Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman
LZ Granderson says GOP presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should consider running as an independent.
August 30th, 2011
11:11 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: We would vote for Huntsman

Comment of the day:

“Huntsman would have been a moderate Republican 40 years ago, now he's a socialist to his own party.” - pus512

An independent Huntsman has a chance

In his column this week, LZ Granderson says GOP Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman should flee his party and run as an independent. He says he’s disappointed by some of President Obama’s choices but can’t support any of the other GOP candidates. Feeling politically trapped, Granderson says an independent Huntsman could help.

And many CNN.com readers agreed:

elperroguapo said, “I would vote for Huntsman. I voted for Obama last election. And I'll vote for him again, because the GOP is going to offer some moron who believes the job of the POTUS is to Evangelicalize the nation.”

slowshow responded, “I'll probably vote for Obama again, but Huntsman and Mitt are the only Republican candidates that don't scare the hell out of me.”

bluekhakis said, “Huntsman seems to be the last of a dying breed – the Goldwater and Lincoln Republican. If only we could lessen the static coming from the Moral Majority, we could move things along in this country. We'll still disagree with each other, but at least our debates would be focused on policy and not on who is or is not a Nazi.”

gizmo420 said, “If the Republicans elect Mitt Romney, Ron Paul or Jon Huntsman they will win the White House in 2012. If they elect a batsh!t candidate like Perry or Bachman, it'll be another 4 years for Obama.”

Corvus1 responded, “Ron Paul isn't batsh!t? Really?”

whodey responded, “Ron Paul is a certifiable wingnut, a cult-leader. Romney is a chameleon who believes whatever you want him to believe. He was a liberal when running for Mass governor, now he is a right hardliner. Huntsman is the only sensible guy.”

gizmo420 said, “Huntsman believes in global warming, evolution and diplomacy over militarism. Those are three things that make him unacceptable to Republicans. The fact that he is a Mormon won't help either.”

SpaceViking said, “I would vote for Huntsman. He reminds me of the Republicans we used to get instead of today's pack of anti-science (anti-thought, really) fools.”

CrunkSwaggaG said, “Huntsman's in the wrong party. He's a Bill Clinton Democrat at heart. We need more people like him, in the center. Socially liberal but fiscally conservative.”

FeralUrchin said, “Bingo. I keep thinking that someday, maybe someday soon, an unconventional ticket will win the WH. Maybe Huntsman/Hillary or Colin Powell/Huntsman? Some day this country is going to pull it out and hammer both the Republicans and Democrats (I hope!).”

moondancer42 said, “I was planning on sleeping through this election (and never turning on the TV) but now I think I will watch this Huntsman guy. The tea partyers scare me and the Democrats disappoint me, this guy seems to be a good combination...fiscal conservative and scientifically aware...could be something.”

logicrules2 said, “I voted for Obama and couldn't be more disappointed. Would very much consider voting for Huntsman if he showed he could reign in the GOP and the Tea Party idiots! Those two groups have brought us to near collapse.”

southerngeek said, “While Huntsman's intelligence is indeed a whiff of cool oxygen in a stifling room full of hot air, the facts are that third parties are little more than oddities in our current system. Perot was a billionaire who ran on his own wallet and still made little more than a dent in the system. Teddy Roosevelt was the last time a third party candidate mounted a truly serious run at the White House.”

Cheeze68 responded, “Southerngeek while you are correct, if you don't try you can never accomplish! If we as American's stop worrying so much about being on one side or the other, and realize ANY vote is not a wasted vote, then and ONLY then will we start getting better candidates.”

Carl007 said, “It's time to put an end to this 'Door #1' or 'Door #2' shell game the Demon-crats and Republicants play every four years. They're scared of a solid third party because a third party will shine a bright light on what a huge disservice both of ‘the usual suspect parties’ have been doing to the American voter.”

Don’t blame the forecaster

Some people say Hurricane Irene was over-hyped, even by meteorologists. But Dean Obeidallah, award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show," cautioned people about blasting weather guys. Predicting the unpredictable can be tricky business, and disrespecting them could be a mistake.

Although some said the Irene coverage was too much, many CNN.com readers agreed with Obeidallah and said they admired their forecasters.

Groomten3 said, “See, anyone who saw what happened during Katrina cannot possibly believe there is such a thing as exaggeration when it comes to hurricanes. I'd rather have people preparing for the worst than watching helpless people screaming for help on live TV.”

mrichinct said, “The media did a great job on keeping people informed of what was happening. People lost lives all the way up the coast. People lost their homes and businesses. Millions were and are still out of power. How can anyone possibly criticize the news media for reporting on Irene? If not for the forewarning, the situation could have been a lot worse.”

infamous111 said, “Hey guys....anyone remember that storm called Katrina? You know, the category 3 hurricane that forecasters nailed perfectly up to 96 hours in advance, but many people ignored along the Gulf coast. Or how about the tornado outbreak that ripped through Alabama, which was forecasted perfectly and saved thousands of lives?

Additionally, I'm a bit confused at the outrage over Irene's forecast. By and large, the storm did exactly what they said it would do. Forecasters from the National Hurricane Center warned of hurricane force winds up the Atlantic Seaboard, with tropical storm force winds once the storm made landfall in New England. This is exactly what happened. The media whipped up all the stories of impending death and destruction, not forecasters.

Besides, I think we should stop treating 10B in damage and 36 lost lives as no big deal, or nothing serious. Shame on us.”

tosspot said, “I think the problem is not accuracy, as it definitely is impossible to predict storm movement with 100 percent accuracy. The bigger problem is the relentless hyperbole and the sensationalistic way the forecasts are presented. Not every storm that comes along can be the biggest, most threatening cataclysm ever seen by man. I realize it gets ratings, but it really needs to be toned down before people start ignoring it completely.”

RKW29 responded, “And would if it had turned out to be the worse? There was certainly the possibility it could have strengthened rather than weakened. And for many people in Vermont and upstate New York with the flooding, this WAS the worse in memory.

Apple fighting theft in China

Apple products are enormously popular in China; so is counterfeiting them. According to a WikiLeaks cables, Apple was slow to act but eventually organized a team in March 2008 to curtail knockoff iPods and iPhones. Still, counterfeiting is a mounting problem for the tech company.

Most CNN.com readers said they aren’t very sympathetic:

SeriouslyRU said, “Paying excruciatingly low wages to generate obscene profits which do not even filter down to Apples core workforce but benefit the very select few at the top and the oligarchic shareholds. Somehow we should shed a tear? The only people who lose here are the plutocratic elite, who fly private jets and have mansions on the ocean. Boo hooo.”

mdanby said, “1. What these pirates do is immoral and wrong. 2. This theft of IP and damage to Apple's image caused by association of shoddy products with the Apple brand definitely does affect the ‘core’ worker's of Apple as stock option holders. Futhremore this theft also affects Apple shareholders. This is far from a victimless crime.”

JimmyOlson said, “Apple has an opportunity now to tell China if they don't take this piracy much more serious Apple will relocate their manufacturing operations out of China. Who knows maybe Apple will bring the jobs back to the USA. Maybe that might lead to other companies doing the same thing. We can still dream of this happening at the very least.”

Spawned said, “Apple (and other American companies) are going into China for cheap labor and virtually no pollution oversight. The Chinese people are stealing Apple's technology and selling counterfeit Apple products. Who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, they deserve each other don't they! Lotsa Love.”

60minuteman said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword. I have no sympathy for any company manufacturing in China.”

PROFESSIONAL said, “Here's an idea. Why not make less profit by paying the American people to manufacturer the product instead of being greedy and paying the Chinese pennies to make it and and then steal it from you? Apple makes like 40-50 percent margin on this stuff. They can afford to make it in the US so I don't feel sorry for them.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (49 Responses)
  1. :-)

    Well Mmmmmm I really didn't want to correspond with you , you engaged me and I found you unendurable and very adieu !!!

    August 31, 2011 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      ...and its my fault you have a low tolerance for sufferings, anyways, my yellow cab is hog-calling for my big fat humongous azzzzzz...adieu bubbleboy!

      August 31, 2011 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
  2. gung hoe

    This dam phone

    August 31, 2011 at 8:24 am | Report abuse |
  3. Foxfire1

    How do we convince Huntsman to run as an Independent? I too agree that he is the best candidate overall. I hope that he doesn't lose out on the WH just by sticking with the Republicans.

    August 31, 2011 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • SUSIEQ

      I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER
      I INTENSELY DISLIKE ALL POLITICIANS AT THIS POINT (71) AND TRUST NO ONE
      AND REALLY DON'T WISH TO VOTE – HOPEFULLY HUNTSMAN – WHO IS THE BEST
      OF THE LOT (I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN NOR A MORMON)...MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET
      THIS TRAIN BACK ON ITS' TRACK – RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING RIGHT INTO THE RAVINE.
      BUT THE RICH BUSHIES AND FRIENDS (SEE SKULL AND CROSSBONES) ARE DOING
      FABULOSLY AND DON'T CARE...BEWARE AMERICA – THIS ONE REALLY COUNTS!!!

      August 31, 2011 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  4. robmac

    ABO-anybody would be better than this teleprompted-speachifying numnuts who currently occupies the WH–surely the american electorate won't fall for this cheap trick empty suit again

    August 31, 2011 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
    • leeintulsa

      Fill a suit with something besides crazy, and maybe..

      August 31, 2011 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  5. s kel

    WOW Aizen whats the matter? Is the truth upsetting youon what I wrote about Huntsman? Let me rephrase that statment" In the end ,hes just another tea bagger ass licker"!

    August 31, 2011 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  6. banasy©

    Hi, leeintulsa.
    Hi, JIF.

    On a completly different topic, not really fealing too much pity for Apple.
    As a matter of fact, I don't feel *any*.
    Did Apple reall think they were above Chinese knockoffs?

    August 31, 2011 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
    • leeintulsa

      Hi, banasy. I've never supported apple. No ipods, no nothing.

      Back in the day, when i worked on computers, i thought there was such a thing as *too* user friendly.. From fixing things people did because they thought they knew how to use computers.. Then microsoft did the same.. :/

      August 31, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  7. banasy©

    Hi, s kel.
    How do you *really* feel?
    Lmao!

    August 31, 2011 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  8. daliya robson

    Huntsman is sane except when he ties to fit in an appease the crazzies. If he would be more honest and stand up for his reasonable ideas he could get places. This wishy washy trying ito play on 2 teams wont work He is either sane and reasonable or he is a flat ear no evolution person .

    August 31, 2011 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
  9. s kel

    you know banasy im seeing slugs like eric cantor, bachman , perry, payless palin,limbaugh ect.... How they are actually showing how little reguard they are showing the american people ex. not wanting to give help and relief to hurricane victims ,hateing the president based soley on party affiation and race backing large corps. that prefer to outsourse jobs to other countries ,paying less for cheaper labor ,haveing no love for this country only the bottom line. And you still have fool like I responded to that will support that hand slaps them and bites the hand trying to help them. Those fools can go straight to their burning hell.

    August 31, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  10. s kel

    oh @Bansay hello,my wife is with me she says hello also.

    August 31, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  11. :-)

    We will play hell finding a candidate who will be in it for the people of this country . Just another sad daunting fact !

    August 31, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  12. yada

    @ 🙂 I don't like to get into other ppls disagreements but I have to say this. When I read your TJ quote, I thought "wow! What and eloquent way of saying: Laws should be written in a manner that can be easily interpreted and understood by all. One should not try to make the law say something different to appease their own intentions." How on earth his quote could offend someone, I just can't imagine. He was just giving excellent advice. Anyways, enjoyed your post of his quote. Thanks.

    August 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      since you have entered this disagreement, I believe your opinion of this matter is bias and without merit due to the fact that you love blowing bubbles...

      August 31, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  13. yada

    Sorry. Tried to send the "happy face" you use but it turned into the yellow one when I pushed SEND. Lets see what happens if I try one part at a time. : – )

    August 31, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  14. yada

    Better...lol

    August 31, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Darwin

    It's a good thing none of your votes count. The only intelligent person in here is 🙂 guy. The American people (sheeple) will get what they get. You’ll do plenty of complaining in the next 4 to 8 years. Then the cycle will start over. You might see a glimmer of “hope and change” from a candidate or two, but in the end nothing will really change. It doesn’t make much of a difference who sits in the big boy chair. The super rich that run this country will continue to propagate the super rich and do what’s in “their” best interests.

    “When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty”.

    Couldn’t agree more!

    August 31, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
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