Overheard on CNN.com: Skepticism for Obama’s job progam
President Obama will deliver his job plan to a joint session of Congress Thursday.
September 7th, 2011
04:35 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Skepticism for Obama’s job progam

Comments of the day:

“So Plan B is the failed Plan A? Awesome.” - Expresss

“The president could be announcing the cure for cancer and the GOP would vote against it.” - bloodawg

Obama’s 300 billion plan

President Obama is set to unveil a $300 billion jobs program in his Thursday speech to Congress that will focus on new infrastructure spending and targeted tax cuts. The president is also expected to renew his push for stalled trade deals with Panama, Colombia, and South Korea, but GOP critics say the plan represents a continuation of what they consider to be failed policies.

CNN.com readers were obviously divided about President Obama’s program. Many said it’s just more rhetoric, while others said the president still isn’t being given a chance.

akjonny665 said, “This is like a band-aid for a shotgun wound, they don't even look at other solutions. Importing too many goods, exporting our jobs. NAFTA should have been scrapped, [for example].”

mikemc1970 said, “What exactly can he do with $300 billion now, that he couldn't do with $800 billion last go around?”

BinaryTruth responded, “’What exactly can he do?’ If corporate America is incapable, unpatriotic enough, and entirely unwilling to hire American workers – then props to Obama for actually caring enough to do so.”

Ramsglen said, “How dumb is the guy. He knows the American people are not going to let him BLOW another 300 Billion. He has a track record of just letting it disappear. Obama Must Go."

sharky66 said, “Oh don't worry, if Congress does not agree to this, and most likely they will not, Obama will just issue yet another Executive order, go around Congress, and put everything into play.”

CB5 said, “Wow, $300 billion MORE to his Big Labor Union Supporters to bribe them into getting out and start campaigning for him... Republicans are fools if they go along with this at all! It is nothing but more favors being handed out to his buddies at our expense, AGAIN! Vote Obama out in 2012!”

Guest said, “Hey, just so you know the 300 billion he plans on enacting 170 billion in tax cuts like the payroll tax cuts, tax cuts for those who hire the unemployed. If it came out of a Republican’s mouth you would be clapping.”

mcdiarcr said, “Regardless of the party making the statement – over spending has cost us jobs and is now threatening our ability to compete globally with a poorer rating than other countries. Do you honestly believe spending more money has ever helped anyone get our of debt? "

JustTruth1 responded, “'..over spending has cost us jobs and is now threatening our ability to compete globally..' True – those two unfunded Bush wars and his unfunded prescription plan, not to mention the decade+ of forgone income from his tax breaks or the expenses associated with his economic crash, cost this country almost half of what you see sitting there in our big deficit pool.”

JRoth420 said, “Sometimes spending DOES help you get out of debt. If you own a business, and take a loan so that you can invest more money in your business (even though you are already in debt) and it helps turn your business profitable... Well that is debt and spending that helps you get out of debt. That's the whole point here... JUMP STARTING the economy again. Do I think the government should be doing it? No. But the vaunted "private sector" sure doesn't seem to be doing a darn thing to help at this point. So what's the plan? Just wait longer?”

COULROPHILE said, "’I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems.’ Really? Oh Obama, you put too much faith in the Republicans. Besides, infrastructure is intended to serve everybody, not just the wealthy, and we know that the Republicans don't care for the majority of the populace."

Romney lays out his own plan

Two days before President Obama will present his job program to a joint session of Congress, GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney presented his own plan and says Obama "doesn't have a clue" about what to do for the economy. He says his plan will create more than 11 million jobs.
Most CNN.com readers weren’t inspired by Romney’s plan.

KDM said, “Why does anyone need a jobs plan? I thought those big tax cuts for the rich created all the jobs."

einna responded, “KDM, good point. The big tax cuts for the rich created big bonuses for the rich from their record profits.”

sameeker said, “HEY REPUGS! How long will it take you to figure out that trickle down does not work? The rest of the world has a 25% corporate tax rate; however, corporation there pay all of that 25%. Over here, they use loopholes and pay nothing, while getting all sorts of subsidies and corporate welfare.”

Publius13 said, “Romney's ‘plan’ is no different from any of the other GOP ‘plans.’ 1) kill healthcare; 2) reduce taxes (further); 3) reduce regulations; 4) increase domestic energy production; and 5) repeal Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank. He adds a sixth point, which essentially is ‘rename everything after Reagan.’ None of these things will create jobs, because all are intended to stimulate supply. The problem is a lack of demand, not a lack of supply fellas. You can keep pushing that wet noodle of tax reduction until it goes to zero, but it ain't gonna make any new jobs. Meanwhile, the proposals to reduce regulation and repeal S-O and D-F will only free up the Wall Streeters to pay themselves more ill-gotten money drive the economy back into the ditch.”

camty said, “Anyone notice how none of the GOP candidates mentioned anything about jobs or a jobs plan until Obama announced he was going to outline his jobs proposal? Now, they are all against Obama's plan (not yet announced) and have plans of their own."

mistawest responded, “Romney has had his jobs plan scheduled for a while now and unlike OBAMA's, it's an ACTUAL plan!"

tmcsr69 said, “If you would bother to listen to the candidates, you would hear plenty of ideas.”

CrunkSwaggaG said, “The words ‘Romney’ and ‘Jobs’ should not be used in the same sentence. Massachusetts ranked 47th in the nation in job growth during his tenure and his ‘private sector experience’ involved killing American jobs, shipping them overseas, & stuffing his own pockets. His lousy record speaks for itself.”

mooseman316 said, “Why do the Republicans scream for a jobs plan from the President and Congress, but continually state that the government cannot create jobs. Is this the age of DoubleSpeak?”

bzscorpio said, “It's so funny that Republicans are pushing so hard for deregulation. We tried that during the Bush Administration and it, more than anything else, is the biggest reason our economy is in the mess it's in now. When you tell people with money that they can do whatever they want to acquire more of it, it typically doesn't bode well for the people who don't have money (i.e.-the middle class). “

Cheney says no mistakes

When Wolf Blitzer sat down with Former Vice President Dick Cheney he asked him if he had any regrets and Cheney said he had none. According to Blitzer he was “vintage Cheney.”

If CNN.com readers’ comments are any indication, Americans are not remembering the vice president well—putting it mildly.

John said, “Dick Cheney is a pure jack-ass. I worked for 15 years as an exec close to him before he was vice-pres and I'm here to tell you that the day it was determined he would actually assume that office, a good deal of people in the same arena with me all broke out in a sweat. If you had been exposed to what we had witnessed over the years, you'd have felt faint as well.

You had better believe that he played a major role in the deception to start the ball rolling in Iraq and although we have no proof, we also feel certain that he had his hands deep into the derivatives scandal that nearly broke the back of this country's financial stability. Both events bear the telltale mark of this man's well-recognized strategy and principles. I'll end by saying that the timing specific to the end of his term in office was a blessing in more ways than can be imagined by the American people.”

Justice said, “Generations to come will have a hard time believing that such a monster ever existed in flesh.”

Caïro said, “Of course he has no regrets. We have.”

But there were a few Cheney defenders.

Trey said, “I used to think they (W and Cheney) needed to be brought up on war criminal charges. That was until I read a book titled "Courting Disaster" by Mark Thiessen (sp?). I went in with an open mind and am convinced that what they did was right for the country now. Please get informed before you spout such hate-filled speech.”

Denis Egan said, “I found Cheney's long career admirable. I consider him to be clear, consistent and refreshingly frank and unpolitical. If anyone wishes to defame him, he answers them simply without any display of the hateful contempt which flows so easily in today's world.”

But Tim responded, “’I found Cheney's long career admirable. I consider him to be clear, consistent and refreshingly frank and unpolitical.’ Yeah, like that time he outed a CIA agent exposing her undercover operations and contacts in retaliation for her husband not upholding his lies used to get us into the war in Iraq..... he was clear, consistent, refreshingly frank, and most of all completely ‘unpolitical.’"

Jimjim said, “You really haven't been paying attention to his career. Cheney has been the consummate politician dating back to his days working as part of Nixon's criminal administration. The anti-Cheney hate you deride is the natural consequence of examining a life of a man who holds democracy in contempt and the rule of law as antiquated. He is known as vindictive, dishonest and corrupt for a reason – because that is the legacy his acts support.”

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (82 Responses)
  1. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Scottish Mama:
    Please don't think that I think that everyone has the awareness and tools that I do.
    It doesn't help anyone's position to depict me as naif.
    (Also: don't correct my spelling.)

    September 7, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Scottish Mama

    Told ya, we need a hero who can stand up and be damned as a politician. I think he has so much resistance on both sides that any solution would not suffice either. He was right about lobbyist, campaign money, who gets the shaft(middle class), and he wanted to put his money in the tax barrel, but both sides condemn him. So maybe it isn't the president but both parties we need to throw out.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Scottish Mama

    My spelling is atrocious and have never corrected you. If I understand it, I go by it. Well, I do believe that it is a gift on some and lost on others who need the extra push(kick in the pants).

    September 7, 2011 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Obama is very political.
    He claims it as one of his strengths.
    I'm still planning to vote for him.
    But he's a terrific politician, with all that comes with that.
    ALL of it.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Scottish Mama, I was joking about naif.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scottish Mama

      You have a dry sense of humor, I kinda raised an eybrow on that one.

      September 7, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    We basically agree.
    I insist that this country is more lacking in kicks in the pants than in hands up, and that we need more students with Abe Lincoln's ambition to learn than new computers and classrooms.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Scottish Mama

    I just wish he would use it to do something great and take a risk for the people, because I believe we need that extra push, that there is that one, that is there for us. I would like the truth no matter how revolting to come out of his mouth, and tell how we can get there, what our duty to each other is, and just lay it on the line, leave the senate and the congress with jaws dropped. Make them have to come to agreement to help us out and corporate be damned.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  8. john dahodi

    Obama should not brag too much about his employment plan if he has not demanded fair tax hike for the millionaires, closure of all loop holes for the multi-national companies, tax cuts for middle class and fair share of sacrifice from the senior citizen and medicare recipients along with very broad based employment schemes and economical welfare for all the businesses not only few selected large construction companies, road construction, school buildings and union labor force. At this time, America needs over-all economical progress not limited one. The bast way out will be to distribute family coupons for buying all commodities starting with foods to car at the discounted price; 15% from the companies and additional 15% from the Federal Government. China did it, India did it and found much more revenue and economical boosting than what America has done so far.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Scottish Mama

    @John d-Good post- shared responsibility. I do not know how much more lean the seniors can go. I think an ameican middle class has to have the jobs and jobs that have not been stagnant in wages for 7 -10 years and not raising with the cost of living be relieved. I think they have to start at the top for this and work our way down.

    September 7, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Scottish Mama

    Vouchers I am not sure about?

    September 7, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Scottish Mama

    I just don't ever remember a critique before a speech and content release.

    September 7, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  12. RUFFNUTT (kcmo resident and smoker of fine purple kush)

    they toook our jobs!!!!..
    obama you stink, tjhere is only one thing we carer about now... jobs!!!

    September 7, 2011 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Cesar

    Hard work isn't always rewarded, how true banasy. How true.

    September 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
  14. the prophet

    Politics is a process used by Governments, to formulate tactics to apply policies, to either acquire or stay in power and control. The behavior of each society under this system is more predictable, the election process uses the people to let the Government know of people state of mind, thence allowing the Government to make adjustments so that the Government remains in power. 
    If you are not happy with your Government don't go out and vote for it, without an elected Government!! the Government has no power and we can take America back to the people.

    September 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
  15. justathought

    I bet Irene has created more jobs than Obama can, but then that may his plan in disguise. More roads, more bridges, etc How much damage was estimated, $7 Billion+. His $3 Billion may pay a little toward that. And I can imagine that it could create 30,000 jobs easily.

    September 7, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
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