November 10th, 2011
12:26 PM ET

Penn State grapples with conflict over coach's firing, horrific allegations

With feelings running high on campus after the firing of Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno and the university’s president, a debate is raging about where the focus should rest in the scandal.

The Happy Valley family is dealing with raw, conflicting emotions sparked by child rape allegations that threaten to shatter the reputation of a great football coach as well as the school’s image.

The expulsions of Paterno and Penn State President Graham Spanier capped another chapter in the fallout from charges against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

On Wednesday night, the man who had been at the helm of the iconic football program for 46 seasons was greeted by cheers befitting a father figure viewed as the face of the university.

Except this was no football celebration. It was like a farewell to an era as Paterno spoke to members of the crowd, who clutched phones and waved their arms in the air.

"What can I say, I'm no longer the coach," Paterno told about 15 students gathered outside his house late Wednesday. "It's going to take some time to get used to. It's been 61 years."

The crowd chanted that they loved Paterno. Some of the students, many of whom came to Penn State because of its storied football program, apparently weren’t sure how to cope with news of the famous coach's firing and the allegations of what happened.

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But Paterno, known for being hard-nosed when it comes to education, seemed to feel he needed to temper the mood of the students, telling them to go home and get some sleep. “Study,” he said, as he peered from the walkway of his home.

Chants of “We are Penn State,” the rallying cry of the school, could be heard in the background.

In the town of State College, that phrase has taken on a new meaning Thursday. And it’s one some of the students are fighting to protect -  especially after the scene on campus quickly changed overnight: Students spilled into the streets. A news van was tipped over.

Then massive crowds swarmed the Old Main, the former administration building. Things by all accounts got out of control.

While those scenes are played over and over again on TV stations across the country, many students say they don't want those images to define them.

Hundreds may have flocked to Paterno’s home or to the grand bronze statue that towers over the campus, but they represent a small percentage of Penn State’s 35,000 undergraduate students. Some, including T.J. Bar, the student body president, said they want to change the focus of this debate from the emotions of football to the seriousness of the alleged events.

In some ways, at University Park, the campus is divided.

Some still mourn the loss of the almost godlike coach they have grown to love. Others are struggling with the heinous allegations.

The question of how the campus should move forward was at the heart of an editorial in the campus newspaper The Daily Collegian:

“Wednesday night was an embarrassment for Penn State. This is about more than Paterno and Spanier. The way students reacted set our university two steps back," the editorial said. "Penn State does not need to be put in a worse light than its leaders already have. The spotlight was on Penn State last night and we only drew more negative national attention to the Penn State name. The national media did not come for the students, but they stayed because we put on a show.

"The emotions brought on by the night varied from somber and respectful to angry and unlawful. This is not what Joe would have wanted.”

But it is what unfolded. And it’s also what students are trying to change in the wake of the scandal that rocked the campus.

“I think the emotions kind of run the gamut in terms of Joe Paterno,” Bard said. “I think a lot of students are obviously in support of Joe Paterno, but I also think a lot of students are realizing there may be more to this story than we realized. At the end of the day fundamentally what matters most is that justice is found for victims and their family and they can truly find some closure after this.”

Dave Cole, a junior studying journalism and political science at Penn State, who grew up in State College and whose parents both teach at the school told CNN’s iReport that he thinks there’s a mix of anger about how the events unfolded as well as who should be blamed.

“People I think initially are very angry at the University for firing Paterno. I think that there are a lot of people that wish that more of the blame was being levied on Sandusky right now,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of animosity toward the media and the role that the media played in framing Paterno in this. A lot of anger, sadness and frustration in students.”

Bard said many students feel the story isn’t just about saving the reputation of a mighty football program. (The financial implications of the scandal may be heavy.) It should be about the alleged victims and the investigation of what took place on the campus.

“I think a lot of students are realizing that due to the national media coverage there’s been a huge oversight of the victims and their families in all of this, and I think students are getting very, very frustrated that this is more than about a football program or a coach - this is about the victims and finding justice for them at the end of the day.”

Daniel Johnson, a 23-year-old business student who was at the rally Wednesday night, told CNN's iReport the scandal has “tarnished everything we students have come to be proud of here at Penn State.”

Johnson said he rallied at the Old Main, not just in frustration about Paterno's firing, but in support of the alleged victims and as a cry against what he fears happened to them.

“We are not responsible for the decisions made by school officials, who at the end of the day are Joe's bosses. We firmly believe that Joe would never turn a blind eye to something as sick and disturbing as this, had he known the full extent of the situation,” Johnson said. “... We pray that the victims can find a way to move on from this and find peace.”

Bard said that a candlelight vigil was planned for the alleged victims as well as a slight change to this weekend’s football game. Instead of the traditional “white-out” in which the entire student body wears white in support of the Nittany Lions, students are encouraged to participate in a “blue-out.”

An unofficial Facebook page encouraged fans to wear blue "to support the victims of child abuse worldwide. The Blue Ribbon Campaign against child abuse began 22 years ago and is recognized across the country.

“In addition to being the color of our team's home game jerseys, blue represents the color of bruises that have too often been neglected,” the post said.

Bard said he hoped this weekend’s game would be a chance to change the tide.

“It’s not about a football program; it’s not about a coach. … (It's) about moving forward,” he said. “This is a crucial point for this student body to really be able to move forward, unite together and remember the pride that really is involved in Penn State.”

That's a sentiment that Cole couldn't agree with more. He also  hopes that this moment can be turned into a major turning point for the school.

“I think that the image of this university is as low as I can ever imagine it being. I think that bouncing back from this will be difficult. I think that my first impression of the decision is that it was for cleaning house and fixing the image as soon as possible. ... I think that how we bounce back is very important,” he said. “What a few thousand students did last night unfortunately speaks out as what the whole 40,000-student body did. I think that there needs to be a way to get out the message that these actions do not speak for the whole body.

"The nation and the media need to see Penn State not as a violent student body, but as a minority of the students who did it out of anger and that was not the way to demonstrate that.”

soundoff (1,613 Responses)
  1. General Specific

    They recently took cassette out of the dictionary. Is due process in there too? If so, take it out as well. It is as antiquated as the venerable cassette.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • dean

      Cassette is still in the dictionary.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Franklin

    It would not be too hard to change the name to STATE PENN

    November 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
  3. MadCityBabe

    boy this is an icky I bet he's thinking....."in hindsight I should have called the police"......

    November 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
  4. frankie b

    The situation is getting worse
    Bradley knew about Sandusky
    Even doctors at the hospital knew Sandusky was a pedophile.
    I have an associate that was told when he moved to University Park 9 years ago that he should never let Sandusky near his son.

    McQueary should not be allowed to coach Saturday or any day for that fact– he is an immoral idiot.
    Now the student riot!

    Penn State looks like a pool of immorals
    Time to shut down the alumni sites- too embarrassing.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Jerry Sandusky

    These foolish students should be more worried about the fact that there won't be any jobs for them when they graduate, and less worried about who coaches their stupid football team. paterno should've retired a long time ago – an 84 yr old who coaches from the booth? Gimme a break.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Realist

    As long as football is more important than a child's rear end, will these evils exist on earth.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Whome

    Clean house from top to bottom, trusties included, law enforcement, (or should I say lack of law enforcement), personal. No wonder tuition is so high a lot of people mush have been paid off to look the other way.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Coco

    Excellent response well said Susan. Thank you.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Bill

    Madoff looks like a saint compared to the number of people who have wasted money in the so-called blue and white club. Multiply that number over the years and the bogus system it supported. You were all duped while people lined their pockets. Sports over ethics and the law; now that is sad

    November 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • fairshare2

      Exactly my thoughts Bill!. What kind of message are these people trying to send out here, sports is more important than these children's innocence that was stolen? Our society is full of immorals, and as a parent myself, I find it extremely difficult trying to comprehend how these sick individuals even thought of protesting about such a shameful act. My heart goes out to the victims and their families!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. frankie b

    truth is hard for cnn gays to accept

    November 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Stacy

    I don't want my federal tax money supporting these paedophiles on University campuses.. I'm writing my congressman to cut your funding this instant you evil evil pieces of garbage.. Go back to your bath houses and die of AIDS

    November 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • moe smith

      Learn to spell, you twit.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • EmmVeePee

      Go ahead and write your congressman. He receives pieces of mail from illiterate crazies on a daily basis.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seriously?

      Must Be MidWestern Trash jumping on the Hate Bandwagon!

      November 10, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Stacy


    November 10, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Stacy

    I bet he is a catholic too.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anna

      What an ignorant remark.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jen King


    November 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Vince

    It doesn't really matter what any of the students think. The opinion of the people who pay the tuition means a lot more.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
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