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Occupy targets retailers on Black Friday
The Occupy movement is taking on the biggest retail day of the season, calling on protesters to occupy major retailers on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving.
"OCCUPY BLACK FRIDAY by occupying/boycotting large chain stores and publicly traded retail" is the message posted on the website stopblackfriday.com.
The movement contends that 1% of the country is making money at the expense of the other 99%.
"The credit cards the 99% overcharge will allow the 1% to enrich themselves gluttonously on the backs of hardworking people who simply want to provide a memorable time for their families," the website says.
"So just imagine what would happen to the 1% if the 99% did not spend on Black Friday."
The site asks protesters to target only "publicly traded large businesses" and support small businesses "that serve our local communities."
The site lists Abercrombie & Fitch, Amazon.com, AT&T Wireless, Burlington Coat Factory, Dick's Sporting Goods, Dollar Tree, The Home Depot, Neiman Marcus, Office Max, Toys "R" Us, Verizon Wireless and Wal-Mart as businesses that should be boycotted or occupied.
"We are NOT anti-capitalist, just anti-crapitalist," the site says.
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maybe "occupy" should focus efforts on the enablers of the system they despise? Example being the person who has a pocket full of maxed out credit cards that he or she is paying 19-30 percent interest on. If there was more fiscal responsibility in the general public, these credit card companies that occupy believes are the root of all evil would not make the profits that they do.
Instead of swatting flies why not get rid of the manure pile?
Seems logical to me.
when it becomes legal to shoot congressman, banker, lawyer or cop then we'll have the correct target, so until then we will have to settle for nibbling around the edges of their profits
Not a real big fan of OWS, but I find it ironic that so many think that protesting against the big stores who sell mostly goods made in China is somehow "un-American".
PETER – protesting against a store and physically blocking my access are different things. OWS has a philosophy and they are trying to FORCE me to adopt it.
I have ONE credit card and I pay the balance off every month. I was taught fiscal responsibility, dedication, and good work ethic from my parents. I didnt take a mortgage I couldnt afford, I dont max out my debt, I have a good job I worked hard to get with benefits. You have a good point and OWS is a waste of my time.
Punkass for President!
We the 99% hire the cops to maintain order, so go ahead and protest against the rich bankers, but leave the cops alone. Every one of you who complain about cops ought to tell them what a bunch of worthless losers they are the next time they respond to a robbery at your home or you get mugged on the street.
3 cheers for punkass. That is what I call areal American.
If a protestor tries to stop me from doing anything I will knock their teeth out. Enough is enough. You made your point. Now you smell and your movement is counterproductive. I hope the police use real bullets instead of pepper spray next time.
Dr. FrankenstEEn put your brain in a dug up body and we all know how that worked out.
yeah. I'm sure you will assault someone. Maybe you will on the internet, but not at the store.
Try me Barney. You wouldn't be the first guy who didn't get to finish his sentence before they woke up with no teeth. When they started harassing kids trying to get to school, their movement became counterproductive. I like the feeling of a nose breaking against my knuckles.
Yes, Abby... nothing like going holiday shopping and ending up in jail with an assault charge. Yes, how dare anyone even slightly annoy you... anyone who does should die at the hands of police. Thats a completely sane worldview.
I agree totally. This is getting rediculous, they have lost touch with reality and need stopped!
your just a train wreck waiting to happen Abby?! I understand you have stockholm syndrome.
"I hope the police use real bullets". Listen to you.
As is evidenced by the responses from 'supporters' of OWS, their horrific grammar could be one reason they are not excelling in life. Yes, blame society because your mommy and daddy promised you life would be easy and you would all get out of college making 6-figures. Then you realized it doesn't work that way! Welcome to the real world....must have been nice living attached to your mother's umbilical cord way beyond when you should have.
Response to drc: Many protesters are recently laid off workers. Sorry to throw a wrench in your cartoon stereotypes.
Peter
Response to drc: Many protesters are recently laid off workers. Sorry to throw a wrench in your cartoon stereotypes.
Well Peter, sorry to throw a wrench in your fantasy land, GET A NEW JOB. Oh wait, they want to make more money than they are worth. Sorry, if you need to take minimum wage job, THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. Please don't speak for me, I made minimum wage out of college many years ago and blamed NO ONE.
Quite simply, if you have skills you have a job....if your skill is manufacturing then guess what, maybe you need a new skill. There are programs and community colleges to learn new skills for LITTLE MONEY. Once comes out to work in healthcare, be an electrician or whatever. What one does not do is whine about how a job in an industry that is never coming back.
There is no guaranteed that one's job or skill won't go away, so perhaps one should continue to learn new skills. Oh wait, no go back for a Masters in mythology so you can specialize in Greek Gods, that will get you far in life.
Sorry, certain jobs/careers are not coming back....in life you should plan for such things. People learn from failing...they pick themselves up, learn a new skill and move on. But in your world they whine and complain and blame everyone else.
I look forward to reading about OWSers getting beaten and shot for harassing people.
I'd love to see that, and if I do I won't snitch on you.
Your Ugly wish for Death of American Patriots is a disgrace, and it would only give the movement the largest shot in the arm and get more Americans standing up for Humanity and the injustices by 1% of the population. There are MORE OF US then YOU.
I got laid at an occupy movement. I think her name was Abby. She did like it rough.
OWS does not get it. The public is not going to be as nice to you as the cops were. People are sick of you creeps.
This entire movement has lost all credibilty with the general public. morons.
News flash, if you watch Fox News and think you're part of the general public... you aren't.
"General" is like saying "common" and yes it takes a higher sense of being to understand the world you are use to is not real. you have stockholm syndrome and its VERY GENERAL.
have you talked to the General Public lately? or that's just you and your buddy on the couch?
LOL @ langkard. You really think that Fox news is your enemy? You are so delusional you believe Fox news is non factual? You liberals are insane, and sorry, more ppl watch and read Fox news than any other network so maybe it is YOU who are not apart of the concensus. I know it may not seem that way sense the liberal media which is everyone other than Fox tells you what to do because you are a liberal lemming. The OWS is pathetic, most everyday ppl think that but hey, good luck with your delusion 😉
@Punkass – you just confirmed this study: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
Who do you think works at these retail stores? The 99%. When retailers don't make money, they lay off their employees, their suppliers, their vendors, etc. In other words, the 99%. OWS- do you realize you're only hurting yourselves (or those you claim to represent)?
They're just hurting the people they claim to support. They won't feel the effects since they spend their time camping in a park instead of working like the other 99%
LOLZ, Frank. Newsflash: It's false that 99% of Americans are working. That's the problem. I know it's easy to spit out the "get a job" line (conservatives rely on those easy Fox News talking points), but consider the practicality of that in this economy.
Kim, who do you think large corporate retailers are exploiting in the first place? Do you think their profits go towards pay and benefits for workers... or for extra pay and bonuses for already well paid executives?
josh, as someone who has worked in such a retail store... i can tell you that profits go first and foremost toward hiring new employees. When the demand for product is there, more employees are hired to keep up. Likewise, employees who are around for 6+ months get pay raises AND bonuses for referring new employees. Mind you this isn't at the corporate level, I was a sales associate (aka cashier). So yes. Occupying such stores is totally counter productive and makes you out to be the bad guys.
Boy, all you liberals seem to LOVE talking about Fox News LOL. All the damn time, Fox this and Fox that blah blah blah. Most of you ahve never watched Fox or you wouldnt be commenting how biased, racist, or out of touch they are. You all claim they do the bidding of the Repubs yet most employed by Fox are registered Independant!! You spin your lies then insult ppl for watching as if somehow CNN, HLN, MSNBC arent biased and slanted to the left....idiots
So we should give in to corporate greed and become mindless slave to the machine like you? Nice logic.
If people take the same money they'd spend at retail chains and go to small businesses with it instead, sure, the big chains would lay off, but the small businesses could hire people.
90% of Americans are working, and of those, a very solid majority are working full time and doing just fine. My employer was hiring steadily for the past few years and we had a heck of a time finding qualified candidates, just finally got all the positions filled in my department. There ARE jobs out there, yeah you might have to start out with a relatively low paying contract position but if you do a good job and express interest, we can usually hire you fulltime after a year or so.
You guys just don't get it. If you hurt the retailers, then you are hurting the economy and potentially putting the country in further peril and perhaps creating a situation where more people in the 99% will lose their jobs. If you want to really occupy something, than occupy Washington DC, as protesting directly to your politicians makes a lot more sense, as they are the ones that change laws and enact reforms that you seem to be looking for. Your message is so unclear, i am not sure that your movement really knows what it wants or how to get it. To just think you want more of the pie from the rich seems odd to me, as many of these people create jobs, as many small business owners make a good living and collectively employ a good portion of this country. Take from them and they will fire people or figure other ways to cut back, like stopping to spend their money in the economy. The more money people spend, the more likely we are to have recovery. The less spent, the less jobs created and the worse we spiral down. Perhaps what the Occupy Wall Streeters need is a lesson in basic economics and how our electorate works.
YOU ARE RIGHT, THEY DON'T GET IT.
Now that it might impact the 1% your even more scared and angry of people who have nothing to loose.
OWS is not as much fun as burning your draft card.
Yes please, please, don't shop on Friday. That way all the hard working people busting their asses can't pay the bills. It's all ready hard enough being a college student working full time at a retailer, I don't need you idiots trying to make my life that much harder. Go occupy a classroom and get an education, then maybe you can think up a protesting method that is worth a damn and will make a difference.
You should get a refund on your education. You obviously didn't learn much in history class. The Occupy movement is utilizing tactics that do work, proven when a tiny man from India began a movement which kicked one of the world's largest colonial superpowers out of his country. Tactics which have the banking industry so worried that a banking lobbying group offered, in a leaked email to the major banking firms, to dig up dirt on the Occupy leaders (not getting that they have no leaders). Tactics effective enough that authorities feel the need to pepper hose non-violent protestors who present no threat (a blatant violation of a 1980's Supreme Court ruling on police use of force, which is just going to end up paying for those students' entire educations and their childrens'). You'd know that, but you were probably too busy at a kegger to absorb the information.
Drexel, you got punked. Please don't neglect to enroll in further English classes during your time at the university so that you can improve your mechanics.
Well, Drexel.. do you think you are going to see any of those huge holiday profits other than the near poverty wages you are making now? Wait till you start paying back those student loans and try to get a real job after college.. then you will see why OWS is here.
Langkard: The tactics may work, however the reasoning behind those tactics is flawed and most of these people have no idea what they are protesting.:
At least someone said it. Good job Drexel, when all these bleeding heart socialists are wondering why they are broke and jobless, you and I will be laughing. Education and hard work, that is still the way. That will get you where you are going while the OWS fools still look for a cause. Morons.
Agreed Drexel
Feel pretty strongly about not buying a Snuggy, I see.
History repeats itself with mass ignorance. What happens when the publicly traded companies can't sell their products? They cut jobs. Who does the majority of the 99% work for? Not all ideas are great and just because the masses believe in it doesn't mean it is good for you...
Sorry all ideas are great, maybe too you its not, but we have to stall the machine first and yes it will be very unpleasant, better have a sustainable farm because the Congress has sold you out to Wall street by repealing the 1907 Bucket laws and that led to the Great Depression, NOW the OWS didn't do that.
hmmmm, thinklessdomore? sounds like the president of our country...we elected obama to lead, all he's been doing is traveling around in his 747 jet...i bet he's a 1%!
Got news for ya:
Obama is not the first President to fly around the country
Obama is not the first President to use a teleprompter
Obama is not the first President to play politics
Where have you been all these years?
Criticize the president if you think he's doing a bad job, but at least make reasonable arguments. Should he not meet with leaders of other countries? Do you propose skype world summits?
So what about the investors who control Wall St? People who talk about Wall St as if they are some mastermind of Illuminati or the mastermind of American greed are idiots. It's the investors that invest minimum $15 million that control all this. It's them you should protest, not those that WORK in Wall St... because besides the CEO's and the superiors, everyone else gets paid a reasonable salary.
most economists will disagree with you.
This Farmer agrees. Maybe its time we all became unemployed. Maybe its time to OCCUPY AMERICA!
Nationwide one day walk out in solidarity.
All y'all hippies best no be blocking the Walmart in E. Little Rock, 'cause I'M GETTING THAT TV, fools!
You, sir, are an idiot
And yet when they see in increase in profits they don't increase the pay of workers... they increase the pay of already over-payed executives. Thats part of the point of OWS. We take the hit when profits go down, they reap the rewards when profits go up. When profits go down, their pay doesn't, not even their bonuses. When profits go up we don't see any increase in our pay or benefits because it is soaked up by the overpayed at the top. I'm not saying they should be made poor and we should be made wealthy. I'm saying pay should be a bit more equitable to the point where they don't get all the benefit and we don't get all the detriment.
So then the 'worker' is free to get a new job where he/she feels they are valued more. NO one owes you anything but compensation you are worth based on skills and supply/demand. The day of staying with a company for one's life is OVER and it has been for quite some time. My generation has job-hopped because yes the 'cost-of-living' increases in pay are just that, yet marketed as a pay raise. YET, my entire generation has job-hopped to get ahead, getting their raises that way. If you want to sit in some company and 'expect' them to pay you something they never will, that is YOUR problem. Welcome to reality, leave that job for another and learn new skills, then move on.
Funny, I started out making $5.50/hour out of college and now make well over 6-figures and I never blamed anyone for starting at the bottom. If I did not like what I was getting paid, I got a new job. I learned other skills on the side and always was willing to work 2 jobs if necessary. I paid off all my college loans (early) and adjusted for inflation were the same as you are all whining about today. I graduated in a recession (thus my $5.50/hour job out of college).
SO STOP WHINING about life....the only thing MOST of America will agree with you on is that WASHINGTON is the problem. BOTH parties are corrupt and rotten to the core and yet you won't all pack up and PROTEST (peacefully) in DC where you should all be, to send a message to Washington. Trust me, Obama does not support you, he is using you to get your vote.
Amen
You still don't get it.
Well said! 🙂
The irony is that you can move up within retail without any formal or high school education to making a six figure job, if you put the hard work in.
Get serious! The OWS supports that are commenting on this article can't even put a coherent sentence together...sans spelling mistakes. All the hard working and educated people see that you are a bunch of homeless idiots (otherwise you would have a full time job and wouldn't have time to sit out in the street and protest). What you are pushing for is communism! That hasn't worked out so well for all the communist countries, if you haven't noticied. How about you start occupying a job or occupying a classroom...grow up and get real!
i couldnt agree with you more my friend. you see it clearly. many dont
well said sir
thats not even true. 1. profits in most retail has been the same or worse over the last 4 years. 2. pay for employees does NOT go down when profits fall, in fact i got a raise 6 months into my previous job at a major (and publicly traded) retail store last year. 3. profits are spent on HIRING more people. there is a MINIMUM amount of money managers are expected to spend on payroll for such stores, so when business is booming, those #s go up.
Then start your own company. No one owes you a job.
You obviously have no clue how the free market works, dunderhead. If a company doesn't pay its workers well enough when profits go up, guess what? THEY LEAVE TO GO TO WORK FOR OTHER CONPANIES WHO WILL!!!!
The collective childishness and stupidity of you "Occupy" fruitcakes is laughable. You're a joke to 95% of the country. What you call a "movement" is nothing but isolated little clusters of a few dozen professional malcontents sprinkled here and there who don't have the foggiest notion of how the real world works. You're nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats.
What you clowns are advocating has been tried once before and it failed miserably. It's called communism.
Good point. This "Black Friday" is getting out of hand. Now the 99% have to come to work on Thanksgiving Day and work all night. All to sell crap that is designed to go from manufacturer to landfill as quickly as possible so we can do it again next year. I'm going to go for a run in the morning and then watch football. I do my Christmas shopping in July. My kids will enjoy their holidays and not forget what its really about. Black Friday is for morons. The 99% have to realize that the 1% are what we make them. Quit being a gluttonous consumer. Go outside and do something fun instead of buying a bunch of crap.
Or, maybe when a retail shop does good business, it takes that money, opens another store, hires a few dozen more people?
Two things I took out of my high school economics classes years ago: if you have a job where you can one day be replaced by a robot, don't be suprised when it happens, and if you have a job that takes no particular skills, don't expect much over minimum wage. Both apply to retail.
> And yet when they see in increase in profits they don't increase the pay of workers... they increase the pay of already over-payed executives.
Wrong. Bad business decision. Good business would put $$$ into expanding business.
My problem with your rationale is that you entered into an employeement agreement to do job x for this much $$. It is the owners and executives perogative to reinvest, raise salaries, give bonuses, etc as they see fit. It's their money not yours. I've found that by doing my best for Job x i get more $$, conversely by whining about the execs getting bonus when I don't get a raise still results in me not getting a raise. Grow up. You get nothing for free...you want wealth...build it. You want more money work harder to improve your value to them. Otherwise go back to your little campfire and whine some more.
You are missing two underlying principles in our economy: 1 if you don't like something that a company does, DON'T WORK OR SHOP THERE!!! If enough people agree with you, they will change or go out of business. 2 Prices of goods/services and employment are set by the market. Not based on profits or losses. If a company doesnt pay well enough, people wont work there.
Final Point: If the 99% dont want to make the so called 1% rich then they have to stop buying crap they cant afford. If you use credit cards and spend outside of your means YOU WILL NEVER BE WEALTHY. Businesses sell what people want to buy, simple as that. No big conspiracy. If people wanted super healthy food from McDonalds....guess what McDonalds would sell????
CONSUMERISM wins economic wars..We are the silent enemy we have the WMD in our pocket books we can make wealth where we put our buck. Pay cash and keep what you can and buy less and live within your means. Shop at farmers markets and buy American made.
When profits go up, the shareholders get more money. THAT is the point of any business. As an employee, try buying the stock in your company, or taking advantage of every ESPP, 401k match, etc that you can. You can make out even better than a regular investor with the discounts.
Quit being so close minded to think that a business exists for the purpose of employing people. Businesses exist to make a profit for the owner. Weather that is one owner, or 1 million owners.
Not so. I have seen good employees hire on at other companies when this happens. They eventually raise the wage rates to attact good employees, which is why the other companies were able to hire the good employees away, they need good employees, highly skilled and able to do the work, so they'll pay for it. If you have no training, no drive, and are willing to work the job a monkey could be trained to do, expect the wages might get... a banana and some music to dance to.
7.50 an hour is not a job, and that's what retail employees make.
It's a JOB, not a career...it's for people who have no education or skills or just want to make extra money...
Oh excuse me Missy Moneybags, let me guess, you are a Union stooge that fully believes you deserve 30$ an hour for scratching your ass and getting fatter.
You destroyed America. Congrats
So why not get an education and look for a better job?
It's better than the couple dollars an hour (if that) foreign laborers make to keep the stores stocked. And this, I suppose, is better than no income at all.
$7.50/hour is more than you're making sitting on your backside at Starbucks, putting fruffy little coffee drinks on your mom's credit card while you whine about how unfair everything is.
So, study hard and get a job making more than that. Nobody owes you anything.
Drew – $7.50 an hour isnt a job? Im pretty sure id rather be making $7.50 then $0.
Im also pretty sure id rather have these people making $7.50 an hour instead of sitting on their asses in a park collecting unemployment.
Just because you "think" you deserve to make a lot of money doesn't mean you are qualified to make it.
$7.50 an hour isnt a job? Im pretty sure id rather be making $7.50 then $0.
Im also pretty sure id rather have these people making $7.50 an hour instead of sitting on their asses in a park collecting unemployment.
Just because you "think" you deserve to make a lot of money doesn't mean you are qualified to make it.
Seasonal help makes minimum usually.
Regular employees do better in most retail establishments.
At least they are trying to do something instead of asking for handouts.
It's a job if the employee does the work in a satisfactory manner and they are timely paid. Can they live on that? Of course they can. Maybe not the way they want, but in America the "poor" drive!
They don't have a revenue problem, they have a spending priority problem.
In 1960 I held a minimum wage job that paid $1.00 an hour. Found an old three-story firetrap victorian house in a university neighborhood where the elderly owner rented rooms with sleeping porch, gas hotplate and fridge, utilities paid, with shared bath for $25/mo.
Buying a car for $300/mo. payments left me a bit over $5/wk. for food. Canned spaghetti cost 19 cents a can then.
First week I miscalculated...last two days all that was left was a jar of mayo and bread. So I had mayo sandwiches. No problem thereafter.
Did I like it? No. Did I learn from the experience? You bet. Did it hurt me? That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
So in 1960 you made $1.00/hr (40 hrs/wk making $1.00/hr = $40/wk =$160/mnth) and you had a $300/mnth car payment? That must have been one HELL of a car to be paying that much in 1960! Plus, you had all those other expenses? My math, unless you tell me you worked 80 hours a week, doesn't quite add up. I suspect you are lying.
You missed on this one. Some retail employees are on a commission plan that could lower their earnings to below the minimum wage if they fail to push more goods into the sacks of customers. Retailers are going to push for 24/7 just like many fast food restaurants. Employees are nothing more than floor stock monitors to retail executives.
It is a job and a means to support their families. That is what the OWS idiots don't understand. They need those jobs and OWS idiots think they should not have to work. They (you) do not represent the 99%. I am a working man, own a small business and work on cars everyday to pay the bills. I guess my job is below them too. Makes the real working people sick to see these socialist wannabees. Everybody owes me.....B$ You are owed nothing- go get a job like the rest of responsible adults. Then work your way up. MORONS
SO F-G WHAT??? Do you comprehend people get retail jobs b/c they're UNEDUCATED, STUPID, LAZY or otherwise INFERIOR ot those who make $50/hour? Ever heard of "FAIRNESS?
You want me with 2 University degrees in Physics to earn as much as frigging dimwit with IQ level of 65?
How is that not a job? You work, your employer pays you...thats a job. Just because it isnt the most glamorous or pay the most doesnt negate the importance. not everyone has the skill or training or education to make top dollar. You shouldnt make those jobs seem worthless, some ppl take pride in those jobs and your statement is insulting to them Im sure.
yep and thats about all the jobs that are out there! Slave labor go work at a walmart and see what it's like LMAO!
With no benefits!
you are mistaken. 7.50 is a wage, paid to a worker, for services rendered at a place of employment. a rose by any other name no? and said wage is traditionally agreed upon before work commences so the employee has not been tricked into performing his/her work for some undisclosed sum. what you are eluding to is that 7.50 an hour does not a career make. this is wher we are in agreement. the solution to this scenario is to offer a service that is worth more than 7.50 an hour. this requires education beyond highschool. to suggest the fellow distributing movie tickets or checking out your gluttonous blackfriday order at walmart should be making more than 7.50 is morose.
Sorry Drew, $7.50 per hour IS a job. It's not a job that can support a family, but it's a job, and a job that pays is better then no job at all. Almost everyone has to start at the bottom, and someone has to fill those minimum wage jobs. Once people show they know how to do a $7.50/hour job, they can move up to the next one at higher pay, and keep on going from there. Of course, getting an education in something useful, whether at college or trade school, helps that process along. All the Occupy people would be better served by pouring that energy into finding a job instead of railing against the capitalist system that allows them the luxury of protesting while uploading videos from their iPhones.
More than unemployment will make you.
It may not be a great job but it is a job. I admire those people more than OWS. At least they are giving it their best effort. When they look for better work they will have good job references. What will the little whiny creeps have-NOTHING!
Its OK Drew, I will work. You stay home and do nothing, cuz 7.50 an hour is not enough to pay for your iphone and cigarettes and ironically funny sneakers. Im not going to sit here and make somebody else pay for me when I can work.
You people are idiots. My wife and I both work retail and make well more than 7.50. All these occupy idiots need to get a job and move out of their parents basements.
so you are saying that 7.25 is not a job because that is not enough for a person to live off of, right? thats what I am getting out of your statement. Now I have worked for 7 dollars an hour granted its not great but I was able to support my wife and my self. Now I am in the military making less than 3 dollars an hour and have to support my wife and son and still pay bills. So if people take a look back and relieze they have items that they can live with out than they would be able to make that 7.25 for 5 hours for 4 days a week work. I mean thats if you really work that and only get 20 hours a week but who knows.
What do they do when they amass unprecedented profits? They cut jobs. What do they do when they get government bailouts? They cut jobs. What do they do when all the legislation is crafted in their favor? They cut jobs.
Consider where most of the jobs they do create are located. Not at your local retail store, but in factories abroad. For a nation that's so in love with itself, I'm surprised so many Americans are excited about all the jobs we create ABROAD.
Republicans, baggers, birthers, John Birchers, KKK'ers all like to cut off their own nose to spite their face.
You're assuming that the average american invests in thought.
Yup, all businesses always cut jobs, all the time! But wait, then they wouldn't have any employees ever. Something is missing in your logic.
Or all the jobs for foreign workers (H1 visa) in our own country!
So the rest of us just sit back and take it? Why not bring back the good ole company store while were at it? I probably make more money than you do (I'm in the top 10%) but I'm still disgusted and what this system is doing to small business and working class families. It is time for a change and I love the idea of occupying major retailers but I would like to see it go further. Our system favors top down investors and media elites at the expense of the rest of us. Occupy needs to start targeting overpaid celebrities and shareholders meetings of major corps.
Why are celebreties overpaid? You are the idiots going out and watching their movies. You are the idiots buying their products. You are the idiots reading the magazines about them. You are the idiots wearing the clothing they advertise. They sell their bodies for money, they entertain, for money. They have to live in the spot light 24/7 while you get all the privacy you want. So why shouldn't they make the money that people are stupid enough to give them? You are an idiot, and you are not in the top 10% unless you inherited money.
I agree. Can someone tell me why a movie ticket is 15.00. How the hell do you ring up a 60.00 tab going to the movies. Celebrities and Major Sports athletes make way too much. The adverage person shouldn't have to shell out 200.00 to get 1 ticket to a football game. Terrible.
OK Adam, we get it. Now you can give away your fortune starting out with those Occupy People. I'm sure they will accept your standing on the corner and throwing them your money.
sanjosemike
Adam, you claim to be in the top 10% but you're complaining about celebrities being overpaid? Let's get real, IF you were in the top 10% you wouldn't be posting on CNN and you certainly would be promoting occupying shareholder meetings of major corps. Why not just be yourself for a change?
so as you suggest we'll just stand by and do nothing as it happened in our history so many times before...look where it's got us?
What you fail to understand is that the 98% of Americans think your 1% protesting over another 1% is pointless and quite frankly a Democrat ploy to disrupt the elections where Obama sees the moving truck pulling up out front of the White House. Try as you may but Nov. 2012 the Obama's are getting an eviction notice. BTW next time you cash your Accorn paycheck think about what trash you are.
We could do as you suggest – disrupt, whine, complain and offer no solutions.
The majority of Americans work for small businesses.
That is beyond false. Small businesses only account for 11% of the jobs in the U.S.
Samll business is classified as a company of 500 employees or less. Thats what the GOP play on when they talk about small business, they could care less about Mom and Pop.
Small business is classified as a company of 500 employees or less. That's what the GOP play on when they talk about small business, they could care less about Mom and Pop.
Small, local businesses employee most of those who actually still have jobs. The major corporations employee some people here, but the people making $1 a day in Asia to make cheap crap aren't being employed by small, local businesses. It is local businesses which drive the economy. Sadly, though, it is the wealthiest 1% and the big corporation and their bankers who have the spare cash to buy politicians. Small, local businesses, the real major employers, can't afford to buy politicians.
Thank you. OWS has never been able to focus long enough to think about the implications of their ridiculous statements or actions.
Yeah cause that's what you need, easy to eat staetments. Need a one liner to decribe the movement, and you call the 99 ridiculous ? Why can't you grasp the concept ? Can you please tell us about the implications that the 99 didn't think of ?
They work for nobody. They are too busy occupying and complaining about not having jobs.
Now even the Fat Cats can loose their bonus money. GOOD!!
These companies cut jobs either way. Big retail tends to operate with the minimal level of employees possible to save money. Better to support companies that take care of their employees instead. But if you hate small business so much, feel free to go shop at Walmart.
Have you ever looked at the 'Made In...' tags on products at Walmart/Target/Kmart, etc. American jobs? I don't think so.
^^ This. Finally! Someone gets it!
Thank you! There have already been companies/small businesses in NY who have stores around the movement that have been forced to lay people off. I don't get why those in this movement don't see all the harm they are doing!
How do we get the corporoations to listen to the People? They dont care about People they care about their bottom lines. And Consumers have a right to support small business vs the Corporate Beast who cares only about Profit at all costs.
Sometimes you've gotta break afew eggs to make an omlet. One day, or one month's loss of sales might just show these dullard corporations that people without money won't buy their stuff. So they should pay their staff enough to be able to buy the products they build or sell. They all seem to think their customers are someone else's employees.
Huh??
Ha !
Big Lots is selling them at $5 apiece! Had to get a few.
Occupiers for $5 apiece? Way to much. They should be 100 for 25 cents
I have a Snuggy.
Clearly, you are part of the 1%. I had to put my Snuggy on a collateralized payment plan.
Not any more you don't. I stole that @#$%, brah.
LOL...
"The credit cards the 99% overcharge will allow the 1% to enrich themselves gluttonously on the backs of hardworking people who simply want to provide a memorable time for their families,"
wait wait....... so the 1% have never worked hard? I am willing to bet that their hard work is the reason that they are so wealthy....... unless they won the lottery a couple of times I am willing to bet the majority of them were hard working people who are just more successful than these morons.
The top hedge fund manager made over $1 billion (yes with a "B") in personal income in 2009, while the economy was in the toilet, doing nothing more than manipulating imaginary money. If you think such "hard work" deserves to make that much money, and then pay only 15% taxes on it, while the rest of us pay a much higher rate, then you are one of the "moron" who are the real problem.
Langkard: please post some citations on where you get these numbers...it doesn't matter how hard or easy the work is...what matters is how much money you are making for the company you work for.
So explain to me how idiots overusing their credit cards is the fault of the retailers? I pay my card off every month, always have. Make it hard for me to buy stuff locally and I'll order it online, what have you solved? You're just punishing the locals who work at the stores you're protesting, while simultaneously alienating a large portion of the population who agreed with your anger over wall street.
Soooo, would they recommend those for the occupy movement who work for those retailers to find other work since its their employers that are causing the harm? Perhaps instead apply for jobs at smaller local non publicly traded companies for employment that can't afford 1/4 of the work force these large retailers can? That would only create more jobless people mad at the system. My opinion: Exercise your rights, there is no issue with that. As for the movement....why are we not upset with the doctors or lawyers or other practices where the people make more than $344K/year gross? I hope my sarcastic remark doesn't cause riots.
"The credit cards the 99% overcharge will allow the 1% to enrich themselves gluttonously on the backs of hardworking people who simply want to provide a memorable time for their families," - so the 99%'s financial irresponsibility is someone else's fault? Cut up your credit cards and pay cash if you can't control it. Don't blame others.
Taking personal responsibility instead of blaming others for one's shortcomings. That is so not the American way 😉
These Occupy Terrorists need to be arrested and removed from society. They do nothing but waste tax dollars with their laziness and destruction of Government Property.
They are Terrorists, plain and simple. I bet if you waterboarded some of these hippies, you'll find out they are welfare socialist babies.
Why is it you teabaggers are preoccupied with boinking your cousins and watching nascar?
Hey look, another "Loving Liberal" that spews racist garbage and hates America.
Go get a job hippy. McDonalds is hiring.
Your a blind Ignorant fool TPE. where plastic when you fornicate we don't want anymore of your kind breeding.
Teabagger Express, you are a d-bag, pal. Please go stick your brainless skull in a blender.
Look at how hateful these terrorist liberals are!
What immoral human filth.
If you think everyone protesting at OWS is a "hippy" you are not looking close enough.
"Removed from society and waterboarded". Listen to you.
TPE you represent the COMMON thinking people that let these Politicians bring about yet another Great Depression, they too are as fixed minded as you. Too bad you will not survive the next level, fixed positions seldom do. Obama warned you: CHANGE. but you and your kind won't be missed, trust me on that.
TPE: he is an idea....get a plane ticket, fly to texas and lick GWB's nuts.
All you teapartiers brand everyone who doesn't agree with you a terrorist. Try listening, reason and developing a mutual idea to improve our society for once. I know its hard with such feeble minds but give it a shot.
TPE = Gullible and susceptible to propaganda.
You IDIOTS!!! The "1%" will not feel any serious repercussions, only the small business owners will. A bad Black Friday can put a small business under, which then gives more customers and more power to the "1%".
You Occupiers are the fringe. You do not represent 99% of us. While you may have been close in the beginning, the number is now closer to 10% (being generous). Go home to your mom's basement and stop making everything worse.
You should try reading the article before posting next time. The article is all about Occupy targeting major retailers and encouraging people to shop at local small businesses instead. You'd know that if you had bothered to read it before posting.
Jesus dude ...they are IN FAVOR of small business, you won't see them in front of a mom & pop.
before calling someone an "idiot", please take a 3rd grade reading comprehension course.
Lean to read. The whole idea is to get people to go to small businesses for black friday. I don't know, though, maybe with your level of reasoning you consider Walmart a small business. Next time you have a thought, just let it go.
If one bad black friday is what does in a bunch of small businesses, the US is deeper trouble because of the 1% than OWS seems to think.
So why don't they go out and promote small businesses, rather than trying to harass people who are shopping elsewhere? If you want to get a girl to go on a date with you, do you go stand in front of the other guy she's talking to and start interrupting their conversation?
I would love to say I am surprised, but this act of stupidity is exactly what I expected from these people.
Agree 100%
OWS is disorganized, but it is drawing attention to the root causes of the economic mess that we are in: greed and corruption in the corporate world.
They will impede on the rights of individuals to shop at larger retailers. Also, greed and corruption can be found everywhere including in the OWS.
They are going to be mocked and cause tensions. This will do more harm than good to their hopeless movement.
Wait I thought they wanted their 13 demands posted on their OWS website...wait no they don't like banks and fees. Wait, they don't like college loan debt. Ohhh wait, in reality they don't like life, they thought it was going to be easy. Life lesson learned, no charge.
They're drawing attention to the problems caused by an angry unruly mob, their original message has been lost and drowned out.