Live blog: FBI, DEA thwart terror plot in U.S. involving Iran, officials say
Two men are accused of conspiring to murder Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir.
October 11th, 2011
05:57 PM ET

Live blog: FBI, DEA thwart terror plot in U.S. involving Iran, officials say

Editor's note: The FBI and the DEA have disrupted a plot involving Iran to kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States and commit other attacks, according to the U.S. Justice Department. Two men - one arrested, the other at large - have been charged in connection with the plot, which the Justice Department says was directed by elements of the Iranian government.

The Justice Department says one of the men - Manssor Arbabsiar, a naturalized U.S. citizen holding an Iranian passport - arranged to hire for the assassination someone in Mexico who he thought was an associate of a drug trafficking cartel. The person in Mexico actually was a DEA confidential source who was posing as a cartel associate, the Justice Department says.

Follow below for the latest developments and read the Justice Department complaint (PDF).

[Updated at 8:09 p.m. ET]  In their investigation into an alleged plot to kill Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, federal agents interrogated suspect Manssor Arbabsiar for 12 days, a senior counterterrorism official said Tuesday.

Cooperation from Mexican officials played a key role in the investigation, the official said. U.S. authorities arranged with Mexican officials for Arbabsiar to be denied entry into Mexico, the official said.
From there, he was placed on an airplane to New York, where he was taken into custody and quietly taken to a U.S. government facility, the counterterrorism official said. U.S. authorities interviewed him there every day and compiled dozens of intelligence reports.

[Updated at 8:04 p.m. ET] Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss released a statement Tuesday, congratulating the FBI, DEA and other federal agencies involved in the case.

"While I believe our justice system will deal appropriately with the defendant in custody, our government must also deal with the Iranian regime," Chambliss said. "In addition to allegedly sponsoring this plot, Iran has supported and provided weapons for attacks on our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. This has continued far too long with no repercussions."

[Updated at 7:41 p.m. ET] Iran's UN Ambassador Mohammad Khazaee responded to U.S. accusations that the Iranian government was involved in a murder-for-hire plot Tuesday night, telling CNN's Erin Burnett that the whole thing was "a lie."

“The whole issue is a provocation against Iran," Khazaee said. "We strongly reject this accusation," he said, suggesting that the narrative was a "blatant" ploy by Washington to terrorize the American public.

[Updated at 7:41 p.m. ET] Tom Kean, former chairman of the 9/11 Commission said the alleged plot "surprises me." Speaking to CNN's Erin Burnett, Kean said the plot is "pretty close to an act of war. You don’t go in somebody’s capital to blow somebody up.”

[Updated at 7:07 p.m. ET] New York Rep. Peter King, speaking to CNN’s Erin Burnett, said the alleged Iranian plot should be taken seriously by U.S. officials. “This would have been an act of war [if carried out]. It has raised this relationship, between the United States and Iran, to a very precipitous level,” King said.

“This violates all international norms, it violates all international laws. ... We can’t allow this to go without a strong reaction," King, who chairs the Homeland Security Committee," told CNN.

After saying he would back whatever action the administration might take, King said “we should at least consider a sign of military action.  ... something to indicate how seriously we're taking this." He added that U.S. officials should even consider removing Iranian diplomats from the country. “I think everything should be kept on the table.”

[Updated at 6:52 p.m. ET] A spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that the alleged plot was "a child's story" and "a fabrication."

The Iranian government was awaiting details about the accusations, spokesman Ali Akbar Javanfekr said. He suggested U.S. authorities were attempting to distract American citizens.

"They want to take the public's mind off the serious domestic problems they're facing these days and scare them with fabricated problems outside the country," he said.

[Updated at 6:40 p.m. ET] Mexican immigration officials blocked Manssor Arbabsiar, now accused of plotting to kill Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, from entering Mexico last month, Mexico's foreign ministry said in a statement released Tuesday.

Mexican immigration authorities blocked his entry because of an arrest warrant issued by the United States, the foreign ministry said. U.S. authorities later arrested him in New York, it said.

[Updated at 5:57 p.m. ET] U.S. National Security Adviser Tom Donilon in recent weeks went to Saudi Arabia to brief Saudi King Abdullah on the terror plot, a senior administration official familiar with the terror plot said, according to CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger.

The Saudis were “outraged" not only because of the plot, but because the ambassador is "someone who is close to the king,” the official said.

The Obama administration has specific information tying senior officials in Iran's Quds Force - a special unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps - the official said. One question, according to the official, is whether the Quds officials were freelancing or got approval from senior officials in the Iranian regime.

The administration intends to “go to other countries and say this is a serious escalation of Iran’s use of political violence,” the official said. “Some may build on their sanctions; some could cut off relations with the IRGC.”

[Updated at 5:37 p.m. ET] Mexico's foreign ministry, explaining why Arbabsiar was denied entry into Mexico on September 28, says Mexican immigration officials blocked him because of an arrest warrant issued by the United States.

U.S. authorities arrested Arbabsiar a day later in New York, where he had flown after being denied entry into Mexico, the U.S. Justice Department has said. The Justice Department says Arbabsiar had intended to go to Mexico to guarantee final payment for an assassination of the Saudi ambassador to the United States. Arbabsiar had arranged to hire someone for the assassination that he thought was a drug cartel associate, but actually was a DEA confidential source, the Justice Department says.

"In strict compliance with domestic and international law, Mexico was able to neutralize a significant risk to Mexico’s national security, while at the same time reinforcing bilateral and reciprocal cooperation with the United States," the Mexican foreign ministry said in a statement released Tuesday. "This operation confirmed that adequate mechanisms and procedures are in place to anticipate and prevent the presence in Mexico of individuals that pose a risk to national security and interests."

[Updated at 5:03 p.m. ET] U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters that the United States "will be consulting with our friends and partners around the world about how we can send a very strong message that this kind of action, which violates international norms, must be ended."

She also said the United States would consult with nations about possibly taking measures to "further isolate (Iran) from the international community."

[Updated at 4:52 p.m. ET] A preliminary hearing has been set for October 25 for Manssor Arbashiar, who is alleged in a federal complaint to be involved in a terror plot to kill the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, according to CNN's Jason Carroll.

The U.S. Justice Department alleges that Arbashiar, a naturalized U.S. citizen who holds an Iranian passport, arranged to hire someone in Mexico he thought was a drug cartel associate to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States. That person in Mexico actually was a DEA source posing as a cartel associate, the department says.

Arbashiar, 56, was arrested on September 29 at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport, where he flew to after being denied entry into Mexico a day earlier, the Justice Department says. The department says Arbashiar had intended to go to Mexico to guarantee final payment for the assassination.

The Justice Department alleges that the second man who has been charged - Gholam Shakuri, who the department says is an Iran-based member of Iran's Quds Force - and other co-conspirators were aware of and approved of the plan. Shakuri is at large, the department says.

With Shakuri's approval, Arbashiar arranged to wire about $100,000 to a U.S. bank account for the DEA source as a down payment for the assassination, according to the Justice Department. The total price was set at $1.5 million, according to the department.

According to the Justice Department, Arbashiar and the DEA source discussed carrying out the assassination with explosives, possibly by bombing a U.S. restaurant that the Saudi ambassador frequented. When the source told Arbashiar that others - including U.S. senators that visit the restaurant - could be killed, Arbashiar allegedly dismissed those concerns as "no big deal," the department says.

[Updated at 4:42 p.m. ET] The chairman of the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Mike Rogers, released a statement condemning the alleged plot.

"This is dangerous new territory for Iran," Rogers said. "It is the latest in a series of aggressive actions - from their nuclear program to state sponsorship of terrorism, from complicity in killing our soldiers in Iraq to now plotting hostile acts on U.S. soil. This episode underscores the need for concerted international unity to confront Iran.”

[Updated at 4:30 p.m. ET] The Saudi embassy in the U.S. has released the following statement relating to the alleged plot:

"The Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia would like to express its appreciation to the responsible agencies of the United States government for preventing a criminal act from taking place. The attempted plot is a despicable violation of international norms, standards and conventions and is not in accord with the principles of humanity."

[Updated at 3:52 p.m. ET] Ali Akbar Javanfekr, a spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, told CNN he had never heard of those accused in connection with the alleged plot.

“I think the U.S. government is busy fabricating a new scenario and history has shown both the U.S. government and the CIA have a lot of experience in fabricating these scenarios and this is just the latest one,” he said. “I think their goal is to reach the American public. They want to take the public’s mind off the serious domestic problems they’re facing these days and scare them with fabricated problems outside the country.”

Javanfekr says if the Iranian government verifies that these individuals are Iranian citizens, the Iranian government will make every effort to help them.

[Updated at 3:44 p.m. ET] A senior defense official said there has been no change to U.S. military posture in reaction to the terror plot allegedly backed by Iran. The official says American Navy ships in the region have not been re-positioned, and at this point there are no plans to do so.

“The act is already done. One of the people involved is still at large, but the other principal is in custody. So what does changing military posture do?" the official said.

The official says while the Pentagon continues to concentrate on keeping an eye on the Quds Force and Iran’s actions in the region, especially Iraq, Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf, this incident is “much more of a law-enforcement matter.”

The official was not surprised at the level of cooperation apparently given by the Mexican government to foil the terror plot.

“We’ve got a very good working relationship with the Mexican military in a number of ways, especially counter-narcotics. The U.S. Navy and Marine Corps are very involved with their Mexican counterparts, and work together in several ways, including training.”

[Updated at 3:42 p.m. ET] Senior U.S. officials tell CNN that the U.S. will impose further sanctions against Iran in the wake of the alleged foiled terror plot.

[Updated at 3:36 p.m. ET] Former U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Robert Jordan told CNN that he believes the current ambassador would be a target for Iran because he is a man who can "be counted on to be a collaborative and positive force between the United States and Saudi Arabia."

"It is also an attack on the United States to attack this ambassador," Jordan said, because of the ambassador's relationship with the United States.

Jordan, who said he is a close friend of Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir, said he has impeccable credentials and is a consummate diplomat."

"Its very important to understand that the Saudis and the Iranians believe that they are in a mortal battle for supremacy in the Middle East," he told CNN. "The Saudis view Iran as a threat to their hegemony in the Arab world and Iran has been insinuating itself into many of the struggles in the Middle East that is in the contrary to the Saudi national interest."

It is because of the ambassador's position as well as the struggle in the region that Jordan believes he may have been a target.

"I think he is a target [that] there is credibility to this story," he said. "The Saudis have viewed Iran as a threat."

[Updated at 3:15 p.m. ET] Here's how the alleged plot began according to the Justice Department:

In the spring of 2011 through October 2011, Manssor Arbabsiar and his Iran-based co-conspirators, including Gholam Shakuri of the Quds Force, began plotting the murder of the Saudi Ambassador to the United States.

At one point Arbabsiar "allegedly met on a number of occasions in Mexico with a DEA confidential source who has posed as an associate of a violent international drug trafficking cartel," according to the Justice Department.

In May 2011, Arbabsiar met with the confidential source in Mexico and asked about explosives. There he allegedly expressed a specific interest in attacking an embassy in Saudi Arabia. The informant allegedly said he had knowledge about C-4 explosives. It was in  a meeting in June that Arbabsiar allegedly explained to the information that he and his associated in Iran had "discussed discussed a number of violent missions" that included "the murder of the Ambassador."

[Updated at 3:06 p.m. ET] A senior Obama official said the administration won't tolerate the targeting of a diplomat on U.S. shores, CNN Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin reported.

The official said the administration believes the alleged plot is a dangerous escalation by Iran and a flagrant violation of international law. The official said the U.S. will work with other international partners to isolate the government, specifically the Islamic Revolutionary Guard and the Quds force.

The official said overall, the impact of the plot, means that the U.S. will continue to isolate Iran.

The official added that the administration has been talking and coordinating with Saudis and remains in close touch with the Saudi government. They have also been in touch with the ambassador at the center of the plot.

[Updated at 2:55 p.m. ET] CNN's Peter Bergen said that based on his knowledge of the region the Saudi ambassador to the United States may have been targeted because he is a key foreign policy adviser to Saudi King Abdullah.

[Updated at 2:41 p.m. ET] National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor released the following statement regarding the plot:

“The President was first briefed on this issue in June and directed his Administration to provide all necessary support to this investigation. The disruption of this plot is a significant achievement by our intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the President is enormously grateful for their exceptional work in this instance and countless others.”

[Updated at 2:35 p.m. ET] Attorney General Eric Holder, when asked how Iran would be held "accountable" in an alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States, said he expected action from the White House, the State Department and Treasury within the next few hours.

A U.S. official expanded more about how the U.S. might hold Iran accountable.  The official told CNN's Elise Labott that there are likely to be more sanctions and the U.S. will be taking this up with to the United Nations Security Council and other members of the international community.

[Updated at 2:32 p.m. ET] One of the suspects, Manssor Arbabsiar, allegedly discussed bombing a restaurant in the United States that the Ambassador frequented, according to the complaint.

The U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York said Tuesday there had been a "discussion of using explosive devices" to carry out the alleged Iranian-linked terror plot against the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

[Updated at 2:27 p.m. ET] "The criminal complaint unsealed today exposes a deadly plot directed by factions of the Iranian government to assassinate a foreign Ambassador on U.S. soil with explosives,” Attorney General Eric Holder said. “Through the diligent and coordinated efforts of our law enforcement and intelligence agencies, we were able to disrupt this plot before anyone was harmed.  We will continue to investigate this matter vigorously and bring those who have violated any laws to justice.”

[Updated at 2:25 p.m. ET] The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York called the alleged Iranian-linked terror plot against the Saudi ambassador to the United States "well-funded and pernicious."

"Details of that murder plot are chilling," Preet Bharara said in a news conference Tuesday.

[Updated at 2:22 p.m. ET] The criminal complaint filed Tuesday in the Southern District of New York names Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen holding both Iranian and U.S. passports, and Gholam Shakuri, an Iran-based member of Iran’s Quds Force, which is a special operations unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) that is said to sponsor and promote terrorist activities abroad, according to the Justice Department.

Arbabsiar was arrested on September 29, 2011, at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York. He will make his initial appearance on Tuesday before in federal court in Manhattan, the Justice Department said. He allegedly confessed to his participation in the murder plot, according to the Justice Department.

Shakuri remains at large.

The men are charged with the following crimes according to the Justice Department: "conspiracy to murder a foreign official; conspiracy to engage in foreign travel and use of interstate and foreign commerce facilities in the commission of murder-for-hire; conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction (explosives); and conspiracy to commit an act of international terrorism transcending national boundaries. Arbabsiar is further charged with an additional count of foreign travel and use of interstate and foreign commerce facilities in the commission of murder-for-hire."

[Updated at 2:19 p.m. ET] FBI Director Robert Mueller said the alleged terror plot involving Iran "reads like the pages of a Hollywood script."

"This case illustrates that we live in a world where borders and boundaries are increasingly irrelevant," Mueller said.

[Updated at 2:14 p.m. ET] An alleged plot - involving Iran - to commit terrorism inside the United States "is a fabrication," Ali Akbar Javanfekr, spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Tuesday.

Javanfekr said the Iranian government is awaiting details, but suggested U.S. authorities are attempting to distract American citizens from "domestic problems" by convincing them there is an outside threat.

[Updated at 2:12 p.m. ET] An FBI agent's affidavit obtained by CNN Tuesday accused two men of conspiring to murder Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir.

The complaint alleges that Manssor Arbabsiar and Gholam Shakuri began a plot this past spring to kill Al-Jubeir.

Attorney General Eric Holder said in a news conference that the terror plot was a $1.5 million dollar "murder-for-hire" plan.

Officials also said one of the suspects told an informant that killing civilians, including senators, during the attack was "no problem" and "no big deal."

[Posted at 2:00 p.m. ET] The FBI and the DEA have disrupted a plot involving Iran to commit terrorism inside the United States, a senior U.S. official told CNN.

The official said the alleged plan was directed by elements of the Iranian government and involved a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

This story is developing. We'll bring you the latest information as soon as we get it.

soundoff (1,853 Responses)
  1. Rick Perry

    Look I don't know how you losers have all time time on your hands posting this crap. Just vote tea party and don't be stupid. Let the Republicans take care of all your concerns. Don't be a stupid loser.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mossad

      How much are they paying to post your drivel R.P.?

      October 11, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  2. kemoman

    you conspirators make me laugh. You sit behind your computers and question ever thing people tell you accept the things you make up in your head. is it so hard to belive that iran could have a plan to kill a saudi in america...not to me? but to all these pepps on here you think so hard about the issue that you over analyze in at come up with something that makes our nation look hrrible. true you may think for yourself...but sometimes thats not always a good thing.. and i say that cuz there are a ton of idiots on here thinking fo themselves and doing nothing but thinking that america is up to something again...plz

    October 11, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mossad

      You dound like a Israel megaphoney

      October 11, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  3. TacticalTLAMShooter

    All of the war mongers/anti-iranians please note: the president of iran is as powerless as an infant child. The supreme leader runs iran. And nothing changes as long as he is in power and as long as the anti-american/pro-muslim government is in place. Congress wont even consider ousting the iranian gov't. It was tried before and it was a failure. Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan has been been a quagmire at best and we dont need another questionable regime change in the middle east in which we must question whose side they are on.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  4. EgoSum Lamia

    the Iranian government will make every effort to help them. NUKE 'EM

    October 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  5. epona30

    Why does this story reek of BS to me?

    October 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  6. R

    One bad guy killing other....let them fight and die. I am sure winner will be common innocent Arabs.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
  7. TR

    Seriously people? I have to wonder what side the folks blogging on here are on...

    For those who keep spouting off "conspiracy" theories, just do us all a favor and shut your pie-holes; you're not only making yourselves looks like jacka$$e$, but liberals and Americans in general. To be honest, I can't tell if your even Americans!

    The comments on this page should be in congratulations to our country's intellegence agencies for foiling this plot! That said, Great work Intellengence Officers for foiling yet another terrorist plot on this country and making it possible for everyone on this blog to continue to have a voice!

    October 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mossad

      T.R. are you really that dense? or just another paid poster?

      October 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kendra

      Yes, absolutely. The most American thing you can do is shut off your brain, never ask questions and GO SHOPPING! Wheeeeeee!!!!

      October 11, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • JasonP

      I agree, it seems a lot of these comments are coming from foreign nationals.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Resident

    Sure, let's not believe anything the government finds. What's going to happen when the kid cries wolf and it's for real? So what now, you want the government to ignore attack plots, potential terrorist attacks?

    October 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Kat

    Two Iranians apparently tried to commit a terriost act......the Okalhoma Bomber was one American who did commit a terriorist act...these are people with grave issues...forget the nationalities...they are no different all want to harm for what seems like no valid rational reason. That said, this should not prevent a Palestinian State. It is convenient this would occur as the Palestinians request statehood after 63 years of bondage and again they did not commit the holocaust and should have to pay the price for its aftermath. Also, if the Iranian Government was behind this well what a bunch of idiots. However, the Saudi Government is no friend to America or anyone other than themselves. They also have committed many atrocities against Bahranian citizens most of who are Shias. At the end of the day, no violence against another race or human being is ever justified but until all foreign policy is not skewed to protect the Jewish State above all else unfortunately this may go on unjustly. By the way, Israel is also no friend to the US.....if so why send "spies" here....friends don't need to spy....US wants to reduce the deficit more cut off the $1 billion plus aid we send every year to Israel...if there so democratic why do they need US taxpayer dollars.....

    October 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Semper Fidelis

      Your long rambling post says nothing except that like most uneducated Americans you've got a real 'thing ' about Israel.
      I'd love to discuss it with you but since you obviously have no clue about the history of the Middle East, it would be a waste of my time.

      Couple of things for you to look up:-

      In 1948 – 76 UN countries voted for a dual state Israel/Palestine. Israel accepted. Palestine refused demanding the annihilation of the Jews.

      Read EXODUS by Leon Uris. Then come back and pontificate about Israel.

      October 11, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Dale

    No one that escaped will be wearing a burqa he'll get away.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  11. catdog

    The Israeli's just committed the same crime in Dubai; the US supported their actions.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  12. shakin in cali

    There are basically two kinds of people...those who accept as indisputable truth everything that their government tells them, and those who do not. I fall into the latter category, and based on the timing, political implications and the historically bad track record the government has with respect to disseminating the truth, I have to side with the false flag crowd on this one. I've come to understand that for more than any other purpose, wars are engineered by politicians in collusion with corporatist elements for profiteering and the advancement of big government..

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kendra

      Well said. Thank you!

      October 11, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • JasonP

      "False flag crowd". You mean "knee-jerk, respond without knowing what you're talking about" crowd.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Semper Fidelis

      Respect to you for an intelligent post.

      October 11, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  13. kemoman

    oh no something happend when something else happend...must be a conspiracy by the us goverment of course

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Clinton

    It's amazing how many of you idiots jump to the conclusion that this is a United States Government conspiracy to go to war with Iran... you know Iran is a pretty @#$!ed up country right? They don't have separation of church and state, their people have chanted Death to America for the past 30 years after prayer... that means death to you and me people... they want you to die... literally... not figuratively... for 30 years... yet so many of you idiots jump to the conclusion that we're making War excuses.... nobody has even talked about taking this to an Armed conflict but you idiots that think we are... Iran has used terrorism and supported violence in foreign countries to serve itself for a long time.. I'm a Veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, these are the same guys that built and sold sophisticated IED's to terrorists in Iraq to puncture through our armored vehicles to kill us troops... you don't see anything wrong with that you guys? really you don't care that they tried to kill us? Seriously put the bong down and look at the story for what it is... we uncovered a plot... We're saying we'll probably sanction Iran for it... that's it... stop trying to make it into a conspiracy you morons and accept that our intelligence agencies stopped an attack on US soil... that's important.. and it's a blow to a Iranian Government who's own people want it to become more moderate and work peacefully with the rest of the world.

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Moe

      This is all propaganda for more war if Iran wanted to kill a Saudi trust me they can this a country with the world second largest gas reserves and 3rd larges oil reserves It's build up for attacking Iran if the USA doesn't do it the Israeli's mite do it but the USA will have to get involved Iran is not Iraq Iran has a navy designed to attack the American Navy in the gulf made of small fast boats with big super sonic radar evading missiles they have hundreds of different anti ship missiles.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      How are you sure that Iran is a F+++ed up country? have you ever been there? all you know about Iran is what the US media has been feeding you.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • ed

      I don't think it's an excuse to go to war with Iran. I think it Obama and Holder trying to get the spotlight off of them.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • comeon

      Moe – if you want people to take you seriously, use punctuation and proper grammar. Otherwise, you just like an idiot.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clarkson

      Have you tried to reason why they hate you so much?
      why they hate the USA?
      maybe stop with the hypocrisy of selling weapons to pseudo allies like IRAQ so they could attack IRAN?

      October 11, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Skeptical Realist

      Whoa, a rational person who actually makes sense! Shocker.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • stvnkrs10

      Moe, the Iranian Navy? What a joke. Out Navy and Air Force would mow them down in less than a day. Iran is a joke to the American military. I will say it again. Iran's military is a joke. Iran has 0 – zero – 0 chance of ever winning on any field of battle with America unless it is a camel race.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • JasonP

      Well said Clinton. I am shocked by the responses I have seen in this forum. What the hell has the Obama administration ever done to earn this mistrust? They took out the world's top terrorists, kept us safe. Bush is the one who lied us into a war. Again Obama is reaping what Bush and the Republicans have sown.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clarkson

      They are better armed than IRAQ, that's for sure..
      and I don't think they would surrender to the USA, unlike the Iraq's national guard by orders of Hussein.
      Also, the who knows how many US troops dead.. Don't put many points in your MOW DOWN thing.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • stvnkrs10

      Clarkson, I have served in combat for the US military, I know what they are capable of, can you say the same? I will say again, Iran stands no chance, 0. I will put points, stock, and bet the farm on it. I guarantee 1000 dead Iranian military for every 1 US military. Our Navy and Air Force will disable their fleet before they even knew we were coming. The only deaths would be in an occupation just like Iraq. Israel would mow down Iran, they stand 0 chance against the US. Count on it.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dover

      If you vote conservative in the US, we will not have separation of church and state either......just sayin.

      October 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • human as you

      I am concerned that "exceptions" are being made to kill American citizens and now we have this issue with Iran that quite frankly has all the markings of an "invented" threat. An "escalation" is what is being called by our people. Makes no sense.

      October 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Think

    I guess the next war is with Iran... I was beginning to wonder what was taking the federal government so long to start the next coupled of wars

    October 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      Thumbs up!!

      October 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Semper Fidelis

      This is very handy for two reasons:

      THE best way to save a failled economy is to find yourself a convenient war.

      The best way for Holder to deflect from his upcoming trial is tomanoeuvre himself into "Hero of America" mode.

      Very convenient................................................hmmm

      October 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ed

      Elections. Obama is waiting until just before the elections so he can declare a national emergency and suspend elections.

      October 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • stvnkrs10

      ed, you are truly an idiot to believe that. Shouldn't you be listening to Rush Limbaugh?

      October 11, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
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