November 19th, 2011
06:22 PM ET

Teens charged in death of retired NFL player's son

Four southern California teenagers have been charged following the apparent drug overdose death of an 18-year-old high school quarterback whose father is a retired NFL player, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said Saturday.

Three of the teens have been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Griffen Kramer, son of former pro quarterback Erik Kramer, who played for several NFL teams including the Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions, officials said.

Griffen Kramer played quarterback at Thousand Oaks High School, which lists him as a 6-foot 210-pound senior.

Kramer was found dead October 30 in a friend's bedroom in Agoura Hills, the sheriff's office said in a statement.

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  1. Mmmmm

    I thought a 18 year old is considered an adult. How can someone else be held accountable for his drug consumption?

    November 19, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff Frank ( R - OHIO ) "Яight Wing Иutcase"

      How can someone else be held accountable for his drug consumption?
      Mmmmm, good question indeed, considering the age of emancipation in the State of California "is' 18. My first impression of this, is the information CNN doesn't furnish. Possibility exists, the 18 year was "forced" to take the drugs "under duress".

      November 19, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mmmmm

      Lol....right, you and the DA need to go have a few drinks and figure that one out?

      November 19, 2011 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
  2. chrissy

    now thats a good question, unless of course, they are charging drug dealers! didnt know they started that practice but if thats the case its a good idea!

    November 19, 2011 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
  3. banasy©

    My condolences to Erik Kramer and his family on the death of their beloved son.

    November 19, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
  4. chrissy

    if memory serves me i believe he got that trait from his father! if kids see it they do it!

    November 19, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
  5. **cosmicvox*

    Unless they 'slipped him a Mickey', I fail to see why they should be held responsible.

    November 19, 2011 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
  6. banasy©

    Hopefully, there will be more news forthcoming...

    November 19, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
  7. banasy©

    Ok, this is what I read:
    Kramer and some other teens, (who dealt) went to some place where Kramer injected himself, falling immediately ill, then unconscious. They then dragged him back to one of the guys' house, where he remained unconscious. Apparently he died sometime during the night. They are charging them with involuntary manslaughter for not getting him treatment while he was still alive.

    November 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
  8. bigwilliestyles

    @ Banasy: based on what you posted, that is probably the reason that they were charged; some form of negligence.

    November 19, 2011 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
  9. chrissy

    ok then that sounds more like VOLUNTARY dont it? And they need to prosecute em to the fullest extent of the law!

    November 19, 2011 at 10:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. bobcat (in a hat)

    Couldn't this fall under the heading of negligent homicide ?

    November 19, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
  11. banasy©

    @chrissy:
    I don't think they meant for him to die; hence the involuntary part.

    November 19, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
  12. banasy©

    @bc(iah)
    I would think so, but then I don't know Cali law.

    November 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
  13. banasy©

    @bigwilliestyles:
    I went to another web site; Lord knows we wouldn't get the story *here*!

    November 19, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
  14. **cosmicvox *

    Of course the tendency is that one does not think so rationally while one is on drugs. The responsibility for this fatal dose must lie with the guy that stuck it into his own arm. The others may not even have known their own names while on this stuff let alone make life and death decisions.

    November 20, 2011 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
  15. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    The guy who took the drugs was responsible for his own death, unless the others forced him to use the drugs...maybe to celebrate his birthday, I don't know.
    If I were responsible for prosecuting the others, I'd want to make the consequences as bad as possible, hoping that it would be a low enough bottom to stop their own use of drugs.
    I'm waiting for a youth advocate to suggest that it may have been the young persons' first experiment with drugs, making them victims of some bad old dealer (who needs a lawyer).

    November 20, 2011 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
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