Overheard on CNN.com: 'Life at conception' amendment is backwards
Mississippi votes on a "personhood" initiative this year. Similar measures in other states have been soundly defeated.
November 4th, 2011
06:07 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: 'Life at conception' amendment is backwards

Comments of the Day:

"Why is it that everywhere I turn the religious people are trying to destroy civil rights in this country?"–shockerwhoa3

"GOP legislating morality again, I thought they were for small government?"–TheMFTruth

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour says he decided life does begin with conception, an issue Mississippi voters will vote on this Tuesday. Most CNN.com readers said the state amendment to define when life begins was regressive and poorly thought out.

Mississippi voting on amendment to declare fertilized egg a person

Norps asked, "What right have the voters to decide such a question? Most of them are uninformed on the medical or scientific facts and are voting by their gut feelings: completely inappropriate to put such a question to the voters."

new2wi said, "This type of primitive thinking is not surprising; after all Mississippi public schools rank 50th in the nation."

discofever21 said, "This is a philosophical question as much as it is a question of science or religion. It needs continued debate so I applaud the measure on its merits at least. I personally go back and forth on the issue." CedarRapids replied, "I'm not sure making state constitutional amendments based on philosophical questions is a great idea."

rfulle12 said, "And so it begins. The attack on Roe v. Wade will be a big issue this coming election. The conservative right does not look too different than the mullahs in Iran. They want to control every aspect of our lives based on their view of religion. Scary stuff indeed!"

Capercorn said, "I'm a Roman Catholic. However, it only takes a trip to your nearest closet to be reminded that coat hangers exist. And everyone and their grandma agrees that those are bad. This is one of those many instances where something looks like it works on paper, but in practice, works horribly."

soporifix said, "It's easier dealing with stupid stuff like this than any actual problems. That's why Republicans love abortion."

MOrsini said, "We can assume that the state will take care of all the unwanted children then, meaning taxpayers will pay for each and every single one of them that is given up for adoption yet does not end up adopted ... talk about poorly thought-out propositions."

NuttinWrong said, "If people don't want kids, they don't have to have them. I'd rather hear about 2,000 abortions than 2,000 unwanted children."

MET100 said, "When men start having babies, as in being pregnant, it would be an appropriate discussion as to 'Choice.' Until then this is a woman's decision and the state has no right to interfere."

waldenu08 asked, "So does this mean that 1) child support begins at conception, and 2) corporations are NOT persons in Mississippi?"

toth88 asked, "When does America get to vote on whether Mississippi is a state?"

Put the elderly on ice?

At what point do we surrender to death, asks 83-year old sociologist and CNN.com columnist Amitai Etzioni. Regardless of age, "we should learn to accept death more readily' and "stop aggressive interventions when there is little hope," he writes. Many CNN.com readers said they wanted to be able to exit gracefully.

MindFire07 said, "I want to die on my own terms. I refuse to be forced into confinement in a bed with a useless, broken body until I finally expire.If I ever find out that I'm on Death's short list, then I'll ask him to put me on the VIP list. No need to spend resources on sustaining whatever's left of my time. Spend it on those who need it, those who need just a jump start to be productive."

LBColorado said, "For me, personally, I do not want my family to endure my pain. Therefore, if a machine is keeping me alive, unplug it. The percentages are not in my favor and I am OK to 'Let go and Let God.' "

Christie said, "Quality of life, not age, should be the # 1 criteria. What is the point in living if you are unable to enjoy the simplest things? We should all be able to say enough is enough and be allowed to go off into the sunset in peace."

AngryDeuce said, "I watched all four of my grandparents suffer and die as they were ravaged by terminal cancer. After going through that, I made a decision: I refuse to suffer needlessly. When there's no hope left for me, I plan to leave this world on my own terms, regardless of what the current legal status of euthanasia is."

But rickygf said, "There's no such thing as dying gracefully. I'm terminally ill and want every minute. I do have good health care, thanks to the VA."

COULROPHILE asked, "Can someone please explain to me why people in their 60s are getting organ transplants?" Guest said, "Try asking this again when you're 60 and lying in a hospital bed with only 6 months to live and you need a transplant. Once you experience that you will have your answer."

handshake said, " 'Everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die to get there' is an old saying."

seallover said, "I plan to live to 150 because I have a lot of work to do and intend to do it to benefit my fellow man. I don't care if I have to wear a Darth Vader suit to stay alive, I damn well better be compensated by my Medicare."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. banasy©

    Here's my position, once again:
    I would never personally have one, but I have no right to tell any other woman what to do with her body.
    And neither does anyone else. At all.
    I'd be more than happy to see this amend ment passed, with an addendum: that there is a law passed that let's this same legislative body decide when, where, and how men can have intercourse.

    Mandate that the people who stand out at abortion clinics be forced to hand over their SS number, and be forced to care for the pregnant woman, and take the baby after birth, raise it in the manner also mandated by law.

    et every pregnant woman everywhere contemplating abortion have the names and addresses of those who would look down at a pregnant woman; ley them be the first to step up to the plate.

    It's not going to happen.
    And neither should this amend ment.

    November 5, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  2. CraZy Phil

    virtually every single American man, woman, and child understand that the life of our National Symbold Maerican Bald Eagle is very valuable, and agree that even that eagles fertilized egg should be protected, and therefor is protcted by law. Yet these same people argue over wether an fertilized human egg should be protected by law. Who here thinks it should be legal to destroy a fertilized Bald Eagles egg? Not even one of you.

    November 5, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Retarded Child

    Question... Look at your child and tell us if you could go back, would you abort them?

    November 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dott

      I would never deliver a retarded child if I was warned early on that it was defective. In some cases Medical science has given mankind the ability to identify these possible problems. To continue to deliver such child that could have years , if not decades of painful surgeries, is the absolute of selfishness. Caring only for yourself and not the child- love it enough to let it go. .

      November 5, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  4. CraZy Phil

    @Mmmm...'Hag' isn't trademarked that I know of. Feel free to apply it to any old bra burner whom have aborted their own child or support abortists. They really have no choice. If they were to admit that an fertilized Bald Eagles egg should rightly be protected by law, they would be admitting that their own abortion was murder, or that by supporting abortists they are accomplices to murder. They have boxed themselves into a corner and so fight like old ladies do...with the authority of a wet rag.

    November 5, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dott

      Phil as soon as our medical genius can invent a way to allow a male to concieve and deliver a child only then should you have a voice in the process. A male's few seconds of input into this process should not give him the authority to dictate what a woman should and should not do with her body. Her egg her body so her decision.

      November 5, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Medical geniuses...you mean mad scientists! The only thing science is capable of is destruction and discovering existing principle that it did not as a discipline create. Who is like unto God? Your wisdom is folly and your arrogance he laughs and mocks...you run and hide from the wind, the elements of the earth, and its animals can take your life...water can bless you and the same cup will also drown you...you are a dumb dott

      November 5, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      ...the a "." period makes more sense than you...dott.

      November 5, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dott

      Mmmmm Male of course, so what do you call it when those mad scientist can place 29 eggs into a pitri dish and fertilize them allowing a woman to have a litter of babies. Is that mad science? Some ignorant men stay so far back in the past that they can refuse to accept the fact that women no longer will allow themselves to be told what to do and when to do it. It is a new day and age grow up it will make your life better. If we don't want another child for what ever the reason – IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Got it?

      November 5, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Scottish Mama

    @MFS You made the decision let others make they're decision. Who are you to make the decision of others?

    November 5, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  6. CraZy Phil

    Who will be the second man here to publicly proclaim that an American Bald Eagle's fertilized egg is righty protected by law and for good reason. Who will be the very first woman (literally, wombed man) on CNN to take a public stand for how righteous our laws are that protect Bald Eagle's fertilized eggs?

    November 5, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    @ banasy, Scottish Mama:
    Hello.
    @ Philip:
    I'm not interested in what anybody in the ancient Roman senate said about this subject.
    We've learned a lot since then. What did the Roman senators decide to do about nuclear weapons?
    Also, when I think, I don't rush to see what some authority, or movie star, or Mother Teresa thinks: that would prevent my own thinking.
    I think that I am a considerably better thinker about this subject than Mother Teresa was.
    I'm sure that she handled a Rosary better than I could. That's why I never pose with a Rosary when my picture is taken.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Scottish Mama

    Actually Phil the protection of the Bald eagle came about because people were shooting them out of the sky and the numbers were low, not because people were stealing or destoying eggs.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    You tell 'em, Mama!

    November 5, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  10. banasy©

    I will us the term "hag" is I can find a bra-burning woman who aborted their baby, if I can find one...
    I was between the ages of 2 and 12 in the bad-ass 60's.
    I *can* testify that my mother never did any of those things.

    Who will be the first man to stand outside an abortion clinic with a room ready for the woman, care and prenatal and birth expenses, and formally adopt the child he has forced the woman to have?

    If one is going to protect the eagle egg, one should step up to the plate and take care of the baby in one is so vehemently protecting here, also.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Scottish Mama

    Shoould viagra not be sold. I think the more hard men the more the sperm gets planted. What about the morning after pills? I think if you are going to take away abort., you should make everyone take education on how babies are made and born, I think that should be added to the a*mend*ment.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  12. kim

    Not every egg is meant to hatch and every egg doesn't become a child I think this is just stuuupid as they come and rude just rude and stupidity why don't they just mind there own business

    November 5, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Scottish Mama

    Phil, I think since you had a child you should have to stay in the marriage until the child is 21.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  14. banasy©

    Hi, JIF, Mama.
    Have you noticed that not one man has agreed to hand out their address to support a woman who cannot raise a child, for whatever reason?
    Have you noticed that no woman has, either?

    I have.

    A very convenient hypocrisy, no?

    November 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Obviously, there is a terrible problem caused by the shrinking population of the planet.
    Aside from the dictates of Venus and Adonis as discussed by political leaders in ancient Rome, we must vote on a pragamatic decision to outlaw abortions, or the human race will soon die out.
    We need a lot more people to fight the tigers.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
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