Overheard on CNN.com: Skepticism for Obama’s job progam
President Obama will deliver his job plan to a joint session of Congress Thursday.
September 7th, 2011
04:35 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Skepticism for Obama’s job progam

Comments of the day:

“So Plan B is the failed Plan A? Awesome.” - Expresss

“The president could be announcing the cure for cancer and the GOP would vote against it.” - bloodawg

Obama’s 300 billion plan

President Obama is set to unveil a $300 billion jobs program in his Thursday speech to Congress that will focus on new infrastructure spending and targeted tax cuts. The president is also expected to renew his push for stalled trade deals with Panama, Colombia, and South Korea, but GOP critics say the plan represents a continuation of what they consider to be failed policies.

CNN.com readers were obviously divided about President Obama’s program. Many said it’s just more rhetoric, while others said the president still isn’t being given a chance.

akjonny665 said, “This is like a band-aid for a shotgun wound, they don't even look at other solutions. Importing too many goods, exporting our jobs. NAFTA should have been scrapped, [for example].”

mikemc1970 said, “What exactly can he do with $300 billion now, that he couldn't do with $800 billion last go around?”

BinaryTruth responded, “’What exactly can he do?’ If corporate America is incapable, unpatriotic enough, and entirely unwilling to hire American workers – then props to Obama for actually caring enough to do so.”

Ramsglen said, “How dumb is the guy. He knows the American people are not going to let him BLOW another 300 Billion. He has a track record of just letting it disappear. Obama Must Go."

sharky66 said, “Oh don't worry, if Congress does not agree to this, and most likely they will not, Obama will just issue yet another Executive order, go around Congress, and put everything into play.”

CB5 said, “Wow, $300 billion MORE to his Big Labor Union Supporters to bribe them into getting out and start campaigning for him... Republicans are fools if they go along with this at all! It is nothing but more favors being handed out to his buddies at our expense, AGAIN! Vote Obama out in 2012!”

Guest said, “Hey, just so you know the 300 billion he plans on enacting 170 billion in tax cuts like the payroll tax cuts, tax cuts for those who hire the unemployed. If it came out of a Republican’s mouth you would be clapping.”

mcdiarcr said, “Regardless of the party making the statement – over spending has cost us jobs and is now threatening our ability to compete globally with a poorer rating than other countries. Do you honestly believe spending more money has ever helped anyone get our of debt? "

JustTruth1 responded, “'..over spending has cost us jobs and is now threatening our ability to compete globally..' True – those two unfunded Bush wars and his unfunded prescription plan, not to mention the decade+ of forgone income from his tax breaks or the expenses associated with his economic crash, cost this country almost half of what you see sitting there in our big deficit pool.”

JRoth420 said, “Sometimes spending DOES help you get out of debt. If you own a business, and take a loan so that you can invest more money in your business (even though you are already in debt) and it helps turn your business profitable... Well that is debt and spending that helps you get out of debt. That's the whole point here... JUMP STARTING the economy again. Do I think the government should be doing it? No. But the vaunted "private sector" sure doesn't seem to be doing a darn thing to help at this point. So what's the plan? Just wait longer?”

COULROPHILE said, "’I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems.’ Really? Oh Obama, you put too much faith in the Republicans. Besides, infrastructure is intended to serve everybody, not just the wealthy, and we know that the Republicans don't care for the majority of the populace."

Romney lays out his own plan

Two days before President Obama will present his job program to a joint session of Congress, GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney presented his own plan and says Obama "doesn't have a clue" about what to do for the economy. He says his plan will create more than 11 million jobs.
Most CNN.com readers weren’t inspired by Romney’s plan.

KDM said, “Why does anyone need a jobs plan? I thought those big tax cuts for the rich created all the jobs."

einna responded, “KDM, good point. The big tax cuts for the rich created big bonuses for the rich from their record profits.”

sameeker said, “HEY REPUGS! How long will it take you to figure out that trickle down does not work? The rest of the world has a 25% corporate tax rate; however, corporation there pay all of that 25%. Over here, they use loopholes and pay nothing, while getting all sorts of subsidies and corporate welfare.”

Publius13 said, “Romney's ‘plan’ is no different from any of the other GOP ‘plans.’ 1) kill healthcare; 2) reduce taxes (further); 3) reduce regulations; 4) increase domestic energy production; and 5) repeal Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank. He adds a sixth point, which essentially is ‘rename everything after Reagan.’ None of these things will create jobs, because all are intended to stimulate supply. The problem is a lack of demand, not a lack of supply fellas. You can keep pushing that wet noodle of tax reduction until it goes to zero, but it ain't gonna make any new jobs. Meanwhile, the proposals to reduce regulation and repeal S-O and D-F will only free up the Wall Streeters to pay themselves more ill-gotten money drive the economy back into the ditch.”

camty said, “Anyone notice how none of the GOP candidates mentioned anything about jobs or a jobs plan until Obama announced he was going to outline his jobs proposal? Now, they are all against Obama's plan (not yet announced) and have plans of their own."

mistawest responded, “Romney has had his jobs plan scheduled for a while now and unlike OBAMA's, it's an ACTUAL plan!"

tmcsr69 said, “If you would bother to listen to the candidates, you would hear plenty of ideas.”

CrunkSwaggaG said, “The words ‘Romney’ and ‘Jobs’ should not be used in the same sentence. Massachusetts ranked 47th in the nation in job growth during his tenure and his ‘private sector experience’ involved killing American jobs, shipping them overseas, & stuffing his own pockets. His lousy record speaks for itself.”

mooseman316 said, “Why do the Republicans scream for a jobs plan from the President and Congress, but continually state that the government cannot create jobs. Is this the age of DoubleSpeak?”

bzscorpio said, “It's so funny that Republicans are pushing so hard for deregulation. We tried that during the Bush Administration and it, more than anything else, is the biggest reason our economy is in the mess it's in now. When you tell people with money that they can do whatever they want to acquire more of it, it typically doesn't bode well for the people who don't have money (i.e.-the middle class). “

Cheney says no mistakes

When Wolf Blitzer sat down with Former Vice President Dick Cheney he asked him if he had any regrets and Cheney said he had none. According to Blitzer he was “vintage Cheney.”

If CNN.com readers’ comments are any indication, Americans are not remembering the vice president well—putting it mildly.

John said, “Dick Cheney is a pure jack-ass. I worked for 15 years as an exec close to him before he was vice-pres and I'm here to tell you that the day it was determined he would actually assume that office, a good deal of people in the same arena with me all broke out in a sweat. If you had been exposed to what we had witnessed over the years, you'd have felt faint as well.

You had better believe that he played a major role in the deception to start the ball rolling in Iraq and although we have no proof, we also feel certain that he had his hands deep into the derivatives scandal that nearly broke the back of this country's financial stability. Both events bear the telltale mark of this man's well-recognized strategy and principles. I'll end by saying that the timing specific to the end of his term in office was a blessing in more ways than can be imagined by the American people.”

Justice said, “Generations to come will have a hard time believing that such a monster ever existed in flesh.”

Caïro said, “Of course he has no regrets. We have.”

But there were a few Cheney defenders.

Trey said, “I used to think they (W and Cheney) needed to be brought up on war criminal charges. That was until I read a book titled "Courting Disaster" by Mark Thiessen (sp?). I went in with an open mind and am convinced that what they did was right for the country now. Please get informed before you spout such hate-filled speech.”

Denis Egan said, “I found Cheney's long career admirable. I consider him to be clear, consistent and refreshingly frank and unpolitical. If anyone wishes to defame him, he answers them simply without any display of the hateful contempt which flows so easily in today's world.”

But Tim responded, “’I found Cheney's long career admirable. I consider him to be clear, consistent and refreshingly frank and unpolitical.’ Yeah, like that time he outed a CIA agent exposing her undercover operations and contacts in retaliation for her husband not upholding his lies used to get us into the war in Iraq..... he was clear, consistent, refreshingly frank, and most of all completely ‘unpolitical.’"

Jimjim said, “You really haven't been paying attention to his career. Cheney has been the consummate politician dating back to his days working as part of Nixon's criminal administration. The anti-Cheney hate you deride is the natural consequence of examining a life of a man who holds democracy in contempt and the rule of law as antiquated. He is known as vindictive, dishonest and corrupt for a reason – because that is the legacy his acts support.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (82 Responses)
  1. Chutney blumpkin

    Hey! THEY TUK ARR JABS!!!

    September 7, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    @ Chutney blumpkin:
    Of course they took your job.
    Your union got you a contract for more money than your work is worth.

    September 7, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Mmmmm

    Plan B eradicate the GOP presence from capital hill along with bonehead boehner by pulling the voter switch.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  4. RUFFNUTT (ELF SLAYER , LEADER OF GKOP alliance , FRIEND OF FROZEN VENGENCE , PURPLE KUSH SMOKER , 82 CAMARO OWNER , 69 FIREBIRD OWNER , AVID TURKEY HUNTER , NOS USER , MIKE PATTON FAN , AND TRAINER OF VERY SMALL DOGS THAT HAVE SIZE ISSUES)

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    THEY SHOULD INVEST IN TEACHING US HOW TO SPEAK CHINEESE!!!
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    September 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  5. RUFFNUTT (ELF SLAYER , LEADER OF GKOP alliance , FRIEND OF FROZEN VENGENCE , PURPLE KUSH SMOKER , 82 CAMARO OWNER , 69 FIREBIRD OWNER , AVID TURKEY HUNTER , NOS USER , MIKE PATTON FAN , AND TRAINER OF VERY SMALL DOGS THAT HAVE SIZE ISSUES)

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    and "they terk errr jerbs!!!"

    September 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Lrock

    When your employer downsize you and does not offer any incentive to train or skill swap, you know what time it is. It always rolls downhill not from the bottom up.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    I agree with Denis Egan, above.
    I find Dick Cheney himself, his family, and his career admirable.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    If you want to go uphill from the bottom legally, you have to use your hunger for energy and fight your way up.
    Blessed is the hungry wolf at the bottom of the hill.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Chutney blumpkin

    Derka dookah doooooo!

    September 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Scottish Mama

    Our President has not even made a speech yet and it has been defeated. You have to spend money to make money?

    September 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  11. nur amabo nur

    Yahoo ! Creating more jobs ! Good job obomba ! What's that ...not in this country ?!?! Oh your creating jobs in India by helping Ford Motors build a billion $ plant there !?!? Thanks a bunch you moron.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  12. John

    Lets face it. The Democrats are at fault. The Repubicans are at fault. BOTH parties only care about themselves and how to stay in office. You do not see a Democrat or Republican offering to give up part of their salary, one of their many offices, or any of the other perks that we the tax payers fund. As for Obama, he keeps taking vacations (with large groups of people) at the tax payer's expense while unemployment is rising and credit is falling. He is already making campaign speeches talking about the next four years, yet he has improved NOTHING in the U.S. during his first three. We the people, couldn't of elected a worse person.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  13. RUFFNUTT (kcmo resident and smoker of fine purple kush)

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    obama is going down.. and not on michelle..
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    i mean he neeeds to not be a punk and tarrif the crud outta everything chineese...
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    f->china....
    . and mexico... only thing we need from them is weed and fine chongas

    September 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Hello, Scottish Mama.
    I certainly have not tried to defeat the President's speech.
    Jobs building bridges and highways are make-work projects. Taxes will have to pay for them.
    The jobs will "put money into circulation." So would a printing press in the White House basement.
    The jobs will also get the job recipients to vote for Obama. That's a good thing.
    Also, yes–frequently one has to spend money to make money.
    You don't necessarily make money by building a new highway where you already have a highway.
    There are a few bridges with screws loose.

    September 7, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  15. gung hoe

    Really everyone here knows that Im as republican as what Lincoln was But honestly i really do hope his jobs bill does do a whole lot better than the last one

    September 7, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
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