Overheard on CNN.com: Pipeline benefits worth the risks?
Opponents of a proposed oil pipeline protest Tuesday near a San Francisco fundraiser attended by President Obama.
October 28th, 2011
05:29 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Pipeline benefits worth the risks?

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Green donors warn Obama: 'Do the right thing' on Keystone pipeline

Frustrated by what they see as President Barack Obama's failure to honor his environmental promises, former campaign donors are threatening to withdraw financial support if he fails to block the Keystone XL oil pipeline. CNN.com readers talked about their political choices, and argued over whether the economic benefits of the pipeline were worth the environmental risks.

longtooth said, "The choice is clear. You can support Obama, who at least admits the possibility of global warming and our role in it, or you can abandon him, and give the White House to Romney, Perry, Cain, or one of the others in the Flying Republican Circus."

757Matt said, "Given the current global economic issues and our continued dependence on foreign oil - unless the government is going to buy everyone a hybrid - it makes sense to sign this bill."

No9 said, "I am a Democrat, with solar panels on my roof, wind power for the rest of my electric, and a high mileage car. I support this pipeline. The product will be sold to someone. Why not us? Don't you want to buy from a friendly country? This is crazy, build it now."

mgcanmore, who identified as a geologist, said, "Protesting this pipeline is irrational. Transporting hydrocarbons has a small inherent risk regardless of how you do it: tankers, trucks, rail or pipeline. Here we have a huge source of North American oil - second only to Saudi Arabia - and these protesters want to shut it down."

But TruthToTell said, "It's not just the threat from the pipeline itself, the oil will be dirty oil from tar sands, the production and then the refining of which produce a double whammy to the environment. Clinton's State Department out-sourced its "review" of Keystone XL pipeline this year to a corporation that is a close business associate of Keystone. The results were predictable - 'the project is simply peachy.'"

eadfrmfront said, "The pipeline helps lessen American dependence on Middle East oil and will create thousands of jobs."

SKSPLS asked, "Why does Trans Canada want to build a tar sands oil pipeline all the way to the Gulf coast? The intent is to ship the refined products to more lucrative overseas markets, thereby negating any effect the pipeline might have with regard to U.S. foreign oil dependence."

frflyer said, "Alberta tar sands is the most destructive project on the planet. It produces 2-3 times the CO2 emissions of normal oil production. It is endangering the Athabascan River watershed, one of the most important in North America. It is endangering the Canadian Boreal Forest, one of the most important ecosystems on the planet, as well as being one of the biggest carbon sinks on the planet."

SeriousDude said, "We have a very short-term mentality in this country, so environmental issues almost always get pushed to one side when someone raises energy or jobs or virtually anything as a short-term expedient. Jobs and energy can usually be obtained by alternate means; a destroyed environment is often lost for ever."

Busted2010 said, "Poisoning ground water in a state whose economy relies heavily on agriculture is not pro-job growth."

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soundoff (191 Responses)
  1. chrissy

    Asking Barack Obama to do the right thing is just like asking it to snow in Arizona in July! Since he assumed the Presidency, he has yet to do anything right!!!

    October 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    @ bobcat:
    I grew up down where you are–but up on a level with Jackson & Meridian.
    Then, it snowed c. once every 6 years, if I remember correctly.
    This is white and will be until morning.

    October 29, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    !!!Troll, I think.

    October 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  4. banasy©

    Hood morning, all.

    October 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  5. banasy©

    Good morning, rather.
    Anf ypou would be correct, JIF.
    You know, the same troll who stole your name and bobcat's, among others.

    It never stops!!!

    October 29, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  6. bobcat2u

    Good morning banasy. Troll man is starting early today.

    Yeah. joey, that first snow is always pretty at first. It doesn't last long though.
    I've been down here 35 years and have seen it snow maybe 3 times.

    October 29, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scottish Mama

      Dang, if that was not you I might have answered them. Oh,well. I have to build something, see you all later, even the trolls I assume.

      October 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Cassandra Chu

    Obama lied to the Greenies... and gave a bunch of tax dollars to the CEO crooks who were running fraudulent Green Energy companies...
    Obama lied to the Anti-War activiests... and continued to keep troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa... and Defense spending actually went UP!
    Obama lied to 1 billion Muslims... to whom he promised a balanced MidEast peace process approach.
    OBAMA IS A LIAR.

    October 29, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Well said, Cassandra Chu. Barack Obama never kept any of his promises but instead chose to work for the MIC(military-industrial-complex) in Washington, not to mention the people that he's butchering in both Afghanistan and Pakistan day after day through the use of those ungodly drones. The very use of those godless aircraft both villify and disgrace this country to no end!!!

      October 29, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      Thank you both, Cassandra and bobcat2u. Bobcat2u, you nailed it when you metioned those cursed drones above. I might add that those creeps operating them need to be brought to justice along with that friggin' Obama, but won't sadly enough. Like JFK once said, life is not fair!

      October 29, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Not me @4:28PM

      October 29, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  8. saywhat

    @ Cassandra Chu

    You are right in as much as he didn't do all those things. The winds of 'Change' never blew across this land. But the lying part doesn't seem to click. I think his intent was honest but when he sat down on that hot seat in the Oval office he found a brick wall surrounding the desk instead of a bunch of wise men/women to help him out and an opposition only interested in making his presidency fail.
    Seymour Hersh, that outspoken Washington insider, columnist & writer has revealed that the President doesn't even get honest briefings on Defence, Foreign policy , Intelligence etc. Folks surrounding him push their own & lobbys' agenda.
    His fault ? Yes he should have picked people aligned with his own thinking right away when he took over.

    October 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scottish Mama

      Nice post Saywhat, level headed and honest.

      October 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  9. saywhat

    @ Scottish Mama
    thanks

    I don't know if you folks have heard the stunning news that we lost 18 more troops in Afghanistan yesterday ( CNN reporting).
    God, when is this madness going to end? Has this (once?) great nation of ours become the opium eaters of the 20th century?
    Does nothing stirs us up anymore? Wars, thousands of American lives being lost, tens of thousands of innocent men, women & children dying, death & destruction. An unending cycle of violence.
    I shiver when I dare to visualize the world my grand kids would face when they grow up if this madness continues and we are kept straddled withe mindset & propaganda that landed us in this mess.
    Another news today, Israel has started using drones to kill Palestinians, 6 were killed . And why not . Why shouldn't they do what we do with the hardware our tax payers give them?
    Lets get on with more of bloodshed & violence. Not enough have we had just yet.

    October 29, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  10. banasy©

    Omg...
    I don't *care* anymore about securing our supply of oil and preventing another country from getting it...
    I don't *care* about stabilizing a country that is so hell-bent on destroying themselves that they would kill the very people who are trying to give them peaceful options...
    I just don't *care* about the politics of Afghanistan any more...
    Bring our troops home.
    Now, sooner than later.

    October 29, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  11. banasy©

    NOT bobcat at 4:28.

    !!! troll strikes again.

    October 29, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Oh yes it was, you Tea Partying troll! You Tea Partiers think of everything but did any of you ever finish grade school???

      October 29, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  12. bobcat2u

    Not me @4:40PM either.
    Thank you banasy.

    October 29, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      The next thing you Tea Partying trolls will be posting here is, JIF; not me @ 12:50 either, I presume!!! For the record, I did post at @ 4:35 pm.

      October 29, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  13. bobcat2u

    @saywhat
    That was a very well stated post. Not many people would argue with that. But I'm sure there will be ONE to mix words around.

    October 29, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Hayter

    Canadian troop also, man Canadian infantry leaves and it all falls apart 😉 Pro patria to the Canadian and a hoorah for our American brothers! Thank you...

    October 29, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  15. banasy©

    We know it wasn't bobcat. It was you.
    Not JIF @4:35, 5:07.
    !!! Troll.
    Now please go away.
    You're tiring.

    @Hayter:
    And we thank the Canadian troops, too!

    October 29, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat2u

      Why, are you trying to tell us that you're not? Of course you are since you never have anything worthwhile on your mind anyway. In fact, you can quit trolling the rest of us who have things to say here!!!

      October 29, 2011 at 11:41 pm | Report abuse |
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