Overheard on CNN.com: Murray was a scapegoat
Dr. Conrad Murray listens in court.
November 7th, 2011
06:20 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Murray was a scapegoat

Comments of the Day:

"Justice has been served. Assisting a self-destructive man in destroying himself is a crime."–TonyWestover

"American justice system sucks. Casey, who killed Caylee, goes free; and Jackson, who was walking dead when alive, died and Murray goes to jail.–PeterDesai

Verdict reached in Conrad Murray trial

Dr. Conrad Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson. The prosecution, in closing arguments on Thursday, argued Murray was responsible for Jackson's death because his reckless use of propofol to treat Jackson's insomnia in his home was criminally negligent.

Many CNN.com readers said Murray was a scapegoat, but others disagreed. Before the verdict was announced, Bremen said, "Whether he is innocent or not, I would almost bet this man is gonna be found guilty. When people like Michael Jackson die like that, someone is taking the blame, no matter what the case."

bjj said, "Jackson was a propofol addict for years, according to his plastic surgeon, and Murray was his doctor for two months? I find it hard to believe he was convicted. This is sad."

foxxyredd28 said, "I disagree with the verdict! Dr. Murray only did what MJ really wanted him do. However he did violate medical codes and deserves to lose his license, but I feel he should not have to go to jail. I love Michael Jackson, but truth is he was a drug addict and he was going to die from drugs regardless whether it was Dr. Murray or whoever!"

AndyDaniel said, "Definitely a tough call for me. Negligent, probably, but criminally so? That's tougher. Murray obviously did not want Jackson to die. Did Murray push the boundaries of safety because he didn't want to be fired by his world-famous client? Possibly."

But lajmh said, "As a professional in the medical field, Murray knew that this drug was only used in hospital. If Michael insisted - for whatever reason - then Murray should've had Michael admitted to hospital for the insomnia."

fred72202 said, "Dr. Murray acted unethically and should at least lose his medical license and probably do jail time. It is a sad tragedy. The drugs given were not appropriate, and the equipment and staff that should have been there when those drugs are in use were not there. Gross negligence."

pel11 said, "Guilty of abusing his medical license. What a disgrace to the medical profession."

Older Americans are 47 times richer than young

The American dream may have gone pear-shaped, if new numbers on median net income are any indication. The gap in median net worth between young and old has increased to 47 to 1, up from 10 to 1 in 1984, according to analysis by the Pew Research Center. Households headed by people 65 and older were compared to those headed by people 35 and younger.

CNN.com readers argued over who was at fault. driven1420 said, "If younger people would save money instead of spending on the latest iPad, iPhone or other device, they would have more money. Older Americans learned early on it was more important to save than spend."

dallaslib said, "A 'can do spirit' just doesn't cut it anymore. If the older generation insists on believing that they have something that we don't, please, PLEASE keep your mouth shut. We're busy trying to sort this mess you made."

iPhonefanboi said, "It's OK cause we the young people can work for at least 60 years as long as we don't get fired and no kids. Kids are too expensive for young couples. I am getting a vasectomy."

SLBoston said, "The American dream is still alive and well if you are smart about it. If you get a degree in most humanities courses or other worthless subjects, you're not going to have a job. If you have a degree in the medical field, virtually any science, engineering, accounting, etc, you will probably find a job fairly easily."

Fdf Fdfhfghg said, "Not enough jobs. Too many gone to China and automation. People at the top paying themselves too much. Economic bubble shrinking. Bad schooling and parenting/too many anti-intellectuals. Free trade and pure capitalism failed."

tellnolies said, "Higher education costs were far, far lower 25 years ago, and a smaller percentage of high school grads went on to college because a degree wasn't as necessary back then to land a decent paying job as it is now."

FreeWillzyx5 said, "The first half of the baby boomers and the tail end of the generation before them had it better than any other in American history in terms of economic conditions. The young people I see tend to work their asses off just to keep from drowning, because the baby boomers climbed the ladder and pulled it up behind them."

Do you feel your views align with these commenters' thoughts? Post a comment below or sound off on video.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

soundoff (35 Responses)
  1. Andreas Moser

    Is Michael Jackson dead?

    November 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pete/Ark

      Ain't it nice.

      November 7, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • kathy

      ARE YOU?

      November 8, 2011 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |
  2. rhoda1986

    Everyone seems to forget, that Dr. Murray was not the ONLY one responsible for the death of Michael Jackson. Everyone, including his own family knew he was highly addicted to drugs of all kinds yet it doesn't seem anyone one did ANYTHING to intervene and by doing nothing, they continued to be an enabler. Then again, how about going after all of the other Doctors who wrote Michael prescription after prescription, many in various fake names. One person cannot be fully to blame for another one's actions, so how about putting THEM on trial too???. I mean by the continued "presciption" abuse, they too contributed to Michael's death. Michael himself is the number one contributor to his own demise. No one forced him to take the number of drugs he did on a daily basis. , But No One stopped him either. Basically what this "verdict" says, is it's ok to be a drug addict, just make sure you die on your time, not the doctor's, but if by chance you die with a doctor present, then it becomes his fault, not yours... Come on people. Michael may have been a Superstar, and the "King of Pop" but he was far from being as perfect as he's been made out to be....He's be alive today if he hadn't been a highly addicted drug addict

    November 7, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Crazy about MBC

      He did the crime, now he's got to do the time.

      November 7, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dave

    Dr Murray was a state of California licensed drug dealer and Michael was his $150,000 per month drug addict customer.

    November 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Dave

    My previous post would have been my closing arguments

    November 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jeff Frank ( R - Ohio ) "Right Wing Insanity"

    Conrad Murray – Why do you waste my time like this. If you knew Mr. Jackson was in a state of mental anguish, why wasn't a referral made to a qualified doctor of the psychiatric community to help deal with his mental state of depression, rather than "preying" on it to see his own demise. So you see, your very own attorneys closing arguments, are, in fact, your own demise "as a physician". This will be the last time I post this.

    November 7, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Jeff Frank ( R - Ohio ) "Right Wing Insanity"

    @Anreas Moser – Is Micheal Jackson dead?
    Did your mommy and daddy lock you up in a basement somewhere, and beat you as a child.

    November 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
  7. banasy©

    @Jeff Frank:
    And it will be the last time you have to.

    November 7, 2011 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. s kel

    Your right Jeff im tired of hearing about this trial.

    November 7, 2011 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Pete/Ark

    CRAP! Anyone familiar with the term "enabler"?

    November 7, 2011 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Sambo

    spapegoat? he look like any other kneeegrow to me.

    November 7, 2011 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
  11. crazy bout nbc

    Nobody could stop MK...he had to STOP himself.

    November 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
  12. crazy bout nbc

    I think M Jackson looks like Herman Cain

    November 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • kathy


      November 8, 2011 at 6:51 am | Report abuse |
  13. s kel

    I dissagree Crazy About NBC M Jackson was murdered by a over paid doc.

    November 7, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elizabeth

      Dr. Murray worked for Jackson for about 2 months – presumably he was hired when Jackson fired his prior doctor(s) who would not go along with his wishes in terms of treating insomnia with large doses of the surgical anesthetic propofol at home. Don't you suppose Jackson could have hired another doctor who would happily administer the drug for a hefty paycheck? At least Dr. Murray was, to all accounts, trying to wean Jackson OFF the multiple drugs to which he was addicted. I'm with "crazy about nbc" on this – MJ needed to stop himself.

      November 7, 2011 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Elizabeth

    Dr. Conrad Murray was a convenient target for the wrath of an unhappy family, and the aspirations of a publicity hungry prosecutor (who may or may not have higher aspirations, who knows?). I agree he probably bears some responsibility for his not refusing to treat Jackson with this anesthetic outside a hospital, but where were the doctors who got MJ addicted to this stuff? - and the other drugs? Murray's 2 months of trying to wean Jackson OFF drugs was nothing in the face of the years of abuse condoned and supported by his predecessors. Murray is guilty of wanting second hand fame, maybe, but nothing more. Scapegoat? You bet!

    November 7, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |


    November 7, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elizabeth

      Exactly... I didn't say caring. I said unhappy.

      November 7, 2011 at 10:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • slider

      Enjoying his money?

      November 8, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
    • kathy


      November 8, 2011 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
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