Overheard on CNN.com: 10 takes on money in politics
What do you think is the role of money in politics? How could the system be improved?
January 23rd, 2012
07:58 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: 10 takes on money in politics

Editor's note: This post is part of the Overheard on CNN.com series, a regular feature that examines interesting comments and thought-provoking conversations posted by the community.

This week's In Depth topic takes a look at money in politics, which is a favorite subject among CNN.com commenters. Below, we've compiled some perspectives straight from our readers.

Share your thoughts on this list, as well as your possible solutions. We'll be following up on this post later this week with your ideas.

In Depth: Where money and politics collide

1. What do you think about the 'Citizens United' decision?

The U.S. Supreme Court's controversial "Citizens United" decision sanctioned unlimited corporate and union donations to nonaffiliated PACs. This ruling has proven to be one of the top targets for many commenters, with lots of readers expressing opposition.

aduklips: "Did this really need to be written? Money = influence, and Citizens United enshrined this as Constitutional doctrine. It will take years to undo that case."

2. What other kinds of organizations get involved?

This reader suggested that 501(c)(4) organizations may be a source of trouble. These are a type of nonprofit organization.

medianone: "Rest assured CNN will tell us about Super PACs, which can raise unlimited amounts for hard-hitting ads, but have to declare their donors. But, will they do as good a job with Super PACs' more secretive handmaiden, the private 501c4 organizations? Which aren't required to disclose donor names but can funnel mega bucks from those undisclosed sources directly into Super PACs where it can be spent on influencing ads. Those 501c4's are what the big money doesn't want everyone to know about. The 501c$'s are where to contribute 'if you want to promote an agenda without any fingerprints.' Kind of makes the whole idea of campaign finance reform laughable."

3. Should there be campaign finance reform?

Some readers suggest that the system of campaign financing must be overhauled.

RinosRwinos: "Until we have campaign finance reform we will have the best government money can buy. Limit candidates to a set dollar amount and have full disclosure."

4. Do individual vs. corporate contributions matter?

A recent story about the troubles faced by political newcomers got some readers thinking about who should do the contributing.

VRage13: "What this points out is how much we need campaign finance reform. I favor a maximum contribution of $25 per registered voter per election. Let the elections be about ideas. This has the benefit of banning corporation from getting involved as corporations cannot vote and the individual seeking election can only donate $25 to his/her own election bid, so no more buy elections by the super rich pouring their own money into the campaign. 'Government of the people, by the people' means that normal people should be able to run for office with a chance of being elected."

5. Is money still needed in campaigns?

This reader suggests that maybe money isn't everything, especially given all the technology out there.

Guest: "There's nothing wrong with the old constitution. There aren't integral provisions for ludicrous amounts of campaign spending in there. All that needs to happen is to get rid of the campaign laws that turned bribery of a public official into corporate campaign sponsorship. Set the cap for campaign spending at $0. Honestly, in this day and age ANYONE can get their name out there. Ban political parties, ban lobbying, and include provisions in FCC contracts to provide a single spot for candidates who have met the requirements to get on the ballot. 60 seconds, so you had better make your statement count. It would eliminate corruption, over-saturation, and mudslinging."

6. What if campaign funding came from taxpayers?

A story looking at campaign spending reform after Watergate got a lot of readers thinking about the current situation.

US1776: "The only way to fix the campaign finance system is to get ALL the private money out of politics. That means that all campaign financing must be taxpayer-funded. After all, it's US, you and me, these candidates are going to be working for. So we want them betrothed only to us. And since we fund their campaigns then we have their full and undivided attention. Then we limit the amount of time for campaigning to 6 months. No more. And we give each candidate the same amount of money for campaigning and now we have a level playing field. Oh, and we outlaw all PACS so no mysterious money coming into to corrupt our election process."

7. Should government itself be changed?

One reader suggested that government itself is structured in such a way as to encourage campaign finance problems.

bjb57: "The only way to take money out of politics is to create a system where there is no incentive for private actors to influence politicians. The only way to create such an incentive is to decrease government's role in the private economy. Who wants to bet that Zelizer advocates doing that? He strikes me as a big government guy. Trying to legislate money out of politics is like hoping that water will run uphill. If you want money out of politics then you have to ask for smaller government. I know I would sign up for that in a minute. How about anyone else?"

8. Are we worrying too much?

Not everyone is hyped up about changing things. Some people say voters will do what they want.

longtooth: "Although I'm uncomfortable with the Supreme Court decision allowing corporations and PACs to spend unlimited money on political ads, I'm optimistic enough to think that voters can still think for themselves, and recognize BS when they see it. Not all of them, of course, but enough to negate the blizzard of money flying at them."

MM22: "long: 'I'm optimistic enough to think that voters can still think for themselves, and recognize BS when they see it.' Exactly. Voters aren't so blind and stupid that they'll vote for 1) the person who put out the most ads, or 2) the person who spent the most money. Money is not equivalent to votes. Why? Because the burden is still on the voter to cast his ballot on election day."

9. How can technology be applied to campaigns?

Some commenters got pretty creative with alternative ideas for candidates wishing to spread their message.

BossMoney: "Let's look at this from a modern perspective. Have a public slush fund which is evenly distributed for all viable, legal candidates to use from. We have the internet, so let's utilize it, shall we? Instead of all the hand-kissing and back-patting that politicians do to get contributions (which makes them feel indebted), we have a public forum within the internet where regular citizens can log on and hear stump speeches and interact via question forums to whatever candidate they choose. This would wipe out the $$$ for votes that has corrupted our system. Of course, this is just a very vague and basic concept which would have to be built upon, but it's a start."

10. What other things should be examined?

This reader went on to suggest not only public financing but improvements to the voting system.

Centerlink: "We need 3 things to save the nation:
1) Public financing of ALL elections with no contributions allowed from 3rd parties or from candidates themselves – to completely decouple corrupting money from policy.
2) Eliminate electronic black-box voting systems and return to a verifiable paper ballot with tamper-proof systems.
3) Instant runoff voting – which has been proven to consistently select the voters' most desired choice and could make the intent of the electoral college completely obsolete.
Institute those 3 things and then let the chips fall where they may."

After reading this list, what do you think? What could be fixed about our political financing system? Share your thoughts below and in related stories, and we'll follow up later. Be sure to look at some prior ideas to improve the election process that came from our readers. Also, if you're a political donor, tell us your story on CNN iReport.

Share your opinion in the comments area below and in the latest stories on CNN.com. Or sound off on video via CNN iReport.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. Change IS needed

    Money has destroyed our representation in Congress.
    Congress is corrupted and no longer represents the people at all.
    What representation do the poor have? Hardly any, yet the poor are the largest majority.

    When money is used to subvert Congress, only the rich get represented. The "1 percent".
    Isn't that called Oligarchy or something? When do we get our democracy back?
    Our votes don't count for squat anymore because we are only electing bribe-takers and hoping one might actually do something ethical for once but the odds are always against it. Crime pays. Money talks. Sleazy people listen to money, and sleazy politicians are pretty much the only ones who get on the ballot. We can't win by voting.

    We need a Zero Tolerance policy against political contributions of any sort....ESPECIALLY FROM BUSINESSES.
    A TOTAL BAN.....or we can all forget about seeing any progress in politics at ANY level!!!

    January 24, 2012 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
  2. chrissy

    Gone are the days when a hard working person can have blind faith in the government doing the job they were elected to do. For too long hard working people worked, took care of their families, paid their taxes and ignored what was being done in DC.

    January 24, 2012 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
  3. bigwilliestyles

    Hi Chrissy, long time no read! I guess we are the late night crew tonight. I have to go to work soon so I'll be running on Starbucks today. I sincerely hope all is well with you and yours, I always look forward to your posts.

    January 24, 2012 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
  4. bigwilliestyles

    @ Change is needed: absolutely.

    January 24, 2012 at 3:04 am | Report abuse |
  5. chrissy

    🙂 and i you bigwillie! Nice to see its quiet in here. Was just watching world news, and no surprise on Romney tax return. They said he makes in one week the sum that makes anyone the l% and paid l4% tax rate. No surprise there eh?

    January 24, 2012 at 3:09 am | Report abuse |
  6. bigwilliestyles

    @ Chrissy: yeah but his privileged upbringing is killing him as he campaigns. He can't connect with real people or their issues. If the only voters were the rich, he'd win easily. I want to see what's in the Caymans.

    January 24, 2012 at 3:23 am | Report abuse |
  7. chrissy

    lmao bigwillie, i live in michigan i know all about his rich upbringing. Do i think he will win? Hell no! Do i want him to? Again hell no! I wanta see some poor hardworking person in office, preferably one who will have higher goals than getting rich. Lol

    January 24, 2012 at 3:31 am | Report abuse |
  8. chrissy

    Well time for me to call it a day. Dont work to hard and keep the faith bigwillie. 🙂

    January 24, 2012 at 3:38 am | Report abuse |
  9. Joey Isotta-Fraschini©™

    @ TORI ©:
    Non potevo dormire durante la notte. Stavo scrivendo alle 2:14 di mattina.

    January 24, 2012 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
  10. kyle788

    I think the way CNN deliberately ignores informing viewers and readers about one of the republican candidates is all the example we need of money and media influencing politics. How can they claim to be "fair and balanced" indeed when their subscribers are deliberately kept in the dark about Ron Paul?

    January 24, 2012 at 6:27 am | Report abuse |
    • nsaidi

      We do cover Ron Paul. I did a post about him recently. Why do you support him? Please tell me about your perspective.

      January 24, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  11. Philip

    @Kylie778...Yep. I'm thinking CNN's handlers are afraid that Ron Paul really would have the fed audited if he became president. I mean, who really wants to find out that our entire stock market is one big ponzi scheme? A shell game with one in three odds. (the avg. investor has lost his ass for 20 years straight gamnling on the market)

    January 24, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
  12. Philip

    *gambling on the open market, rather. It used to be called "investing".

    January 24, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  13. GOVforSale

    The bottom line is the wealthy only run as they can only afford to win. The new unlimited process also allows foreign donations to come in to the pot without identification. This opens up foreign goverments to overthrow thru contributions and vote to a leader that may treat special.
    What happened to the days when Jimmy Carter run and they ran on the money on the tax box donation of the tax form.

    January 24, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  14. George

    I think some of the people commenting mis-understand the problem of funding election campaigns through private donations and having unlimited funding. The issue is not that money buys more advertising on TV and therefore gives one candidate an unfair advantage over the other. That is a concern, but the much bigger problem that arises from the funding of election campaigns from private organizations is that it forces politicians to sell themselves to the highest bidder so that if elected they stop doing what is in the best interests of all of the American people but instead do what is in the best interests of the people/groups who funded their campaign. There is serious corruption at the very heart of our democracy and it needs to be stopped. All election campaign funding should be paid for by everyone in america. We should all contribute a small amount and then get to choose which candidate our small contribution goes to (or have it split evenly across the board).

    January 24, 2012 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |

    We should never limit speech to solve this problem. What we should do it find ways to make campaigns and issues more about the substance of the issues and less about the image or the emotions that go with the issues. If you increase how substance of the issue effects the process then a politician will be influenced less by this money.

    January 24, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
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