Republicans are just a little more extreme than Obama. No matter who's elected next year, this country will only suffer!

      August 31, 2011 at 8:00 am | Report abuse |
  15. michaelfury

    11:11

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/ghosts-in-the-machine/

    August 31, 2011 at 7:21 am | Report abuse |
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