October 19th, 2011
04:17 AM ET

Truth Squad: Fact checking the GOP debate

CNN's Truth Squad fact-checked some of the claims made at Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas.

We'll take a look at some of the questions posed to the candidates, then share with you how they answered the question. The topics include whether Herman Cain's "9-9-9" tax plan include a value-added tax, did Mitt Romney hire illegal immigrants a year after a newspaper report, Michele Bachmann's claims that the Obama administration try to repeal part of its own health care plan and whether Rick Perry's energy plan can create over a million jobs.

Was Romney's Massachusetts health plan a "budget-busting" model for a national plan? 

In one of the most contentious exchanges among the candidates at Tuesday night's GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, former Senator Rick Santorum lashed out at former Governor Mitt Romney's Massachusetts health care reform program as a budget-busting model for the Obama administration's health care plan. Romney insisted he never suggested it should be a model for the rest of the country, and maintained it remains popular in his home state.

The statements: "I was asked, 'Is this something that you would have the whole nation do?' And I said no this is something that was crafted for Massachusetts. It would be wrong to adopt this as a nation. " - Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney

"You've blown a hole in the budget up there, and you've authored in Obamacare which is going to blow a hole in the budget of this country. " - Former Senator Rick Santorum, R-Pennsylvania

"The people of Massachusetts like it by about a 3 to one margin. " - Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney

Truth Squad verdict: A mixed bag

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Does 9-9-9 add up to a value-added tax?

Now that he's running in the top tier of national polls, Herman Cain's "9-9-9" tax plan came under immediate criticism from his rivals at a GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas on Tuesday night. Rep. Michele Bachmann, a onetime Internal Revenue Service lawyer, charged the plan's 9% federal sales tax would amount to a value-added tax similar to those assessed in European countries.

The statement: "Because at every level of production you have a profit, and that profit gets taxed," Bachmann said. "Because you produce one portion at one level, and then you take it to the next supplier or vendor at the next level, and you have an exchange. That is a taxable event. And ultimately, that becomes a value-added tax. It's a hidden tax."

Truth Squad verdict: Incomplete

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Perry's Texas two-step on TARP

There may be no more foul four-letter word in the Republican presidential race than TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program passed in 2008 to bail out the tottering U.S. financial system. And former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who runs far at the back of the GOP pack in most polls, dropped it on the front-runners in Tuesday night's CNN debate in Las Vegas.

The statement: "The problem is, in the first place, is that several people up here - the, quote, businesspeople - supported the TARP, supported the bailout," Santorum said. He included former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry among its supporters, prompting Perry to interject, "Wrong."

Truth Squad verdict: True, but incomplete

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Was Romney employing illegal immigrants a year after report?

In one of several heated exchanges during Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nevada, Texas Gov. Rick Perry revisited a claim that was made against former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney during the 2008 presidential race: that Romney had hired illegal immigrants to work at his home.

The allegation starts with a 2006 Boston Globe report that illegal immigrants were part of a crew that would landscape the then-Massachusetts governor's lawn. On Tuesday, Perry alleged that a year later, those illegal immigrants still were working on Romney's property. Perry said this made Romney unfit to claim that he is strong opponent of illegal immigration.

The statement: "People who hire illegals ought to be penalized. And Mitt, you lose all of your standing from my perspective, because you hired illegals in your home, and you knew about it for a year. ... The newspaper came to you and brought it to your attention, and you still, a year later, had those individuals working for you." - Texas Gov. Rick Perry

Truth Squad verdict: Misleading

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Did the Obama administration try to repeal part of own health care plan?

At Tuesday night's GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann suggested that opposition to President Obama's health reform law prompted the administration to repeal part of it.

The statement: "Obama-care is so flat-out unpopular that even the Obama administration chose to reject part of Obamacare last Friday when they tried to throw out the CLASS Act, which is the long-term care function. The Secretary Sebelius, who is the head of Health and Human services, reported that the government can't even afford that part and has to throw it out. And now the administration is arguing with itself. When even the Obama administration wants to repeal this bill, I think we're going to win this thing. We're going to repeal it. And I will. "Obamacare is so unpopular even the Obama administration wants to repeal part of it..." - Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minnesota)

Truth Squad verdict: Misleading

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Can Perry's energy plan create 1.2 million jobs?

Gov. Rick Perry touted part of his plan to boost the economy at Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nevada, saying his energy strategy would create 1.2 million jobs. Last week, Perry said his plan would focus on tapping unexplored domestic sources for oil and gas. To do this, he said, regulations on oil and gas producers would need to be changed. Fewer rules would free up drilling in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico, and expand clean-coal technology resources, he said.

The statement: "1.2 million jobs could be put to work." - Texas Gov. Rick Perry, referring to his energy plan.

Truth Squad verdict: True, but incomplete

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soundoff (456 Responses)
  1. G D

    Where was A.C.'s backbone in all of that fluff? The biggest lies aren't even mentioned. Like Obamacare is going to bankrupt the Country while the CBO shows it to save $$. It's a junk plan, but not because it costs more or give the gov control over our choices, it only cause premiums to rise for most of us. Or how about "regulation is killing business", please, it was a total absence of regulation that put us in this mess to begin with. Wolf & Anderson both were little girls in dresses during their respective debates. What do we need them for if they just let the talking heads talk??

    October 19, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      gd: "The biggest lies aren't even mentioned. Like Obamacare is going to bankrupt the Country while the CBO shows it to save $$. It's a junk plan, but not because it costs more or give the gov control over our choices, it only cause premiums to rise for most of us."

      What are you even referring to? Bankrupting the government, or bankrupting people who have to pay for insurance whether they like it or not?

      "Or how about "regulation is killing business", please, it was a total absence of regulation that put us in this mess to begin with."

      Not really. The housing crisis was caused precisely because banks had to give out subprime loans, thanks to policies enacted under Clinton.

      October 19, 2011 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Boss Hogg

    I am switching my support from Obama to Cain. The 999 Plan will save a well off man such as I a considerable amount in loot – federal income tax that is. Self interest is divine...

    October 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Ted

    So our chosen politicians either lied, were misleading or were misstating the facts to the American people, nothing new under the sun.

    October 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Ted

    Fact, this is the slowest loading page on the internet..

    October 19, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Moses kestenbaum ODA

    Eliminat the IRS just do a VAT tax and save 60 billion IRS budget a vat tax is easy to oversee

    October 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Moses kestenbaum ODA

    Eliminate the IRS just do a VAT tax and save 60 billion IRS budget a vat tax is easy to oversee

    October 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      Hey Teabagger, the IRS FY2012 is $12 Billion. Still alot. But like all neocon dramaqueens, you distort the truth to INCREASE IT FIVEFOLD.

      October 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      ryan: "Hey Teabagger, the IRS FY2012 is $12 Billion. Still alot. But like all neocon dramaqueens, you distort the truth to INCREASE IT FIVEFOLD."

      Hey Freeloader, the IRS's budget is $12 Billion. That's a lot. But like all liberal drama/dragqueens, you distort the truth to MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT ISN'T A LOT.

      October 19, 2011 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob in NOLA

      The actual cost is much higher, along the lines of 400 billion spent nationwide on tax system compliance, that doesn't come out of the federal budget that comes out of the pockets of taxpayers and businesses alike trying to comply with the code. Correction of the tax code is critical if we expect to recover from the this depression.

      October 19, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Centaur

    Gee, politicians telling incomplete, misleading half-truths. That's a shocker!
    If you're sick and tired of deceptive politicians, then stop voting for them.

    October 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Moses kestenbaum ODA

    Eliminate the IRS and save 60 million just do a vat tax its cheap and easy to manage

    October 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Handofdom

    HOW ABOUT CHECKING ON OBAMA AND ALL HIS LIES !

    October 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • MindiK

      He wasn't in the GOP debate.That black guy was Herman Cain.

      October 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Moses kestenbaum ODA

    Eliminate the IRS and save 60 billion just do a vat tax its cheap and easy to manage

    October 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
  11. DDanny1

    You know what would be a GREAT debate format? Split the debate in half. The first half of the debate is the normal question/answer/rebuttal format. But during the entire debate and "halftime" you have experts standing by looking for lies, misrepresentations and unsubstantiated statements. Then the second half would be "Here's what you said, and here's what the REAL TRUTH is. So are you uninformed, misinformed or just a liar". After you get through with that, the moderator tells the candidate how many questions they avoided answering in the first half as decided by a non-partisan panel, and now they can either answer the question of admit they didn't have an answer by avoiding the question.

    October 19, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      It would be. But it's interesting to note that when Herman Cain says something that's true, but not true in every scenario (e.g., true in A, B, C but not D) CNN labels it "misleading". When a Democrat says something misleading (e.g., it's true in A,B, C but not D) CNN calls it "true" but "incomplete".

      Great double standard.

      October 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
  12. GaryB

    Hey, hey , hey, let's not muddy conservative political marketing with something as inconvenient as facts.

    October 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
  13. JesusM

    Bs

    October 19, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Byrd

    What 5 things did we learn about republicans in the debate?

    1. Republicans lie.
    2. Republicans lie.
    3. Republicans lie.
    4. Republicans lie.
    5. Republicans lie.

    I'd say that about covers it.

    October 19, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Abnguy

      6. All the candidates look like honest Abe when compared to President Obama who could not keep 90% of his campaign promises and is leading the most secretive administration yet.

      October 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  15. amalasan

    Fact checking the republicans would be a full time job. Probably would take hundreds and hundreds to wade through that.
    Hey we can end unemployment AND enlighten america on just how full of it the republicans are all at once!

    October 19, 2011 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      Lol. You talk about "enlightenment" when you're as partisan and dogmatic as any Republican.

      How cute.

      October 19, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
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