Overheard on CNN.com: 'Life at conception' amendment is backwards
Mississippi votes on a "personhood" initiative this year. Similar measures in other states have been soundly defeated.
November 4th, 2011
06:07 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: 'Life at conception' amendment is backwards

Comments of the Day:

"Why is it that everywhere I turn the religious people are trying to destroy civil rights in this country?"–shockerwhoa3

"GOP legislating morality again, I thought they were for small government?"–TheMFTruth

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour says he decided life does begin with conception, an issue Mississippi voters will vote on this Tuesday. Most CNN.com readers said the state amendment to define when life begins was regressive and poorly thought out.

Mississippi voting on amendment to declare fertilized egg a person

Norps asked, "What right have the voters to decide such a question? Most of them are uninformed on the medical or scientific facts and are voting by their gut feelings: completely inappropriate to put such a question to the voters."

new2wi said, "This type of primitive thinking is not surprising; after all Mississippi public schools rank 50th in the nation."

discofever21 said, "This is a philosophical question as much as it is a question of science or religion. It needs continued debate so I applaud the measure on its merits at least. I personally go back and forth on the issue." CedarRapids replied, "I'm not sure making state constitutional amendments based on philosophical questions is a great idea."

rfulle12 said, "And so it begins. The attack on Roe v. Wade will be a big issue this coming election. The conservative right does not look too different than the mullahs in Iran. They want to control every aspect of our lives based on their view of religion. Scary stuff indeed!"

Capercorn said, "I'm a Roman Catholic. However, it only takes a trip to your nearest closet to be reminded that coat hangers exist. And everyone and their grandma agrees that those are bad. This is one of those many instances where something looks like it works on paper, but in practice, works horribly."

soporifix said, "It's easier dealing with stupid stuff like this than any actual problems. That's why Republicans love abortion."

MOrsini said, "We can assume that the state will take care of all the unwanted children then, meaning taxpayers will pay for each and every single one of them that is given up for adoption yet does not end up adopted ... talk about poorly thought-out propositions."

NuttinWrong said, "If people don't want kids, they don't have to have them. I'd rather hear about 2,000 abortions than 2,000 unwanted children."

MET100 said, "When men start having babies, as in being pregnant, it would be an appropriate discussion as to 'Choice.' Until then this is a woman's decision and the state has no right to interfere."

waldenu08 asked, "So does this mean that 1) child support begins at conception, and 2) corporations are NOT persons in Mississippi?"

toth88 asked, "When does America get to vote on whether Mississippi is a state?"

Put the elderly on ice?

At what point do we surrender to death, asks 83-year old sociologist and CNN.com columnist Amitai Etzioni. Regardless of age, "we should learn to accept death more readily' and "stop aggressive interventions when there is little hope," he writes. Many CNN.com readers said they wanted to be able to exit gracefully.

MindFire07 said, "I want to die on my own terms. I refuse to be forced into confinement in a bed with a useless, broken body until I finally expire.If I ever find out that I'm on Death's short list, then I'll ask him to put me on the VIP list. No need to spend resources on sustaining whatever's left of my time. Spend it on those who need it, those who need just a jump start to be productive."

LBColorado said, "For me, personally, I do not want my family to endure my pain. Therefore, if a machine is keeping me alive, unplug it. The percentages are not in my favor and I am OK to 'Let go and Let God.' "

Christie said, "Quality of life, not age, should be the # 1 criteria. What is the point in living if you are unable to enjoy the simplest things? We should all be able to say enough is enough and be allowed to go off into the sunset in peace."

AngryDeuce said, "I watched all four of my grandparents suffer and die as they were ravaged by terminal cancer. After going through that, I made a decision: I refuse to suffer needlessly. When there's no hope left for me, I plan to leave this world on my own terms, regardless of what the current legal status of euthanasia is."

But rickygf said, "There's no such thing as dying gracefully. I'm terminally ill and want every minute. I do have good health care, thanks to the VA."

COULROPHILE asked, "Can someone please explain to me why people in their 60s are getting organ transplants?" Guest said, "Try asking this again when you're 60 and lying in a hospital bed with only 6 months to live and you need a transplant. Once you experience that you will have your answer."

handshake said, " 'Everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die to get there' is an old saying."

seallover said, "I plan to live to 150 because I have a lot of work to do and intend to do it to benefit my fellow man. I don't care if I have to wear a Darth Vader suit to stay alive, I damn well better be compensated by my Medicare."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. Scottish Mama

    I think the father no matter the age, be required to give a DNA test and until that child is 21 he must provide support and have to help raise the child 50/50 till the child is 21. If the child was conceived by a relative he must be jailed immediately, castorated, and become a steralized.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Dott

    According to the lastest calculations – how many billion people are on this big ball in the sky? I doubt seriously that the human race will die out any time soon. Lack of food and water will take care of that with abortions being a non factor.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    @ banasy, 2:18:
    Don't forget that I once helped a young woman from Mississippi, whom I never met, get an abortion so she could have a good life.
    I'm willing to help with that.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    @ Dott:
    Did you think that my sarcastic 2:22 post was serious?
    Thank you.
    Maybe I'll try acting, if I'm that credible. I think I'd like to play King Lear.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Scottish Mama

    Now to be serious, it is proven that abolishing abortion, does not lesson the number of them. Actually it was the opposite in russia. Legalizing abortion made the numbers go down. Maybe it was education of the subject? Just as taxing smokers more does not make them quit.

    November 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Scottish Mama

    War kills young people, I think we should outlaw wars. Now that is the late term. So why have children that our government is going to send to a war for oil?

    November 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    All foolishness.
    Very simply, I would oppose requiring any of you religious zealots to have an abortion just because you got pregnant.
    If a thinking pregnant woman wants an abortion, it's her business entirely.

    November 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
  8. banasy©

    @JIF:
    I know, and you also know that my remarks were not targeted at you; rather the people who so vehemently oppose a woman's right to choose.
    These are the same people who could care less about the quality of life of the child *after* that child is born...
    Hypocrites often have their say then run away.
    But we're used to that, aren't we?

    You're a man who steps up when someone needs help; you're a man who doesn't judge what that help may be.

    November 5, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    This issue is a manifestation of the survival instinct, which, in part, causes humans and other animals to compete with others and excel.
    Excel: be "Better Than."
    Humans excel in different ways.
    Some are very beautiful. Some are very rich. Some run faster than others, or play the heck out of the piano. Some become famous.
    Other humans can never do any of those things. They can, however, tell the rest of the world, "look at me, I'm more holy and/or moral than you, as I would never eat a cow, have an abortion, or fail to say my evening prayers, so I'm Better Than you."

    November 5, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. UNCLE RAY

    @Phillip ,just do what you did with Uncle Ray, swallow all sp€rm that is not intended for fertilization,problem solved and you get your jollies!

    November 5, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  11. American Bald Eagles' fertilized egg

    Every single person on this thread is afraid to admit the obvious: An Eagles fertilized egg should be protected by law.

    November 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Retarded Child

    Man rules over animal, who rules over man?

    November 5, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Irrelevant analogy.
    Our species is not at all endangered. American Bald Eagles are.
    Actually, tortoises in the Galapagos mean more to me than eagles. I BELIEVE in Darwin.

    November 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Retarded Child

    Who was Darwins creator? LOL 🙂

    November 5, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat (in a hat)

      I'm sure it was probably the man who impregnated his mother.

      November 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  15. banasy©

    I'm not afraid to say anything, American Bald Eagles' fertilized egg Philip; if you want to protect an eagle egg, go ahead.
    We won't stop you.

    November 5, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
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