November 10th, 2011
12:26 PM ET

Penn State grapples with conflict over coach's firing, horrific allegations

With feelings running high on campus after the firing of Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno and the university’s president, a debate is raging about where the focus should rest in the scandal.

The Happy Valley family is dealing with raw, conflicting emotions sparked by child rape allegations that threaten to shatter the reputation of a great football coach as well as the school’s image.

The expulsions of Paterno and Penn State President Graham Spanier capped another chapter in the fallout from charges against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

On Wednesday night, the man who had been at the helm of the iconic football program for 46 seasons was greeted by cheers befitting a father figure viewed as the face of the university.

Except this was no football celebration. It was like a farewell to an era as Paterno spoke to members of the crowd, who clutched phones and waved their arms in the air.

"What can I say, I'm no longer the coach," Paterno told about 15 students gathered outside his house late Wednesday. "It's going to take some time to get used to. It's been 61 years."

The crowd chanted that they loved Paterno. Some of the students, many of whom came to Penn State because of its storied football program, apparently weren’t sure how to cope with news of the famous coach's firing and the allegations of what happened.

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But Paterno, known for being hard-nosed when it comes to education, seemed to feel he needed to temper the mood of the students, telling them to go home and get some sleep. “Study,” he said, as he peered from the walkway of his home.

Chants of “We are Penn State,” the rallying cry of the school, could be heard in the background.

In the town of State College, that phrase has taken on a new meaning Thursday. And it’s one some of the students are fighting to protect -  especially after the scene on campus quickly changed overnight: Students spilled into the streets. A news van was tipped over.

Then massive crowds swarmed the Old Main, the former administration building. Things by all accounts got out of control.

While those scenes are played over and over again on TV stations across the country, many students say they don't want those images to define them.

Hundreds may have flocked to Paterno’s home or to the grand bronze statue that towers over the campus, but they represent a small percentage of Penn State’s 35,000 undergraduate students. Some, including T.J. Bar, the student body president, said they want to change the focus of this debate from the emotions of football to the seriousness of the alleged events.

In some ways, at University Park, the campus is divided.

Some still mourn the loss of the almost godlike coach they have grown to love. Others are struggling with the heinous allegations.

The question of how the campus should move forward was at the heart of an editorial in the campus newspaper The Daily Collegian:

“Wednesday night was an embarrassment for Penn State. This is about more than Paterno and Spanier. The way students reacted set our university two steps back," the editorial said. "Penn State does not need to be put in a worse light than its leaders already have. The spotlight was on Penn State last night and we only drew more negative national attention to the Penn State name. The national media did not come for the students, but they stayed because we put on a show.

"The emotions brought on by the night varied from somber and respectful to angry and unlawful. This is not what Joe would have wanted.”

But it is what unfolded. And it’s also what students are trying to change in the wake of the scandal that rocked the campus.

“I think the emotions kind of run the gamut in terms of Joe Paterno,” Bard said. “I think a lot of students are obviously in support of Joe Paterno, but I also think a lot of students are realizing there may be more to this story than we realized. At the end of the day fundamentally what matters most is that justice is found for victims and their family and they can truly find some closure after this.”

Dave Cole, a junior studying journalism and political science at Penn State, who grew up in State College and whose parents both teach at the school told CNN’s iReport that he thinks there’s a mix of anger about how the events unfolded as well as who should be blamed.

“People I think initially are very angry at the University for firing Paterno. I think that there are a lot of people that wish that more of the blame was being levied on Sandusky right now,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of animosity toward the media and the role that the media played in framing Paterno in this. A lot of anger, sadness and frustration in students.”

Bard said many students feel the story isn’t just about saving the reputation of a mighty football program. (The financial implications of the scandal may be heavy.) It should be about the alleged victims and the investigation of what took place on the campus.

“I think a lot of students are realizing that due to the national media coverage there’s been a huge oversight of the victims and their families in all of this, and I think students are getting very, very frustrated that this is more than about a football program or a coach - this is about the victims and finding justice for them at the end of the day.”

Daniel Johnson, a 23-year-old business student who was at the rally Wednesday night, told CNN's iReport the scandal has “tarnished everything we students have come to be proud of here at Penn State.”

Johnson said he rallied at the Old Main, not just in frustration about Paterno's firing, but in support of the alleged victims and as a cry against what he fears happened to them.

“We are not responsible for the decisions made by school officials, who at the end of the day are Joe's bosses. We firmly believe that Joe would never turn a blind eye to something as sick and disturbing as this, had he known the full extent of the situation,” Johnson said. “... We pray that the victims can find a way to move on from this and find peace.”

Bard said that a candlelight vigil was planned for the alleged victims as well as a slight change to this weekend’s football game. Instead of the traditional “white-out” in which the entire student body wears white in support of the Nittany Lions, students are encouraged to participate in a “blue-out.”

An unofficial Facebook page encouraged fans to wear blue "to support the victims of child abuse worldwide. The Blue Ribbon Campaign against child abuse began 22 years ago and is recognized across the country.

“In addition to being the color of our team's home game jerseys, blue represents the color of bruises that have too often been neglected,” the post said.

Bard said he hoped this weekend’s game would be a chance to change the tide.

“It’s not about a football program; it’s not about a coach. … (It's) about moving forward,” he said. “This is a crucial point for this student body to really be able to move forward, unite together and remember the pride that really is involved in Penn State.”

That's a sentiment that Cole couldn't agree with more. He also  hopes that this moment can be turned into a major turning point for the school.

“I think that the image of this university is as low as I can ever imagine it being. I think that bouncing back from this will be difficult. I think that my first impression of the decision is that it was for cleaning house and fixing the image as soon as possible. ... I think that how we bounce back is very important,” he said. “What a few thousand students did last night unfortunately speaks out as what the whole 40,000-student body did. I think that there needs to be a way to get out the message that these actions do not speak for the whole body.

"The nation and the media need to see Penn State not as a violent student body, but as a minority of the students who did it out of anger and that was not the way to demonstrate that.”

soundoff (1,613 Responses)
  1. JohnH

    The whole football staff knew about it! Cancel the last two games! Oh.......that that would cost Penn State almighty dollars!
    Then shut the football program down for 5 years maybe that will teach the other 30 or so semi-pro top FBS programs to put people/education/morals ahead of dollar bills. The entire system should come under indictment.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  2. T Bailey

    "......we hope the victims and their families can truly find closure after this".....CLOSURE???!!!!!! How on earth, does a person who is so horrendously victimized as a child in this matter EVER find closure??!!! In my mind, and I can only say in my mind because I cannot begin to know what a person goes thru having experienced this, there could never be closure. Only years of therapy, counseling, and hopefully finding a good solid support system in life!! Closure??, there is no closure!! But I do know there is a God, and Mr. Sandusky will face Him one day. Good luck with that.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  3. AngryWhiteMan

    Kids have been getting molested by priests for decades and the Catholic church (including the Pope(s)) have done everything they could to cover it up. You don't see the bible thumpers having a protest at the Vatican do you ? Should we fire the Pope ? Paterno was told about the allegation and told his superior, he doesn't have the legal power to launch a criminal investigation except by doing what he did and that is tell his boss. The only person(s) that should be fired are the ones the heard the allegations from Paterno and took no action.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • NorthropP61

      It wasn't Paterno's responsibilty "to launch a criminal investigagion" BUT it was his responsibility (as it would be yours in the same situation) to call the police. Some people's reaction – includiing the State Penn students – reminds me of the church protecting pedophile priests. People in charge were more concerned with reputation than traumatized children.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • frankie b

      u b a very stupid angry white man– momma and daddy must have been siblings

      November 10, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Typical Penn State Moron

    WHO CARES! It's just about some dumb kids, let's go win some FOOTBALL GAMES!

    November 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Shadow

    I posted this elsewhere, but I'll copy & paste here to say my piece: If he had acted decisively when it was brought to his attention, there would have been no harm to PennState's reputation. They would have just been seen as finding a child abuser and getting rid of him, and the program would have gone on just fine. But, instead, they chose to sweep it under the table. Coverups DO harm your reputation, and that's what has happened, now.

    Paterno requires the utmost dedication and effort from his players. Grades of C are not good enough. He expects 200% from them in every aspect of their lives. Hypocritically, the most famous college football coach in the nation did not give 200% to the effort of investigating an allegation against his own staff member that threatened the safety of the very children that he cared so much about

    November 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  6. leader247

    Let's see if these students feel the same when it's their kids molested. Every person involved should receive prison justice. Joe got off easy. Weak leadership from a weak and selfish person.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cove

      Gee I guess people are guilty with out facts. How many times have you drove past an accident and not stopped ot help, or seen someone stuck on the side of the road and not offered to help.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • coronaboy

      You want scapegoats, here's one: Why did the Attorney general and the Grand Jury take so long to do anything while this pervert was on the street? It was years before they made a move. Why not blame them as well?

      November 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • NorthropP61

      Cove – Not reporting child molestation to the police is hardly the same as not offering to do engine repair at the side of a highway. Interesting that you're willing to stand up for enablers instead of traumatized children....

      November 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • frankie b

      let's hope these Penn State students never have kids- they are immoral idiots

      November 10, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  7. PennState Alum

    I'm not 100% about whether this is true or not but isn't McQueary's father a physician? So, if this is true, McQueary told his father and they both went to Paterno. But aren't physicians mandated by state law to report child abuse? This thing, as if it hasn't already, is going to keep burning out of control.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • frankie b

      That is the tip of the iceburg
      I know a doctor that worked in the hospital there and was told to keep his son away from Sandusky- he was a KNOWN pedophile in the medical community!!!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
  8. one71721

    UNBELIEVABLE....McQueary is still on staff. He's coaching in saturday's game against Nebraska.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  9. JD

    I can't believe ANY students are supporting Joe Pa. That seems to be the end of any shred of dignity left for PSU. Why do universities think they are above the law? Why would anyone report such a serious crime to their boss and not the police? This seems unthinkable. You know many, many people knew about this yet none wondered why the place wasn't crawling with investigators. They had to know this was being swept under the rug. I would be surprised if everyone closely associated with the football team and athletics hadn't at least heard rumors – they all should go if PSU really wants to come clean.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Jack C

    Typical university behavior. Talk the good talk but fail to adhere to it. Where is the morale outrage? Who cares about a "legendary coach" when so many innocent people have been hurt. I can't believe Penn State students are rioting over an idiot coach when they should be questioning the university's moral compass (which is obviously broke). It was all about the money and the reputation of the program and coach. Penn State gets an F in cognitive thinking. Students, find another school!

    November 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  11. J Strummer

    The indignation coming from PSU concerning the riots is laughable.


    The only Big 10 schools I wouldn't expect to riot are Northwestern and now Nebraska.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Mike

    How hypocritical of us. There are crimes each and everyday and we most often turn and look the other way. Then when something like this happens, we act all pious and righteous, sacrificing and innocent man (Paterno). What about all the kids that go missing? What about the homeless guy who get assaulted teenagers? What about the housewife who is beaten by her husband? What about the people who lose their entire bank accounts to hackers? We see all of this every day and... walk away, feeling comfortably removed. We are a nation of hypocrites.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Mr.Russo

    At Penn State, football is more important than children. SICK.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jimbo

    Picture 1, see the kid in gas mask? Picture 2, see the kid in gas mask on the ground? Hahaha, guess that didn't really work out for you moron. He should move to Oakland.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
  15. NorthropP61

    Penn State or State Penn? Interesting that the students seem to have absorbed the lesson that their school exemplified: Blame everyone except the men who caused or covered up the problem. Football's more important than the young victims. More important than responsibility or truth.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
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