Overheard on CNN.com: Politics of Komen's Planned Parenthood reversal
Readers are debating the politics of charities and funding for health services.
February 3rd, 2012
04:47 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Politics of Komen's Planned Parenthood reversal

Editor's note: This post is part of the Overheard on CNN.com series, a regular feature that examines interesting comments and thought-provoking conversations posted by the community.

One of the most talked-about stories this week has been about the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation's earlier decision not to renew part of its longstanding partnership with Planned Parenthood. The foundation has now reversed its decision, much to the applause of some of our readers.

Komen Foundation reverses funding decision of Planned Parenthood

This reader, who said he is a doctor, wrote that he supported this decision.

RationalDoc: "As a primary care physician, I am proud of the Komen organization for their correct decision to continue to support the preventive women's health services that are provided by Planned Parenthood. Too many misinformed people mistakenly demonize Planned Parenthood, as 98% of the services they provide are preventive health services including cancer screening and birth control for women, often lower income women with limited access to health care, and only 2% of their services are abortion-related, and no federal money is used for that small part of what they do. Planned Parenthood prevents unintended pregnancies, thereby reducing the need for abortion, a more positive impact on our attempts to reduce abortion than anything the vigilante anti-abortion people have done. In fact, many of the anti-abortion people are also against sex education in schools. Go figure."

Another reader said they were wondering about the system in place for health care service funding.

lalizzie: "While I disagree with the Komen foundation's original decision to repeal funding to Planned Parenthood, it is totally within their rights as a nonprofit to decide which causes it would like to fund. This whole fiasco also begs the broader question; should we be relying on nonprofit organizations like Komen to fund public health services?"

But this person said the decision is within Komen's rights.

weissdog: "Yet another example of how abortion is politicized. Why shouldn't Komen be able to support what and whom they want? They are not a taxpayer subsidized organization and are not a government entity. Why does anyone other than their leadership have any say here?"

This reader said Planned Parenthood helped their family.

eagleyes4u: "Planned Parenthood saved my mother's life with an early breast-cancer detection, she's with us today because of their amazing Doctors and medical staff. I'm so angry at Komen for injecting politics into woman's healthcare! When will these religious zealots stop injecting their extreme views on the rest of us and our bodies! Planned Parenthood continues to serve communities with essential life-saving services and I will forever be grateful for there existence. As for Komen I will no longer donate, work or walk for them ever again."

Many readers wanted to talk about the politics of abortion, and this reader said they don't believe in it and then explained why.

Opethfan: "There's always going to be two sides to a discussion. I'll just keep believing in myself and my personal decisions. I don't believe in abortion. It's wrong at every level. Yes, it's your body but that doesn't give you the right to kill. Use double protection if you're going to sleep around. Take some responsibility for the wrong choices you are making. What's the difference in killing a baby at the fetal stage and killing a baby at birth, or thereafter? There really is no difference."

Some commenters mentioned that they felt birth control is OK, but abortion is not.

MindLikeWarp: "Birth control is perfectly fine. No human being is created. Once a human being is created, terminating it is murder."

Some called for a gentler tone of discussion.

Stoshie: "I am against abortion. But I am not arrogant, angry, or intolerant enough to force my views on anyone else. I also know what Planned Parenthood does, and it goes far, far beyond just providing abortions. Those ignorant fools who think that is all Planned Parenthood does are too stupid to make relevant comments about Planned Parenthood."

Others wrote that they opposed to the contribution scheme in general.

TinMan57: "They won't see any donations from me. One charity should not be donating to another. Just morally and ethically wrong!"

But some thought they wouldn't have contributed to Komen anyway.

OvernOut: "We give to organizations that support persons with neurological disorders, so neither of these groups. I thought SGK was too big, anyway, and took funds from other worthy causes. I'm starting to think the same about the 'red dress' stuff, too. These organizations are all about 'branding' or selling pink and red stuff, not actually helping people in need."

This person was very happy about the decision.

artichokes: "Thank goodness Komen Foundation reversed it's decision. Why is it that for the last 50 years conservative bible thumping white men try to control women 's rights? Women must stand strong for their personal choices. Dear conservatives, I make my own life choices, not you! Planned Parenthood is helping women with their health issues. Leave the organization alone!"

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  1. Bill

    What's amazing and contradictory is these opponents of abortion are also opposed to any sort of birth control or "family planning education! Do they think that by pretending that women don't concieve except by immaculate conception or somesuch that all of this is unnecessary? Fact is that most abortions could have been avoided if the parties in the proocreation simply used birth control...what's the mystery in all this? This debate over abortion is a real moral dilemma but it's so easily addressed in a simple way...provide info about sex and conception and contraception wherever possible.

    February 4, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Marky

      I don't know even ONE "opponent of abortion" who is against birth control and family planning, not one. I am a conservative and I certainly used BC and "planned" my family. When I had an unplanned pregnancy, I had the baby and raised her just like I did her older siblings. She was always much-loved and well cared for. Most of us know and practice BC, we also know it can fail.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
  2. LRR

    I really am amazed at the "religious conservatives" who think they can herd women like cattle back into the dark ages. It is not going to work. "The cow is out of the barn," as the saying goes. Morality has always been relative to whomever is setting the tone in a culture. It is not absolute. Even murder is justifiable – look at war. Look at self defense. It is time that science be honored and that all people have care. And that a woman's body is no longer the stomping ground for possessive autocrats or legislators! Men would not like it if their reproductive rights were impacted. I read a quote earlier today:"If men gave birth abortion would be a sacrament." Ponder that.

    February 4, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Dott

      If by some medical miracle mankind doctor's could creat a way for men to conceive only then should they have any say in what a woman does to her body. Her egg her body. Why is it that old gray haired men sit in judgement on a female's reproductive rights and expect to tell them what they should do about an unplanned pregnancy. Few is any of these old gray haired men have ever or would ever adopt an unwanted child. If they did they would probably go over seas. Our orphanages are over flowing so if you can't get pregnant just shut up and let the woman and her doctor decide what is best for her.

      February 4, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sean

      Her egg her body
      Without HIS sperm your egg is useless. It takes two to tango so to speak.
      Riddle me this batman, why is it “Her egg her body” but if she decides to keep it, HE has to pay. HE has no rights but all the responsibility. If you support the idea that SHE is the only one with say then you should also support HE has no responsibility. Equality…it’s a b*tch.

      That said I support freedom of choice.

      February 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sean

      Her egg her body
      Without HIS sp.erm your egg is useless. It takes two to tango so to speak.
      Riddle me this batman, why is it “Her egg her body” but if she decided to keep it, HE has to pay. HE has no rights but all the responsibility. If you support the idea that SHE is the only one with say then you should also support, HE has no responsibility. Equality…it’s a b*t.ch.

      That said I support freedom of choice.

      February 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dott

      For Sean Have you checked the stats to see how many men, after their input into the process which is maybe 5 seconds, walk away and do every thing they can to avoid paying child support? The to be mother is faced with raising the child alone, getting government help, living with parents and all those things that contribute to the state of this nation in child rearing. I see you are pro-choice and I do believe that was the subject of my post. Her body, Her Egg and Her choice. Got it?

      February 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marky

      Let me ask you why you think that it's always "religious conservatives" that are against abortion, or that those same conservatives want to "drag someone back to the dark ages"? I am a "religious conservative" and I have no desire to drag people back to the dark ages in any way. I do think if you choose to have sex without protection, or you use protection and it fails, you have other choices which re very acceptable aside from abortion, The biggest thing that turned me away from abortion was the story of a non-Christian who had 2 abortions and when she told her story of a mid term abortion to her friends (who also weren't Christians), it turned their stomachs and made them feel sick. Non of them wanted to have one after talking to her. Adoption IS an option, and should be considered. So is raising the child, if you can, and if you have support.

      That being said, PP does help many with legitimate BC, as well as exams and help with prevention and treatment of disease. These things are much of what PP does and are deserving of aid, BUT any NPO should be able to say what they will donate to and what they won't without self-appointed watchdogs like the writer of this article and many other writers and reporters! Ridiculous that anyone lost their job over this; just ridiculous!

      February 8, 2012 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Marky

      Dott, are you really that out to lunch?? If a woman can get pregnant by herself, then it is none of the man's business what she does. Once that baby is born, she nearly always demands and gets, child support, while she plays every game she can think of to prevent that same man from visiting his child and having a real relationship with him/her. That child support gets paid until age 18 whether or not he relinquishes his rights as a father, unless the mother declines child support in papers filed in court. It doesn't matter how devoted that father is, she always seems to have by far, the upper hand where all the rules are concerned, especially if they were never married. Her egg, her choice? Let me tell you, his sperm, his choice as well!

      I don't speak without experience. My son has a child with a former girlfriend who is now pregnant with her 3rd child (each has a different father), and he fights for every minute he spends with his child. It has been one long nightmare, even though he loves his child and faithfully pays the child support. His first choice would have been adoption, since he saw neither of them as being ready for parenting and is himself, adopted, but he had no say according to law.

      My daughter became pregnant by the man she planned to marry and he left. She asked for termination of his rights and no child support, and has always been willing for him to have a role in her child's life. He has never done so. Her choice, but gotta say, it's been hard on her child to deal with no father and no, we aren't on welfare or poverty-stricken.

      Society says have sex with everyone you date, after all, it's so much fun! Use BC and there will be no problems. Not true, folks. My kids were both older and practicing BC, but.........here we are. Sometimes I think people should sit down with a counselor and really talk about it for several sessions and everyone have a choice, NOT just the woman.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
  3. leeintulsa

    @jj: i would hope you would take my word over that of some alleged pimp. i bet i know as much about planned parenthood as he does, i'll wager..

    February 4, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Mary

    sorry for the double post, didn't see it go thru the first time.

    February 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  5. banasy©

    What have you got against PAP smears?
    What have you got against gyne exams?
    Other than it involves naughty bits

    February 4, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Dott

    Mary relieving a woman of a fertilized egg is abortion and it is not murder. Is a chicken egg a chicken? Don't want an abortion then don't have one. Take care of your own business and leave others to do the same.

    February 4, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  7. TruthHurts

    To the Left giving to Planned Parenthood is the Loyalty Test like a sophisticated gang initiation.

    This has nothing to do with Breast Cancer and everything to do with Abortion. You are not truly for Abortion unless you have paid for a few. Planned Parenthood is diabolically clever. They cover their main industry with some good work so as to allow plausible deniability. "Woman's Health", just not fetal "Woman's Health"

    February 5, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Mel

    Thank you RationalDoc for pointing out the obvious that the GOP (and obviously Catholic church for banning birth control) tries to bury it is head in the sand and not realize. Planned Parenthood has PREVENTED more abortions than these people will ever do in their lifetimes by providing low cost birth control and education to women. They get on their pulpits and preach, judge and yell, but when it comes to actually preventing and lessening the number of abortions by means of education and providing birth control they yell and about that as well. They don't want women to have abortions but yet they don't want to provide education and birth control so women can prevent becoming pregnant in the first place. The icing on the cake for me is if a woman in a low income area does decide to have the baby they then want to close down all resources to her to provide food and health care for that baby by slashing funding to WIC, welfare, food stamps and medicaid. Pretty much they care about the baby in the womb then when it is born they couldn't care less.

    February 6, 2012 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Cam

      To the GOP, it's their responsiblity to protect the fetus from conception to birth and anything otherwise would be murder. To the GOP, it's a person from the moment of conception until it's born..then it's not their responsibility. They don't even want to see or have to look at that child. If the child dies from starvation or lack of medical care, well that's not their problem. How does this make sense to anyone???

      February 7, 2012 at 8:23 am | Report abuse |
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