November 10th, 2011
12:26 PM ET

Penn State grapples with conflict over coach's firing, horrific allegations

With feelings running high on campus after the firing of Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno and the university’s president, a debate is raging about where the focus should rest in the scandal.

The Happy Valley family is dealing with raw, conflicting emotions sparked by child rape allegations that threaten to shatter the reputation of a great football coach as well as the school’s image.

The expulsions of Paterno and Penn State President Graham Spanier capped another chapter in the fallout from charges against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

On Wednesday night, the man who had been at the helm of the iconic football program for 46 seasons was greeted by cheers befitting a father figure viewed as the face of the university.

Except this was no football celebration. It was like a farewell to an era as Paterno spoke to members of the crowd, who clutched phones and waved their arms in the air.

"What can I say, I'm no longer the coach," Paterno told about 15 students gathered outside his house late Wednesday. "It's going to take some time to get used to. It's been 61 years."

The crowd chanted that they loved Paterno. Some of the students, many of whom came to Penn State because of its storied football program, apparently weren’t sure how to cope with news of the famous coach's firing and the allegations of what happened.

iReport: In praise of Joe Paterno | Student, parents shocked by allegations

But Paterno, known for being hard-nosed when it comes to education, seemed to feel he needed to temper the mood of the students, telling them to go home and get some sleep. “Study,” he said, as he peered from the walkway of his home.

Chants of “We are Penn State,” the rallying cry of the school, could be heard in the background.

In the town of State College, that phrase has taken on a new meaning Thursday. And it’s one some of the students are fighting to protect -  especially after the scene on campus quickly changed overnight: Students spilled into the streets. A news van was tipped over.

Then massive crowds swarmed the Old Main, the former administration building. Things by all accounts got out of control.

While those scenes are played over and over again on TV stations across the country, many students say they don't want those images to define them.

Hundreds may have flocked to Paterno’s home or to the grand bronze statue that towers over the campus, but they represent a small percentage of Penn State’s 35,000 undergraduate students. Some, including T.J. Bar, the student body president, said they want to change the focus of this debate from the emotions of football to the seriousness of the alleged events.

In some ways, at University Park, the campus is divided.

Some still mourn the loss of the almost godlike coach they have grown to love. Others are struggling with the heinous allegations.

The question of how the campus should move forward was at the heart of an editorial in the campus newspaper The Daily Collegian:

“Wednesday night was an embarrassment for Penn State. This is about more than Paterno and Spanier. The way students reacted set our university two steps back," the editorial said. "Penn State does not need to be put in a worse light than its leaders already have. The spotlight was on Penn State last night and we only drew more negative national attention to the Penn State name. The national media did not come for the students, but they stayed because we put on a show.

"The emotions brought on by the night varied from somber and respectful to angry and unlawful. This is not what Joe would have wanted.”

But it is what unfolded. And it’s also what students are trying to change in the wake of the scandal that rocked the campus.

“I think the emotions kind of run the gamut in terms of Joe Paterno,” Bard said. “I think a lot of students are obviously in support of Joe Paterno, but I also think a lot of students are realizing there may be more to this story than we realized. At the end of the day fundamentally what matters most is that justice is found for victims and their family and they can truly find some closure after this.”

Dave Cole, a junior studying journalism and political science at Penn State, who grew up in State College and whose parents both teach at the school told CNN’s iReport that he thinks there’s a mix of anger about how the events unfolded as well as who should be blamed.

“People I think initially are very angry at the University for firing Paterno. I think that there are a lot of people that wish that more of the blame was being levied on Sandusky right now,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of animosity toward the media and the role that the media played in framing Paterno in this. A lot of anger, sadness and frustration in students.”

Bard said many students feel the story isn’t just about saving the reputation of a mighty football program. (The financial implications of the scandal may be heavy.) It should be about the alleged victims and the investigation of what took place on the campus.

“I think a lot of students are realizing that due to the national media coverage there’s been a huge oversight of the victims and their families in all of this, and I think students are getting very, very frustrated that this is more than about a football program or a coach - this is about the victims and finding justice for them at the end of the day.”

Daniel Johnson, a 23-year-old business student who was at the rally Wednesday night, told CNN's iReport the scandal has “tarnished everything we students have come to be proud of here at Penn State.”

Johnson said he rallied at the Old Main, not just in frustration about Paterno's firing, but in support of the alleged victims and as a cry against what he fears happened to them.

“We are not responsible for the decisions made by school officials, who at the end of the day are Joe's bosses. We firmly believe that Joe would never turn a blind eye to something as sick and disturbing as this, had he known the full extent of the situation,” Johnson said. “... We pray that the victims can find a way to move on from this and find peace.”

Bard said that a candlelight vigil was planned for the alleged victims as well as a slight change to this weekend’s football game. Instead of the traditional “white-out” in which the entire student body wears white in support of the Nittany Lions, students are encouraged to participate in a “blue-out.”

An unofficial Facebook page encouraged fans to wear blue "to support the victims of child abuse worldwide. The Blue Ribbon Campaign against child abuse began 22 years ago and is recognized across the country.

“In addition to being the color of our team's home game jerseys, blue represents the color of bruises that have too often been neglected,” the post said.

Bard said he hoped this weekend’s game would be a chance to change the tide.

“It’s not about a football program; it’s not about a coach. … (It's) about moving forward,” he said. “This is a crucial point for this student body to really be able to move forward, unite together and remember the pride that really is involved in Penn State.”

That's a sentiment that Cole couldn't agree with more. He also  hopes that this moment can be turned into a major turning point for the school.

“I think that the image of this university is as low as I can ever imagine it being. I think that bouncing back from this will be difficult. I think that my first impression of the decision is that it was for cleaning house and fixing the image as soon as possible. ... I think that how we bounce back is very important,” he said. “What a few thousand students did last night unfortunately speaks out as what the whole 40,000-student body did. I think that there needs to be a way to get out the message that these actions do not speak for the whole body.

"The nation and the media need to see Penn State not as a violent student body, but as a minority of the students who did it out of anger and that was not the way to demonstrate that.”

soundoff (1,613 Responses)
  1. Pete H

    Funny how things change when the religion of football comes into play. If Paterno was a Catholic bishop oh, how different this story would read.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ginny

      I agree with you 100%. This man knew something was happening and did nothing. The students need to realize that crimes were committed and those responsible need to be held accountable. I love Penn State and I love football and they are a great team, but if you are involved in something such as this and you are aware of it happening and do nothing you pay the price. Guilt by association, guilt by knowledge. Good luck to Joe, but he needs to acknowledge that he should have done more to have prevented it from escalating to where it did.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Founders1791

    Joe Paterno is being "convicted and sentenced" for an "alleged crime" that he did not commit or was involved with.

    Victim 6' Mother reported abuse to Campus Police in 1998, they notified Local Police, the District Attorney did not prosecute Sandusky after their investigation. Sandusky retires six months later.

    FOUR YEARS after College Administration, College Police, and Local Police KNEW OF SANDUSKY a graduate student "discovers" another incident in 2002. Coach Paterno IMMEDIATELY reports it Campus Police as required.

    After all of this WELL KNOWN PEDOFILIA, College and Local Police some of you want to blame Joe Paterno?

    This is WRONG and an INJUSTICE to Joe Paterno and his 60+ years in Penn State.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alfred Einsteen

      Oh well.....too bad. He's disgraced and fired. hahahahahahahahahahahh!!!!!!!!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Who

      He didn't report it to campus police, he reported it to the administration. Give me a break.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Founders1791

      You apparently can't read....

      November 10, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephieJ

      Founders, are you saying that if you heard from a credible and distraught witness (read the Grand Jury Indictment, if it doesn't make you sick, you ARE sick) about ANYONE sodomizing a young child in the showers on campus that you would just report to campus police and then put it out of your head? Add to the situation that it was one of your own (regardless of employment status, it is a man you worked with and trusted.) How would you sleep at night not knowing what was happening? How would you sleep at night with the realization that you could stop a predator and didn't follow through? I sincerely hope you are not as morally bankrupt as those involved, including Joe Paterno. They are as much to blame as that monster Sandusky is.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • frankie b

      Jo Pa needs to feel the pain of those children
      Maybe we can find five NBA players to meet him in a shower

      November 10, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Reason

    ahhhh we ARE just talking about football right? Get over it and yourselves.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephieJ

      Umm, no. We are talking about the systematic abuse of small children by a monster who was allowed to do so by people who were very aware of what he was doing. These are the people who were charged, by the way, with protecting our children.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • wandrel

      100% agree with you stephie!!!! It's about the victims.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
  4. cleveland01

    I'm not sure how legitimate the moving forward viewpoint is considering McQueary will be coaching on Saturday. It's pretty hypocritical to honor the victims at the game when a witness who did nothing to help the victims for years is standing on the sidelines. People need a dose of reality.., until all the peole in this molestation case have been named and held to some sort of accountability, tributes are meaningless.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Bill

    Eagle, daho. As a proud former Pennsylvanian I am sick at the abuse that occurred, but I am also mad, disgusted, incredulous at the school and medias treatment of Joe Paterno. Joe did not see the abuse, was not told the details, and did report what he heard to his superiors at the school. It was their action to take from there on, not Joe's. The Board of Trustees trashed Joe and his 46-years of exemplary service at Penn State. I hope they rot in he11. I sincerely hope that PSU's alumni contributions and endowments take a serious hit. The Trustees have tarnished PSU way beyond anything Joe is alleged to have done. Were I a football player there now, I would boycott the Nebraska game and the rest of the season. The Alumni now need to totally replace the Board of Trustees.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Becks

      If you love him so much, why don't you marry him? Sheesh.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herman

      "Hey, he reported it to his Athletic Director, what else could he do?"

      As if the blindingly obvious answer to that question is: nothing, nothing at all.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Orlop

    Tired of idiotic sports and their overpaid participants that are subsidized by government, the media, auto industry, snack food, brewers, etc. If they all stopped playing and went home would we really miss them? Go spend some time with your kids or go hiking, biking or out to dinner with your friends. You don't need to watch sports or buy their team shirts, coats, hats, socks, or underwear to make you happy. No wonder our economy is in trouble.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Kevin

    People and Students of the USA get your collective Heads pull out from your #@@, Yes it's a alleged "crime" key word is CRIME was committed and NO ONE REPORTED IT TO THE POLICE not your boss not your dad but POLICE!!

    To the Victims Families and the victims themselves you have my prayers. Don't let these heartless jerks bother you
    there is stupid people everywhere nowadays.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      If no one reported it, why did they have a grand jury in 2002??

      November 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Founders1791

      WRONG, it was reported to the police in 1998.

      Victim 6' Mother reported abuse to Campus Police in 1998, they notified Local Police, the District Attorney did not prosecute Sandusky after their investigation. Sandusky retires six months later.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  8. st

    so are these clowns rioting to show their support of child molestors or those that protect child molestors?

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Founders1791 they are protesting STUPID PEOPLE like you that make adolescent comments....

      November 10, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  9. True Independand Patriot

    If Paterno needs to go so does Mike Mcqueary. He did not notify police either. Regaurdless of who he told it was not the authorities. Where is his culpability in all this. Why should he get a pass?

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. nova1968

    Never thought i would see the day when so many people gather in support of an alleged pedophile....At the same time i wonder if they would leave their children alone in a locker room with this guy,,.why not show support for the victims?,,,Man this world is getting sicker by the day,,,

    November 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  11. tfsocal

    Blind/Misguided Loyalty. This is what led to this tragedy...

    November 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dave

    Did you just say takes Catholics? To what? Stand up for a guy they believe in? To say, wait a minute...he didn't do it, Sandusky did. To say, he reported it, do you want him to act as the police? Maybe the police should have interviewed the witness? Maybe they should have interviewed and arrested him earlier? You morons are acting like Paterno is the Coach, Police Chief, Judge, and Jury and let a go free. He is just a big name that the media wants to make a spectacle of because it SELLS! If Joe just sat tight, the media would move on to the NEXT Lindsay Lohan story, and focus on the ACTUAL GUY WHO COMMITTED THE UNSPEAKABLE ACTS. You people amaze me. FOCUS people FOCUS.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • bendaltex

      He should have called the cops when no one else did. I would have. Would you? End of story!

      November 10, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • IHopper


      November 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Az ShoeShopper

      Why everyone who heard about & most importantly witnessed it, didn't CALL THE POLICE right away, is the most mind-boggling to me. Every single one of them is culpable to different degrees and should face the consequences.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • an author

      Absolutely! As an educator for over 30 years, my legal and moral responsibility is to report any kind of activity that is harmful to young people when I hear about it....and to follow through to make sure the accusations are taken seriously by people in positions of authority...sadly, I had to report to authorities on a few occasions in child abuse situations and to follow through to make sure justice was done...Paterno should have done the same. He has NO excuses...nor do any Penn State officials, coaches, or staff people who were aware of the abuse.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • gah

      i absolutely agree. it wasn't a school matter, it was a CRIMINAL matter! just like if a crime happens in a church, it isn't a religious matter that should be held in confidence, it was criminal and should have been reported to the police authorities, not the school authorities. i wouldn't be surprised if the families and victims sue. I'm not advocating it, I just would be very very surprised if the school does not have to make financial compensation as a result of their trying to keep the matter handled "internally."

      November 10, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • lou50

      you are right!

      November 10, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • knowno

      Peterno didn't do it, he didn't see it being done, he reported what he was told to the President of Penn State and as far as he is conserned it was hear say!! What happened to the guy that saw it happening? You know the guy that told Peterno instead of the police... you know the eye-witness.... the guy that allowed a minor to be molested and thought it was his duty to inform the college instead of the police.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paterno is not an accomplice

      You can't assume what you'd have done as you don't even know the reporting procedures at Penn State. Paterno learned of one incident and he immediately reported it to his boss. Of course his boss said there would be a full investigation and the authorities would be notified. Why would Paterno think he should separately call the police when the director of athletics at Penn State just said we'll handle it there will be a full investigation. He wasn't even a witness. If McQueary was a witness he's the one who should have reported it.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • smeal

      Yes i would and still would call police,apparently these people in college are too smart for thier own good. Instuctors and students think they know better and are in college to be smart, well I don't see the smarts here, Do you?

      November 11, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • HeatherM

      He could have fired his A$$ but didn't. I would be DISGUSTED working or having anything to do with a pedophile, so yeah he should lose his job. He turned a blind eye to it,
      he could of threatened the University he would leave if they didn't take any action. The university would have done anything he said because he was the coach for God's sake.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • bottleman57

      Does anyone read? How could he have fired someone that was no longer an Employee of the University?

      November 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • rkt210

      Fired whose A$$? Sandusky had been retired for three years when this happened.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • No no no

      I'm guessing Sandusky was forced to retire based on earlier information that never made the light of day.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • JusticeSystem

      I'm sick of people ranting on and stating their speculation as fact. Fire him? Sandusky wasn't even still working at the University at the time.

      We don't know what Joe was told, and what really unfolded after that. People need to put down their pitchforks and torches and let the facts come out. Only then can you pass judgement.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kiki

      Didnt read the grand jury report?

      November 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Data1000

      No, Joe Paterno could not have fired him because he was no longer working for Joe at that time.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • K

      If you had read into to it more Paterno found out about this in 2002 Sandusky quit coaching in 1999 so how exactly would he fire someone that is no longer employed

      November 10, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • RichF

      The incident in question occurred in 2002. Sandusky left Penn State in 1999, so it would be difficult to fire someone who wasn't even employed by the University. It amazes me that no one questions what happened in 1998 when a boy's mother reported Sandusky to the police and he was taped admitting to the woman that he acted inappropriately and 'wished he could kill himself'. The cops could have had him then, and they never pressed charges. How come there isn't a clamor for heads to role at the police department??

      November 10, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      A good example of the lynch mob mentality that has taken over in the past should really know the details before you condemn Paterno...Sandusky wasn't his employee when this happened...he was retired...We don't know what Paterno knew...Give the facts time to come out before deciding who is to blame.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • lucy2

      I don't think Sandusky worked there at the time this was all discovered, he had retired by then, so technically he couldn't have fired him.
      But I totally agree that he could have and should have used his position at the university to force the administration to act properly, or done something, anything, more than he did. Everyone let the guy continue on his merry way for years. There's just no excuse.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phil

      Your represent the typical rush to judgment and mob mentality – You are exactly what makes America the most compassionate and moral country in the world! Bravo!

      Joe Pa did exactly what he had to do within the confines of his position but did not follow up on a higher moral responsibility. The Coach had a significant moral lapse, but HE WAS NOT THE PREDATOR. Your anger should be vented first and foremost at Sandusky, then at the administration officials who were notified and did NOTHING. Coach Paterno at least did what he had to do, he could have done more (And in hindsight could have followed up). But since neither one of us was there 15 years ago, we have no idea who told what to whom when and how often. But hey, we can try, convict, and punish somebody based on hearsay, blogs and our own imaginative reconstruction of what might have happened. Is this a great country or what?

      November 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • shut

      um. no. He retired 3 years before this. So, actually...

      November 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stacy

      Football is more important than a child's rear end. That is what this is about. I see you Penn State Students.. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You are going straight to hell with the rest of these losers.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Allie

      Sandusky was not a university employee at the time. Please know what you are talking about before replying.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kodiakj

      HeatherM - "...fired his a$$"...Sandusky was not working for Joe. In 2002 when Victim #2 was witnessed by the graduate assistant in the shower with Sandusky, he was three years retired from coaching. This did not happen in the Football stadium, it was a campus sports complex that had a 'PSU athlete's only" admittance. Part of Sandusky's retirment package was to have access to all areas of campus that he had when he was a coach. Again, your post is one of many who have not read the 23 page testimony are spouting off like you know all the facts but obviously don't. Bottomline is that the media goes after the biggest name and runs with it. Was JoePa wrong in this case? Legally...No (that is why he wasn't arrested) he morally wrong...Certainly as well as many other who nothing has happened to...i.e. this Saturday the Graduate Assistant (McQueary) will be on the sidelines...didn't he have an obligation to contact the police? He witnessed the act, didn't stop it, called his father, went home, slept on it, and told JoePa the next day! Sounds like he should have the same resolve as the many others in this matter.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • MIKE

      How was Paterno to fire someone who was already retired and was no longer with the football program?

      November 10, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      Heather, please, please, PLEASE educate yourself before commenting. Jerry Sandusky retired in 1999. He wasn't a coach in 2002 when this happened...

      November 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      He didn't have anything to do with Sandusky. He hadn't been a coach for 3 years when this occured. Check your facts. Don't just listen to the BS media.

      November 10, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Annelise

      Sandusky didn't work at Penn State in 2002. How was Paterno supposed to fire him?

      November 10, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan Sturgeon

      Don't be naive and think it is all about the press and pushing a story for money. Of course, it is about money. The media gets a piece of the pie and the Univerities' cover up is just as much in it for the dollars because that pristine reputation and lucrative sports program is what sells the University, brings in tuition and donations, and by the way also gives power to all the powers that be, including a powerful sports figure and icon. I love Joe Paterno, but no one is invincible and sometimes good people make poor decisions. Dave, unfortuately, when there is a cancer, you have to cut out the tumor as well as the surrounding tissue. Yes, it is about money and power. But, when justice and empathy triumphs over both of those things, humanity, liberty and freedom ring. I'm sorry you've had to lose your naivete with such a harsh and decisive blow. Welcome to the real world and the way the big boys play.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • And thats the rest of the story

      Well said Susan, well said indeed

      November 10, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Coco

      Excellent response, well said.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • sandiego1969

      Good post Dave.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • mnjoe

      The police could have done something if Paterno hadn't kept his mouth shut.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vincent L.

      Get off your high horse. He did what he was supposed to given what little information he had at the time. Gary Schultz was in charge of the police department and he knew.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tiger2

      I think you need to FOCUS and stop letting your emotional near reverent idolation of GoPA (Go Paterno to Hell) distort your reality. He is just as guilty as the rest, and I think when more of the facts come out, you will find that he knows way more than he's admitting to. The FOCUS as you allude to should be on the victims, not one of the facilitators.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Former Marine

      No, it's a big deal because he was informed about child abuse, and did the absolute bare minimum that he could. He didn't call the police, he didn't follow up and say "hey, why is this child abuser still working here?" No, he didn't actually commit the abuse, but by failing to follow up he allowed the abuse to continue for years. If you were told about possible abuse would you just let it lie?

      November 10, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      Allow a grown man to put his penis where it doesn't belong and your Football team should burn in hell for eternity.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • ranch111

      JoePo was part of the cover-up, bub.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • toadears

      YOU focus and read the whole indictment. Lots of people knew about this. The boys were ignored. Their parents were ignored. Law enforcement stalled. A clear case of prestige vs. criminal law. If it had been anybody else accused since the late 1990's of this kind of behavior, they would already be in jail. People went to Paterno's home and told him about this and he ignored it. FOR YEARS! I like Paterno as a coach, but he has failed completely as a man and law abiding citizen in this. And he knows it.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kiki

      It takes enablers doing nothing substantial that allows unspeakable acts to continue.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carla

      Indeed. They all enabled him to continue his sick torture on those boys.

      November 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Krb

      your nuts, he knew about it plain and simple, its called being an accessory to a crime, he belongs in jail. I don't give a damn about his reputation or his football record. He made a very serious mistake and covered this up. Facts are facts.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • You got it Mr.

      Sir you are soooooo right. I still cannot believe someone would defend him at the same time chastise the campus for firing him. What the hell is wrong with 'kids' these days? Wait until they are actually adults. I bet their opinions of this situation will be different and they will look upon their views from college with disgust. Time go grow up boys and girls. Your parents don't live here anymore.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • 16halo

      Sorry this is not about the media. and you others need to stop pretending that just because of who he is (Paterno) that we should make an exception for the decision he made when it was brought to his attention what was going on. I am a Paterno fan but I am also putting this into perspective. This is not about him personally, but what he did or did not do when the man working under him was accused of molesting these young men. I question his action and so should everyone else and I also pause to think if someone working for me was accused of a this sort of crime, would I just tell my superiors and leave it at that or do more. Given the crime and who it involves, I would hope most of us would do lot more than what Paterno did.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pellmellus

      Although too much attention is being paid to Paterno, he should be fired nonetheless. This has nothing to do with focus, and everything to do with integrity. The firing will continue, and McQueary will soon get the axe too. Defending someone who knew something wrong was going on but chose a path of meekness to save the reputation of his beloved football program is not integrity.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • CindyW

      Dave – I'm with you on this. I think Paterno is being railroaded. There is a chain of command that must be followed when allegations are made of this caliber. Paterno did the right thing by informing the college so an investigation could be conducted with the police. It would be a very different story if Paterno had actually witnessed the alleged abuse but he didn't – he was told about it 2nd hand. Joe did the right thing and is an unfortunate and convenient scapegoat for people who are only seeking revenge.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris Miller

      Seriously? The guy has more clout than anyone on campus. He was quoted as saying " I wish I had done more." His grand jury testimony was detailed about how the grad asst was shaken by what he saw. It was a horrific crime. You investigate, you call do what's right to protect children. You don't tell someone and then wash your hands of it.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      You must go to college because you are pretty stupid.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      Dave I think you are missing the point. True he reported it. But if the Grand Jury report is true it sounds as thought the act was downplayed in an attempt to keep hose involved, the university, etc. out of the spot light and himself gainfully employed. I doubt you have children. If you did I find id inconceivable that you would see it the way you appear to. Should he have called the police? YES! Should the Graduate Assistant gone in and grabbed the young boy and taken him out of the situation? YES! Should the AD, the coach, etc. fired the assistant on the spot and had the police present when they did so? YES!

      Don't get caught up in celebrity. A child's life is worth more than watching your hero coach from the sidelines each Saturday.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Krystal

      I believe the point was that he DIDN'T report it to the police, which is why they didn't investigate. They literally COULDN'T investigate because they were never notified. Paterno is just as guilty because he decided to keep the situation in house, when he should have called the police.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • berman

      Or we could try focusing on things that actually know, the wars we're fighting, the revolutions in the Arab world, Iran's nuclear weapons, the Palestinians at the UN, the Greek debt deal, the soon to be Italian bail out, or 9% American unemployment. FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stella

      You sound hysterical and confused. You seem astounded by the obvious fact that people who witness crimes are supposed to report them to the police. Why you find this surprising, or too high a standard of behavior, reflects poorly on you and is, frankly, mystifying.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Realist

      Catholic priests did the same evil to little children. Penn State is the same as those gay paedophile priests.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • ettoleb

      Imagine if it was you or you kid being f#$%k and he did nothing ,expect telling his boss cover his own ass. You would want him in jail or worse.Hi did not protect the ass of the innocents.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kiki

      How many times are you going to cut and pastenthis tripe?

      November 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jen King

      Paterno should have called I said in my above post, he is a mandated reporter. He only went to his boss in order to try and save the University and his football program from getting a black eye. They all failed these kids and therefore, they should all be fired. They basically condoned what was happening by not doing anything about it.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tess

      Um they are supporting the team, the team did not ask for any of this....i am catholic and i still support the football team, but i do not support the used to be president of psu or sandusky. They are the people that everyone should be talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      What if McQueary testifies at trial that he TOLD Paterno the disgusting details(sodomy of a 10 year old) which he witnessed that night. Would u think differently from a different point of view then? Someone's definitely lying here, either Joe and the 2 administraters OR Mike!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • stee

      that statement is ridiculous

      November 10, 2011 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • tldixon

      YES, you moron, decent people report crimes against children to the police-for healthcare providers it's legally mandated that child abuse be reported-you're a sick ticket if you think sweeping that sort of filth under the rug is OK-you need help-I bet you're catholic and think hiding pedo priests is ok-you spineless freak

      November 10, 2011 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • PSU DieHard

      Thank you Dave. There's a much bigger story here then anyone is focusing on. There's an obvious hypocrisy in the fact that everyone wants to blame Paterno for not doing more for these kids and their families, yet no one wants to discuss how to improve or help their situation. It's really sad that the general media and public want to demonize JoePa, yet forget about what really got us here in the first place. Forget JoePa, lets start discussing the true victims here!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herman

      "To say, he reported it, do you want him to act as the police? "


      Maybe the police should have interviewed the witness?


      The common Paterno defense is:

      "Hey, he reported it to his Athletic Director, what else could he do?"

      As if the blindingly obvious answer to that question is: nothing, nothing at all.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • C Mac

      Great observation Dave. Paterno had nothing to do with these crimes. What little he knew he immediately reported to authorities. People need to actually read more than the headlines.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • ed

      Paterno was just a 911 call away from doing the right thing and HE DID NOT!

      November 10, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Grey

      "To say, he reported it, do you want him to act as the police?"

      No Dave, but I do expect him to CALL THE POLICE. Focus Dave Focus!

      November 10, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herman

      "To say, he reported it, do you want him to act as the police? "


      Maybe the police should have interviewed the witness?


      The common Paterno defense is:

      "Hey, he reported it to the Athletic Director, what else could he do?"

      As if the blindingly obvious answer to that question is: nothing, nothing at all.

      November 10, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shocking...

      He knew, reported it and then swept it under a rug. He should've been proactive about making it public knowledge that Sandusky was a child molester. Give me a break people.

      November 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • MGM

      Yeah, paterno the spineless should have called the cops. what if that was your child?

      November 10, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • GatorALLin

      Joe Papa can now proudly carve in his tombstone.... the Arch Bishop of College Football

      November 10, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
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      November 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Listen Up

      Joe was just doing the kind of "things" that the Catholic Church taught him to do! Namely cover it up or condone it!

      November 10, 2011 at 8:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • JF

      he knew about the allegations and did not call the police. I'm not saying he's a judge, jury, the police, etc – but he had a moral obligation at the VERY least and he did not alert authorities. Would you sing the same tune if you knew one of the victims? especially one who was abused AFTER Paterno was alerted to the issue? I highly doubt it.

      November 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Paterno was aware of a crime against children and did not report it. What is wrong with you people? Put this fake SOB in jail.

      November 11, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Tony Fakhari

    If they fired JoePa, then everyone, and I mean everyone at PSU including the board should be fired! JoePa is being burned and is in the focus of the media when the media should be focusing elsewhere at the real criminals. JoePa and his family truely love PSU. Too many people are on a social media witch hunt and want to destroy a man who has done countless good than bad. As a fan of college football but not a fan of PSU this is ridiculous. Today's media is quick to burn before any real comprehensive investigation in complete.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • What?

      He was the guys supervisor that it was reported to. Joe didn't move it up the chain of command so he didn't do his job either. He was more concerned about himself and football!!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • What?

      Face it, JoePA loves himself, nobody else!

      November 10, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • frankie b

      Jo Pa needs to feel the pain of those children
      Maybe we can find some NBA players to meet him in a shower

      November 10, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  14. LeeAT

    I have never been a Penn State football fan, that's my perogative, however; I have always and will continue to respect the university itself. The university cannot be blamed for what Sandusky did, and what a few were negligent in reporting. I have no respect at all for those rioters because they are creating more problems than they are solving. I do however; have the utmost respect for those matures students who understand that this is about abused children and a low life pedophile. Mark my words, Sandusky is going to commit suicide, and leave everybody else clean up his mess. Anyone that can make light of this situation and joke about it is as sick as Sundusky.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  15. True Colors

    A TAD bit too much going on with you dude. Tone it down 150 notches!

    November 10, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
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