Overheard on CNN.com: Cain talks the talk they like to hear
The more inflammatory Herman Cain's statements are, the more his numbers climb, LZ Granderson says.
October 14th, 2011
04:47 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Cain talks the talk they like to hear

Comments of the Day:

"For many conservatives like myself, one's ethnicity is not an issue. It's what the candidate believes that counts."–Adam B. Embry

"So long, Herman! From viable candidate to race-baiter to footnote in a few short weeks."–MrsNeutron

Is Herman Cain a straight-talking businessman whom Republicans can love or a race baiter? CNN political reporter Shannon Travis writes that he "is the first African-American to have a real shot at becoming the Republican presidential nominee. So why isn't his ethnicity as much a part of his story as it was with Obama?"

CNN.com readers argued over whether race was really a non-issue with Republicans, or - as columnist LZ Granderson suggests - Cain is simply able to say what some are thinking.

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Gotta Be Kiddin said, "Actually, Colin Powell was the first African American who had a real shot at the Republican nomination. I'm not quite sure what Herman Cain is."

JLH said, "Travis's entire article is offensive, as it operates on the premise that conservatives are racist. I tried to find some means of statistics to support this supposition contained within the article, but none found."

Jonathan said, "I love Herman Cain. He's intelligent, driven, and a successful picture of American accomplishment. I'm also glad he has garnered so much Tea Party support, helping to disprove liberal allegations of Tea Party racism."

johnbeer said, "Obama's race was never an issue with Republicans. Remember, Republicans voted in higher percentages for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 than did the Democrats. Lincoln freed the slaves. What Republicans object to is that Obama is trying to destroy America with his socialistic policies."

GaryB said, "I don't care what race Cain may be. What I don't like is that his 9-9-9 plan would by most estimations would put even more of our country's money into the hands of a wealthy few while raising net taxes on a whole lot of working Americans and make the deficit worse. Hard to see how this helps our country, unless, of course, you're already part of the upper class."

Lost in Texas FOREVER said, "I live in the REDDEST state in the union, plenty of far-right conservatives down here. If you talk the talk they like to hear they couldn't care less what color you are."

Andy Botwin said, "Cain's philosophy that poverty is a result of laziness fits right in with decades of Republican ideology. Of course they embrace him. He's part of the 'all fates are deserved' mantra."

40acres said, "He is the only candidate I hear lumping all blacks (at least the blue ones) into a single category and labeling them as brainwashed and racist. I believe he did the same thing with Muslims. It almost seems he's being a little racist or very exclusionary, or both. Maybe that's what the Republicans like about him.

jhunt007 said, "Mr. Cain is a politician and LZ's suggestion that he is picking on poor black folks is wrong. He is calling out the corrupt culture of victimization that is passed from one generation to the next."

YummyYemmy said, "I am a black man who refuses to play that victim game. I have experienced racism in both my professional and personal life. Instead of complaining I just move on. I refuse to accept that any single individual or group can prevent me from reaching my destination in life. Anyone that says that 'as a black person there is nothing in our society preventing you from achieving success' is at the least delusional."

rdarkchild said, "I'm a black male without party affiliation. Many black people know men like Herman Cain who believe that all the stereotypes about people of color that dominate the conservative mindset are not whispered about them when they are not present. Herman, you are an accomplished man. How can you be so easily fooled?"

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (119 Responses)
  1. casual observer

    And even though he kicked everyones ass in the polls, Ron Paul isn't even mentioned. The one guy who really would see to it that the Fed finally get's audited by US rather than just by them, the B.I.S., never even get's mentioned by your majjor media. Except in passing, of course. I think that Americans are afraid to audit the Fed located in the USA. Scared to death of what they "might" find out.

    October 15, 2011 at 7:47 am | Report abuse |
  2. The Queen and her bizzy bees

    @Casual observer. Oh, yeah. We forgot. Philip IS a racist. One couldn't be all the other without racism being in there somewhere.

    October 15, 2011 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
  3. practical magic

    @casual observer, philip isn't, or he has covered it up pretty well. oh wait, this is his isn't it? oh snap. fell for it again.

    October 15, 2011 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  4. the king of lies

    hay. there i go again. can't resist. like pulling a scab off my wounds again and again. talking to myself now, and answering myself. nobody is fooled but the fool. coming down off my high to start my cycle of lies on a new morn. calling myself racist to deflect responsibility for my crimes. as if that would. as if.

    October 15, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
  5. Epiphany

    Not real sure how I feel about Herman Cain.

    Not real good, though.

    October 15, 2011 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  6. Jean Sartre, Milwaukee, WI

    Cain is Able to appeal to dumbed down Americans, as some of the other Republic Party candidates do, by attacking President Obama and by claiming huge business experience...

    I sort of like to point out, although I really should not have to, that the GOVERNMENT is not a corporation, and business experience, to me at least, has absolutely NOTHING to do with sound GOVERNANCE.

    Government is not and should not be run like a business; unless you count the politicians currently OWNED by corporations, you can clearly see where that type of non critical thinking is taking this country!

    Business is all about PROFIT; Government is all about PEOPLE...

    October 15, 2011 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  7. Epiphany

    Well said, Jean Sarte.

    October 15, 2011 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
  8. RUFFNUTT ( ELF & BUGBEAR KILLER )

    hermain cain...= better speaker than a used car sales man

    October 15, 2011 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  9. chillipepper

    The left will and are coming after him in cruel and unusual ways. Always the first line of attack on a Black conservative is to let Black Liberals go after him as a Sell out Tom etc. Then that clears the way for White racist liberals to jump in with both feet and give it a go. It's all good then once other blacks put him down then the white liberals feel justified to let their racism flow, oh of course for the greater good in their minds.

    October 15, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Avser Bastian

    WHITES AREN’T WELCOME IN AMERICA ANY LONGER !!! WE DON’T NEED YOU ANYMORE !!! OUT OF AMERICA WITH WHITES NOW !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGfYOAydjw
    OR
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec

    OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE RECORDED LIVE IN 2009. Facts about lunatic Obama/Bush's twilight zone administrations(HORROR) or genocide against white population.

    Make sure to play video from beginning. Just in case http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xleq3o

    THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY WHITE AMERICAN REFUGEE !!!

    IS IT INDEPENDENCE THAT WE CELEBRATE OR DEPENDENCE (what are your credit card bills or alimony saying about it) !!? HOW IS YOUR DIABETES AND LOST MARRIAGES !!? FORECLOSURES AND JOB SEARCH !!? THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE OR NOT TO BE !!! IS IT LAND OF THE FREE OR STATE OF TERROR AGAINST OWN WHITE POPULATION !!? IT IS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES ON OUR STAR SPANGLED BANNER !!! TIME TO DETERMINE WHOSE INDEPENDENCE/AMERICA, WE CELEBRATE TODAY(who wants to erase us and denies us the right to exist) !!! IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHOM WE ADDRESS WITH "PRESIDENT" (STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF) !!!

    911 WAS CREATED FOR PEOPLE TO WAKE UP(deliberately by CIA)....HOWEVER, WAKE UP EITHER WHAT IS TRUTH(sanity) OR WAKE UP TO LIES(insanity = with what your self elected governments have brainwashed you when forcefully jobless/persecuted....therefor­­e, I want you to think about "WAKE UP" when watching next time ALEX JONES alike "alternative" news/media = CIA)

    WHEN YOU WAKE UP, I WANT YOU TO WAKE TO YOURSELF AND NOT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S DREAM (ZIONIST/COMMUNIST/LIBERAL DREAM CATCHERS/THIEFS, WHO PLOTTED 911 TO WAKE YOU AFTERWARDS WITH ECONOMIC OPPRESSION IN A WORLD OF LIES !!!)

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS !!? WHATEVER YOU WERE BORN IS WHAT YOU ARE(truth therefore) AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU HAVE CHANGED(distorted yourself) SINCE 9/11 IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT !!!

    FOR PIECE OF MIND(sanity), PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES AND REMEMBER, GENOCIDE(health care) BASED ON FORGIVE AND FORGET IS NOT FOR ME !!! DIGNITY, PRIDE, AND HONOR ARE WORTH TO DIE AND KILL FOR !!!

    October 15, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Avser Bastian

    WALL STREET PROTESTS...NOT ANTI WALL-STREET AT ALL, BUT INSTEAD RACIALLY MOTIVATED AGAINST WHITES

    THEY WERE MURDERING YOU WITH AND INSIDE OF THEIR CORPORATIONS FOR OVER 66 YEARS !!! THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN ALMOST EVERY SMALL COMPANY IN UNITES STATES OF AMERICA AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND PROTEST FOR THEM AGAINST WALL STREET(corporations = Wall-street) !!!

    FOR ENTIRE 66 YEARS, ON DAY TO DAY BASES, ALL THEY WERE DOING IS CRIME CONTEMPLATING AGAINST US INSIDE OF THEIR BACK OFFICE CUBICLES(on job torture/bullying/mobbing and forceful unemployment to progress humanity as Obama exclaimed over and over) PER EEOC AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO RAISE COMMUNIST FLAG UNDER AMERICAN SKY !!! ONE RACE; RAT RACE(Wall street protesters are Obama's army which spread from London per Zionist Washington DC and communist Moscow) !!!

    WHEN YOU PROTEST(it is much more than just than necessarily), RAISE SIGNS HIGH SO WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE DISPLAYED I CITE, "66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE !!!"

    THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY WHITE AMERICAN REFUGEE !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGfYOAydjw OR http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xleq3o

    October 15, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cenzo Nico

      Get real.

      October 16, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  12. the prophet

    In the eyes of humanity and the world America is only a destinations of propaganda.

    October 15, 2011 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Cenzo Nico

    Why aren't you showing the protests is all the cities around the USA? Why do you show previews of the Tuesday debate in Nevada? What a waste of time. Why don't you ever show real news. For the last three days you've been repeating some bullying show which doesn't need to be repeated 30 times, 24-7. Get real CNN.

    October 16, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jambalaya

    We are in the Jimmy Carter phase of the next Ronald Reagan revolution.

    October 19, 2011 at 6:25 am | Report abuse |
  15. wuhesp

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    October 20, 2011 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
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