February 27th, 2012
02:13 PM ET

Student shot at Ohio high school dies, police say

More on this story from CNN affiliates WOIO-TV, WEWS-TV, WJW-TV and WKYC-TV.

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[Updated at 4:04 p.m. ET] Chardon Police Chief Timothy McKenna said in a press conference today that two of the victims in Monday's shootings were in critical condition, one was in serious condition and one was in stable condition.

[Updated at 2:58 p.m. ET] Danny Komertz, a student at Chardon High School said that he saw shooter T.J. lane point a gun directly at a group of students before shooting them.

"I looked straight ahead and I saw a gun pointing at a group of four guys sitting at a table and he was able two feet away from them," Komertz said. "He just fired two quick shots at them. I saw one student fall. I saw the other hiding, trying to get cover underneath the table."

Komertz said that he felt that by his demeanor, the shooter was targeting that group.

"It was clearly to me that he was aiming right at them," Komertz told CNN. "He wasn't shooting around the cafeteria at all. He was directly aiming at the four of them."

Komertz said he then ran out the door with his friends. While he was trying to escape he said he heard another two shots fired from behind him.

"I just can't believe it. I don't think it's real," said student Danny Komertz, who witnessed the shooting. "And I just, it kills me that I saw someone hiding, and now that someone is now dead."

[Updated at 2:13 p.m. ET] A fatally wounded student was identified by the hospital that treated him as Daniel Parmertor.

"We are shocked by this senseless tragedy," Parmertor's family said in a statement released by MetroHealth Medical Center. "Danny was a bright young boy who had a bright future ahead of him. The family is torn by this loss. We ask that you respect our privacy during this difficult time."

[Updated 1:19 p.m. ET] A student who hid in a classroom at Chardon High School said that T.J. Lane, the suspect in Monday's shooting, "was a nice guy" who he never suspected would shoot anyone.

“He just came from a really broken down home and he was living with his grandparents," Evan Erasmus, a senior at the school told CNN.  "He was more of a quiet type of kid. He was really nice, though, if you did talk to him.”

Erasmus said that Lane and some of the victims "used to be friends" but more in middle school and early high school.

“He was one of the nicest kids there…," Erasmus said. "It was really shocking that it was him.”

Erasmus told CNN that he believed T.J. Lane was either a sophomore or junior at the school.

He said that Lane was sitting about a table away from some of the victims.

Erasmus said he heard the victims "were all sitting there and then he just stood up and that’s when it all started."

Meanwhile, he and the other students in a nearby classroom, "turned the lights off and we headed into a corner" after the shooting.

[Updated 12:52 p.m. ET] Witnesses and one of the shooting victims have identified the gunman as T.J. Lane, according to The Plain Dealer of Cleveland.

[Updated 12:04 p.m. ET] Police say one student has died from the shootings at Chardon High School this morning. Five students were shot in total, officials said.

[Updated 11:58 a.m. ET] A parent of children who attend Chardon High School says the gunman in today's shooting had specific targets and was not shooting randomly, according to a report from CNN affiliate WJW-TV.

[Updated 11:43 a.m. ET] The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says it has been given one handgun from the Ohio high school shooting scene to do an emergency trace.

The Geauga County sheriff's office is executing searches in the case with the assistance of ATF agents, a law enforcement official said.

[Updated 11:13 a.m. ET] Geauga County Sheriff Daniel McClelland says a K-9 unit tracked the shooting suspect, who was apprehended "some distance from the school," according to a report on CNN affiliate WJW-TV.

[Updated 10:54 a.m. ET] The suspect in the shooting of five students at Chardon High School turned himself in to bystanders in Chardon Township, a law enforcement official told CNN affiliate WKYC-TV.

[Updated 10:43 a.m. ET] A student at Chardon High School, Evan Erasmus, told CNN affiliate WEWS-TV that the suspect in Monday's shootings may have posted a threatening message Sunday night on the social networking service Twitter.

"I think he said that he was going to bring a gun to school and I think that everyone just blew it off like he was joking," Erasmus said.

[Updated 10:34 a.m. ET] Law enforcement officials say they received reports that a teacher chased the shooter at Chardon High School out of the building.

[Updated 10:31 a.m. ET] There are five victims of the shooting at a Chardon High School in surburban Cleveland, law enforcement officials said.

[Updated 10:05 a.m. ET] Those wounded at Chardon High School in Ohio are students at another school in nearby Auburn, said Evan Erasmus, a student at Chardon. They had been waiting in the Chardon cafeteria for a bus to Auburn when they were shot, Erasmus said.

[Updated 9:53 a.m. ET] Four students were wounded when a gunman opened fire in the cafeteria of a suburban Cleveland high school just as the school day was beginning Monday, law enforcement officials said.

The suspected Chardon High School shooter - believed to be a student, according to a school official - was in custody, FBI Special Agent Scott Wilson told reporters.

Wilson declined to say how badly the injured students had been hurt.

"We just hope that they're OK," he said.

School administrators locked down schools in the city of Chardon, Ohio, about 30 miles east of Cleveland. and assured parents that all remaining students were safe.

Still, parents eager to retrieve their children hurried to school buildings, forming long lines as school officials checked identifications before releasing students. At one point, black-clad SWAT team members walked by parents waiting outside the middle school, enhancing what was a surreal scene for many.

"This stuff doesn't happen here at Chardon. Everybody's a little upset," said one parent who was preparing to pick up his daughter, a 10th-grader who had been evacuated to Maple Elementary School.

Despite initial reports that two people were involved, it appeared only one person was responsible for the shooting, Superintendent Joseph Bergant said.

"My understanding is there was one gunman," he said. Bergant said he believed the suspect is a student.

The shooting occurred around 7:40 a.m. just as school was getting started for the day, school board member Larry Reiter said. It happened inside the cafeteria, which is near the entrance to the school, he said.

It was unclear how the suspect was taken into custody.

School officials locked the high school down following the shooting.

One parent told CNN affilaite WKYC that her daughter had texted from a closet to tell her that there had been a shooting at the school, but that she was okay.

Chardon is a small city of about 5,100 people 30 miles east of Cleveland. About 1,150 students attend the high school, which is next to Chardon Middle School and across the street from Maple Elementary School.

[Updated 9:48 a.m. ET] A youth suspected in the shooting at an Ohio high school fled the building but was caught nearby, according to a Plain Dealer report on Cleveland.com.

Three boys and a girl were injured in the shooting which happened in the Chardon High School cafeteria before classes started, the Plain Dealer report said.

"Parent Jeannette Roth, who had heard from her son Joshua, a junior, said he told her the shooting happened while students were eating breakfast in the cafeteria and waiting for first period.  Suddenly a boy 'stood up and started shooting, and then it was chaos,'" the Plain Dealer report read.

[Updated 9:27 a.m. ET] Four students were wounded in the school shooting Monday morning at the high school in Chardon, Ohio, officials said. The extent of their injuries was unknown.

[Updated 9:21 a.m. ET] At least three students were injured when an armed individual entered the cafeteria of a high school near Cleveland and opened fire just as the school day was beginning Monday, police and the school superintendent said.

School officials said they did not know how badly the injured students had been wounded, but some had been taken by helicopter to the hospital.

Police took a suspect into custody, locked the high school down and assured parents that all remaining students were safe.

Despite initial reports that two people were involved, it appeared only one person was responsible for the shooting, Superintendent Joseph Bergant said.

"My understanding is there was one gunman," he said. Bergant said he believed the suspect is a student.

School officials said the rest of the high school's students were being evacuated to a nearby elementary school.

Parents gathered outside the school administration building, hoping for information about the incident and how to retrieve their children.

"My daughter is at the school and she's texting me saying they're in a closet right now and they're OK," a parent speaking to CNN affiliate WKYC said.

Chardon is a small city of about 5,100 people 30 miles east of Cleveland. About 1,150 students attend the high school, which is next to Chardon Middle School and across the street from Maple Elementary School.

[Updated 9:06 a.m. ET] The superintendent of Chardon schools said Monday he believes there was only one gunman involved in the shooting at Chardon High School.

[Updated 9:01 a.m. ET] A person who fired shots at a high school near Cleveland on Monday morning is in custody, a school official said.

[Updated 8:55 a.m. ET] At least three students were wounded when two people entered the cafeteria of a high school near Cleveland, Ohio, and opened fire just as the school day was beginning, police and a school board member said.

The shooting happened at Chardon High School in Chardon, Ohio, Lt. John Hiscox of the Geauga County Sheriff's Office said.

Three or four students were hit by the gunfire, said Larry Reiter of the Chardon Schools Board of Education. He did not know their conditions, but said helicopters had been called to take the injured to a hospital.

Chardon is a small city of about 5,100 people 30 miles east of Cleveland. About 1,150 students attend the high school, which is next to Chardon Middle School and across the street from Maple Elementary School.

[Updated 8:43 a.m. ET] Two shooters entered Chardon High School and and shot three or four students in the cafeteria, school board member Larry Reiter told CNN. He did not know their condition.

[Posted 8:38 a.m. ET] A shooting has occurred at Chardon High School near Cleveland, Ohio, Lt. John Hiscox of the Geauga County Sheriff's Office said Monday.

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  1. Jim

    How many innocent students need to die before the NRA realizes that the solution to gun violence is not more guns?

    February 27, 2012 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Thinking7

      How about the countless stories where people protected themselves from violent criminals because they had a gun? You don't have your numbers straight.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • regnarg

      So wrong

      February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Luke

      How many killers need to kill before people realize the problem is with those who kill and not the tools they choose?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • ScottR

      I think the NRA preserves the right of lawful citizens to bear arms, they don't sell them. If we melted all the guns in the world, are potato launchers next? How about rocks, they're dangerous too... With that said my heart, thoughts and prayers are with the families affected today, sad news

      February 27, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Eta

      I live in Arizona, where anyone over 21 can freely have a conceled weapon, and we don't have this problem here.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Scoot 59

      Jim; guns don't kill people; people kill people! saying what you said; is like saying a fork makes someone fat! I am a strident supporter of our 2nd amendment; and am a responsible gun owner of over 35 yrs; and I have never shot anyone. I have however; saved innocent lives!

      February 27, 2012 at 9:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Zach

      @ eta, you don't have this problem...WHAT ABOUT THE SHOOTER (JARED LAUGHNER) WHO SHOT KATHY GIFFORDS!! Or did you forget???

      February 27, 2012 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Really?!?!

      @Jim, dont be ignorant please...It is not the goal of the NRA to put guns in the hands of high school kids or to solve a problem "with more guns" that is an extremely moronic thing to think. Jumping to blame someone is the problem with gun control, the NRA wants stricter safety standards and classes to ensure guns are not used like this they are no way at fault for what happened just wait until the story unfolds before you start pointing fingers your just annoying. Regardless my thoughts go out to all those affected i am wishing the best.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
    • middleman

      So you'll just politely ask all the bad guys to turn over every gun they have. Or better yet, threaten them with a punishment.. Unfortunetly it's similar to how governments operate.... once the first gets weapons others need them to defend and it will continue to escalate from there.

      Gun laws only hurt the law abiding citizens

      February 27, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      And when will you realise that guns are not the problem, It's the idots that use them. I have permits for my weapons and you don't see me killing people. I want to see the stats of all the gun owners in America and then cross it with the number of shootings. I predict that it will show that less than 4% of gun owners have discharged their weapon on another person.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      I agree with you completely, if the guns are not readily available these senseless shootings may perhaps not happen at all.
      Getting a gun is far to easy in the country, but the NRA is more powerful than our love for our children.. Shameful !

      February 27, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      The NRA doesn't protect rights. They just collect money from people that are worried about losing their rights and use it to prop up extreme right wing candidates. Even Democrats that earn an A+ from the NRA aren't safe.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • PR1958

      Eta, Are you kidding me? Gabby Giffords and 6 others dead come to mind?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
    • jamest

      The problem is not with the guns, I t falls on thecks of pure poor parenting skills and lack of being social with people. they can blame their act on what they choose to blame it on but the fact is the fact it took the idiot to pull the trigger to cause death or injury to another person. It is the parents fault..

      February 27, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      It isn't the NRA's fault. I used to be idealistic like you, I used to believe that banning guns would get rid of guns. I used to believe banning drugs would get rid of drugs. But the truth of the matter is, banning anything that people have a huge desire for only creates a black market. Only the thugs will have guns, then we'll all be rendered as sitting ducks. I dream for utopia too, I just realized a few years ago that there is no practical solution for what I ideally want.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
    • DP44022

      @Eta: How many 21 year olds are in high school in Arizona?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
    • UseYourBrain

      It's not the gun laws. ANYBODY can get a gun, if they really want to. It's all about the prescription drugs these kids are prescribed. #justmy$.02

      February 27, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jrod

      @Thinking....so in your utopia...we would all have guns, those other kids in the cafeteria would all be locked and loaded and could have better protected themselves. It could have been a good old fashioned shootout! Get a clue

      February 27, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      @ other Jim: If you don't like guns move to the UK. You know, where guns aren't allowed, but the crime rate is still incredibly high. If you are unwilling to move please do me the favor of putting a sign in the yard that states "I do not believe in the Second Amendment and do not own any guns." One last thing Dave if you are so worried about everyone's safety to state that guns should be banned. I bet you are still driving a car? Cars kill more people than guns, so ban cars first!!

      February 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • hilo, hawaii

      BALONEY, responders. The NRA lobbies heavily against gun control laws, including accountability laws for negligent lawful owners who give easy access to their weapons, and not only to minors.
      The more criminals w/ guns, the more law abiding citizens feel compelled to **purchase** one. Now where's the "freedom" in that?
      FOLLOW THE MONEY. THE NRA IS NOT OUR FRIEND.
      btw, I am a lawful, responsible gun owner, and I fully support a ban on assault rifles, stricter back ground checks and longer permit waits as well as ACCOUNTABILITY to negligent owners. We recently had a child killed by another tot from a handgun left on a coffee table. C'mon, People. Enabling negligent owners defies reason. Gun control and gun-ban are not the same thing.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • beernpizzalover

      Maybe the shooter just got fed-up with everyone texting instead of studying. That would be enough to push me over the edge!

      February 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      The NRA is at fault? There's over 300 million guns in circulation, our government is wrong for not having better guidelines for purchase and tracking. It's virtually impossible to rid this country from guns. You can ban all gun sales for EVERYONE, however the 300+ million in circulation, will exist and the only way they'd be found is after the murderer is caught with it. So you want to ban guns, which WON'T stop crime, but prevent INNOCENT and LAWFUL gun-owners from owning guns? Guess what, gun sales are at a record high and nationwide crime totals are on a DECLINE and lowest they've been in recent years. It's not the guns. Oh yeah, as of 2010, the FBI factually/statistically shows that 1 in under 50 American's will be a victim of a VIOLENT crime. Your gun pan would take my concealed XDm .45 off of my waist, so if I'm ever mugged or have a group of thugs about to stomp me into the ground, I have to run for my life and hope I'm faster than them.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • sevenseas

      The Oklahoma mother, that used a gun to protect her 2 kids, would probably disagree Jim.
      The school shooting is a horrible thing, but falling back on knee jerk reaction-ism does nothing.

      February 27, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Shantelle

    I hope the students who were injured in this tragedy will be alright. But something that caught my attention: nearly 25% of the town attends the high school?? Is that typical of a town's population?

    February 27, 2012 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Thinking7

      It is probably a small suburb of Cleveland.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      I noticed the same thing, but then realized if the story had been in my town, the counts would have been similar. Likely they gave the population count for the town itself, but the school may be a county-wide school and include kids from out of the area. The town I live in has about 4500 for the population, but the schools, while located in town, are actually county-wide and our high school actually covers the entire northern half of the county. There are 3 high schools in the entire county of about 35,000 people. Kids come in from 15 miles away to attend and some are on the school bus for close to an hour and a half each morning/afternoon. That is likely the case here.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      It is possible since this is a rural area that students come from other smaller towns around there. My daughters school has 1100 students in a small town but its enrollment covers a wide area.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. Dave

    What a country the USA is...... Until the 2nd amendment is abolished, and kids can no longer have access to gun's via their parents, this kind of thing will continue to happen. Yet again, the world looks at America, and shakes her head in shame..

    February 27, 2012 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
    • ron paul 2012

      go on, traitor

      February 27, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • bfpierce

      Give me a break.

      What were your words of wisdom when that guy killed a bunch of students with a hatchet in Europe?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • dean

      i like the way you think, but they want their supersized meals and guns to feel happy

      February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      @ron paul 2012
      I am not American, thank god.... Therefore I am no traitor.. I am not surprised by your comments, your a typical GOP wack job, who talks before they know the facts of any situation.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      @bfpierce

      Are your comments for real?

      Yes tragic events will happen, with or without gun's, but you can limit the amount of situations like this,by having gun control,

      Idiot..

      February 27, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      The largest school massacre in the US didn't even involve guns.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Common sense over fear.

      @Dave
      Do a little reading before you post again. I’d suggest the stabbing murders in china where a dozen + are killed at the daycares. It has happened more than once, more people died and they used bladed weapons not guns. BAAM.

      And for the record I’m not GOP.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • AreWeTherYet

      Define "Gun Control". You honestly believe that limiting people's LEGAL access to firearms will reduce crime? I just want to make sure I'm clear on that theory. If that is your theory, there are some sad results from testing that. Mexico has very strict gun laws. How's that working out? And DC... And Chicago... and New Jersey....

      What country are you a native of, Dave? I plan to pull the crime statistics for where you're from. I'm sure that there's NO crime where you live though, right Dave?

      If the kid got the gun from his parents (with or without their knowledge), the parents need to be tried as accomplices, and also charged with criminal negligence. They should also never be allowed to own a firearm again. Firearms should be secured at all times. Obviously, this one wasn't.

      As for the kid – it's a shame they took him alive. He should be tried as an adult and get the needle for what he did.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Really?!?!

      again with the ignorance...the 2nd ammendment has absolutly nothing to do with the fact those kids got their hands on guns, if the firearms were properly secured then that wouldnt be an issue. So by your rock solid logic it is then the true owners of the guns fault that they were not properly secured, i dont see you screaming at the people who save lives by pulling out a gun and scaring off a would be criminal.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
    • jamest

      what was it teri

      February 27, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Wow...

      Yeah good idea. Make guns illegal. Know what else is illegal in the US? Marijuana. And of course no one has access to that in this country... Have fun in your fairytale world where government regulation can solve everything and unicorns go frollicking through fields of sunshine...

      February 27, 2012 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Bryan

      Let the world go on shaking their heads, we really don't care what the rest of the world thinks about what we do.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Homey D. Clown

      dave, you have absolutely NO clue as to what you're talking about. You have no idea the implications to the infinite layers of the things you’re spouting off. So please, you are horribly out of your element here.

      February 27, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jrod

      When the 2nd amendment was drawn up, guns took a lifetime to even load for ONE whole shot. They weren't these guns today that could light up an entire school. I hate when people refer back to the "founding fathers" and the mythical "good old days".

      February 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Dave: If you don't like guns move to the UK. You know, where guns aren't allowed, but the crime rate is still incredibly high.
      If you are unwilling to move please do me the favor of putting a sign in the yard that states "I do not believe in the Second Amendment and do not own any guns." One last thing Dave if you are so worried about everyone's safety to state that guns should be banned. I bet you are still driving a car? Cars kill more people than guns, so ban cars first!!

      February 27, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • GCX

      Trololololl. It's a troll.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • PF

      Trying to take the freedoms of an autonomous country? Gee @Dave, are you an Imperialist? Good thing we have not been disarmed so that we may defend ourselves from those such as you.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • beernpizzalover

      Yeah...outlaw the guns – that's the answer (facepalm). And while were at it, lets take away all the cars because some people will occasionally drive drunk. You need to think before you post, Idiot!

      February 27, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al Coholic

      Dave I'm sure you don't drink alcohol either. Turns out alcohol has killed more high school students in your country and my country than guns.... but they don't have access to that because its illegal to have under the age of 21 just like guns.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tired of children dying

      Bottom line if the boy's parents would have been involved in his life they would have know what was going on in it! Therefore this could have been avoided!!!!

      February 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • sevenseas

      The same myopic view was used in prohibition, did not work.
      The war on drugs uses the same logic, but drugs are still easy to get.

      If firearms had been banned, the Oklahoma mother that used a shotgun to protect her children would have turned out to be another tragedy.

      Sorry Dave history proves banning something does not keep it from being there. All it does is create a black market for the banned item, which only keeps the law abiding from using.

      February 27, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • wake up

      Try to take my gun away, Dave. will see what happens

      February 27, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Magenta

      When the Americans banned alcohol in the 20's people would go through extreame measures to buy alcohol. In rual areas people would make alcohol in their bathrooms (ever heard the term "bathtub Gin?"). Mafia families made millions selling illegally imported alcohol.
      There is a lesson to lean from prohibition: Just because something is made illegal, doesn't mean it goes away. Nor does it reduce crime.

      February 28, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
  4. SadDay

    We are saddened by some youth in the USA. I pray the three injured recover quickly without permanent damage. The gunman should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law or left along for 30 minutes with the parents to obtain constructional feedback in various forms.

    Lets pray we now do not have a rash of copy cat crimes..... 🙁

    February 27, 2012 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
  5. Lynn

    Please, Please Do Not over cover this horrible story. It fuels the fire of would be school terrorists. It's news, but as a society, we condone this behavior by sensationalizing it through mega reportage.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Tensor

      Yeh, that's what wrong the nutty boy killer and so many others just like him ... CNN covering the news caused this. Sheez.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Marissa

    Wow. If I ever want to be depressed, remind me to look at comments on CNN blogs.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • LiverNOnions

      Freedom of speech folks, she's free to speak her mind... even if you or I don't agree with it.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Sue Ellen

    CNN does not like my comments about how this act is a result of our lords retribution against an immoral society.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Craig

      Are you kidding Sue, the Lord's retribution??? I'm having a hard enough believing in Goid in the first place, then religious idiots like yourself speak up. Keep religion to yourself.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
    • AreWeTherYet

      Sue, Take your meds. I honestly believe that if there were to be divine retribution, it would not take the form of random school shootings like this. I believe the Almighty has a much bigger special effects budget. Also, please don't insinuate that any diety of any religion has anything to do with this. Isn't there enough killing in the name of [insert religion here] going on in the world? If you'd like to blather on about this, go to a story about the Taliban and rant away. At least then you'll be ALMOST relevant.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Wow...

      I'm a Christian myself, and I hate it when people like you and Pat Robertson jump on the retribution wagon. This was not God taking vengeance on a sinful nation. I think if He wanted to do that, He could do a lot better than a mental teenager causing a few gunshot wounds. You know what I think about people like you? You want attention. What other explanation is there? You can't possibly hope to make a positive difference in people's lives by spewing this crap. I have a better idea. Instead of blaming this on God and passing judgment on everybody but yourself, how about showing some respect for the lives of these kids, and praying for the families involved. Do something productive for a change...

      February 27, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Common sense over fear.

      @Sue Ellen
      I just shot coffee out of my nose lol.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
    • FLT

      You believe in a Lord that would give a kid a gun to go shoot other kids to show displeasure? That is very sad.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Melanie

      OMG...are you from that crazy Baptist church? Haha.

      February 27, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Itreallydoesntmatterwhatwethink

    Jim and Dave et al, ref your comments about guns causing this... I have guns, they are lokced in a safe and have not hurt anyone.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
  9. Pam

    I don't think its the gun problem..I carry one for protection. They can get a gun if they want it no matter what. It's parents are rasiing their children anymore....they raise themselves to do as they please.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
  10. SHAUNA

    God bless the ones injured and the one responsible. May God have mercy on him/her and help guide their families through this. What a tragic thing to happen. This REALLY makes you wonder what is wrong with society. What is wrong with people... what is wrong with parents today? Why are we not as people guiding and raising our children better than this? To go out and harm other people... such a shame.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Common sense over fear.

      @SHAUNA
      What is wrong with people...
      They still believe in Bronze Age fairy tales for one.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  11. dean

    ah good ol america and their guns, you want your freedom to carry them, heres the result

    February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      @Dean: If you don't like guns move to the UK. You know, where guns aren't allowed, but the crime rate is still incredibly high. If you are unwilling to move please do me the favor of putting a sign in the yard that states "I do not believe in the Second Amendment and do not own any guns." One last thing Dean if you are so worried about everyone's safety to state that guns should be banned. I bet you are still driving a car? Cars kill more people than guns, so ban cars first!!

      February 27, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tensor

      Jim, all of the U.K. – even including Northern Ireland – is at the bottom of the crime stats list for developed nations.

      February 27, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
  12. upset

    I find it very upsetting that most of you are making comments about gun control when children are dead. May God be with the families and children affected by this horrid event.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      No deaths have been reported. Don't jump to conclusions. This is how ugly rumors get started.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Logan

      Where does it say that children are dead? The article says children are injured.

      That said, all gun free zones serve to do is deter law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms. The criminals, like this obviously disturbed student, don't care what the laws have to say. Until more people in power realize this, these events will continue to happen. Legislators are notorious for making knee-jerk reactions without looking at the facts. The facts: lawful gun owners are among the most law-abiding and safe citizens in the U.S., while criminals are criminals and will continue to break the law (including carrying firearms in "no-gun" zones).

      February 27, 2012 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Alexander Rogge

      What's really upsetting is to see how many people can't read!

      February 27, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Uncommon Sense

      @Upset. Thank you! It's about time someone said something that actually is appropriate for the day. Thank you for remembering that there were human beings who's lives have been ruined and/or ended. Please spend your energy and focus on praying and thinking of the children and families who have been effected by this tragedy. This BS discussion about gun control/no gun control is just that..BS.

      February 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Uncommon Sense

      Oh, and @Teri – get YOUR facts straight. A child did die today. And others have died too in practically the same manner.

      February 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  13. sara

    private school or homeschool. for the sake of your kids! the biggest animals live in public school.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Hopefully your comment wasn't in code. I'm sure that it wasn't, right?

      If both parents work and can't afford private school, then what?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      Steve – it is possible to homeschool and work. I know many single-parents who do it and am considering it myself. It can be done, but it means the parent's evening hours are spent instructing the kids, not eating and watching reality tv. It's a choice.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • sara

      just like the government has a huge budget for public schools, they can pay, say, 1/4 of the costs of private schooling, or 1/2 of it. so parents who are truly determined can have access to it.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      I'm all for the voucher system, but it doesn't seem like it will ever be standard over a wide area. I remember my parents fighting for it 30 years ago. At the least, being able to write off tuition costs on your taxes. But, I don't ever see either option happening.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
    • ____

      Sara, I truly hope you are not home-schooling your children. Your grammar is atrocious! Teachers in public schools have been through the proper educational channels and have passed the State required tests that many private school teachers and home-school tutors have not.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Wow...

      @ ______
      Don't generalize too much. I was home schooled until high school, and my mom hammered me with grammar and spelling. I'm mathematically-minded, so the fact that I have better grammar than many of my peers in college is a tribute to my mom's skill. Fun fact: she had no prior education to prepare her for teaching. She just did it.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
    • FLT

      Right. Because that will make the whole system better.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • ____

      @Wow...
      I am sure your mother did her research and tried her hardest. It looks as if she did a great job! That being said, I am frightened for Sara's (potential) children by her comments and poor grammar. I am not perfect, which is why I would prefer a trained professional to do the educating.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  14. Steve

    Make sure the parents are charged with negligence for letting the kid get a hold of the gun too. If I had kids, my guns would be in a biometric safe.

    (Yes, I own handguns for self defense.)

    February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • TriXen

      My guns aren't for self defense.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • ron paul 2012

      wow at the gun bashing,just in the first few minutes of whatever this is.
      they pay people to slam our rights on forums.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • ColB

      Are your handguns in a "biometric" safe?

      February 27, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • realitybites

      Mmm Hmm. Good luck grabbin them pistolees on the quick draw from your lock up and uh shootin' them varmits afore they commence ta raidin the cabiin.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • JillAmerican

      They shoudl be locked up anyway. Kids break in, just like the Kentucky shooting a few years back.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Aaron

      Steve, you're an idiot. You don't even have kids. I graduated responsibly, 4.0GPA. At one point, my younger brother was someone who I would have suspected to do something like this. Thankfully, he's turned his life around since then. You think the parents always need to be at fault? Pretty naive. My parents did EVERYTHING possible including counseling (individual and family) and the COURTS kept letting him go... which could've easily led to something like this. Stop blaming the parents. The person carrying the firearm is responsible. No one else.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Teri

      Nowhere in the article does it say the gunman was a student.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
    • realitybites

      Aaron's right. You can only blame parents so far. Maybe after this, the Ohio State legislature should look further into and follow Arizona's lead and make it legal for gun owners to carry consealed weapons into Bars....

      February 27, 2012 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      @realitybites: If you don't like guns move to the UK. You know, where guns aren't allowed, but the crime rate is still incredibly high. If you are unwilling to move please do me the favor of putting a sign in the yard that states "I do not believe in the Second Amendment and do not own any guns." One last thing realitybites if you are so worried about everyone's safety to state that guns should be banned. I bet you are still driving a car? Cars kill more people than guns, so ban cars first!!

      February 27, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      @realitybites: Have you heard about the Nikki Goeser story? (http://www.infowars.com/murder-witness-turns-second-amendment-advocate/) She is a law abiding CCW licensed person that was being stalked. She went to a bar that banned CCW. The stalker entered the bar and shot her husband in front of her. This is the problem with gun laws, criminals do not follow the law! You should think more type less!

      February 27, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Jake

    why is the conversation all about guns in america.? Thousands of people are murdered in our prisons every year. a place were their are no guns. Should we as a people not look at the moral decay in our society that produces such action. Our kids are dying.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • GODZILLA1

      Who cares who dies in prison – if they didn't deserve it they wouldn't be there!

      February 27, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • deedee

      Thousands murdered in prison each year???? I don't think so!

      February 27, 2012 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      Sometimes, the wrong people go to jail. Sorry if you don't want to face up to that, but that's just the way it is.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Boo

      On that same subject, there are more people in prison in the United States THAN ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. One more person tells me that this is the greatest country in the world, I'm gonna punch them in the head. BECAUSE IT IS NOT. I

      February 27, 2012 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
    • angryersmell

      Should people look at how society is decaying and things like this (teens committing senseless, violent crimes) are occuring more and more often? Yes. Will they? Absolutely not.

      If these kids didn't have access to guns, they'd have used knives. If they somehow couldn't get knives, they'd have used baseball bats...and so on...and so on...and so on, because it's their minds that are broken, not the guns or our laws. 30,000 years ago they'd have used rocks. Soon enough, we'll be back to that, and as soon as we are, there will be people in rags parading around the post-apocalyptic campfires calling for a ban on granite.

      February 27, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • house

      crime boost employment, sad but true. crime is an economic incubator for legal and illegal business activity.

      February 27, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
    • MarkinFL

      Whatever your side in the argument, using the "they'll use a knife anyway" argument is the least persuasive. One boy is not going to be able to hurt so many people or so seriously with a knife and even less with a bat, etc. etc.

      Anyone with a brain would rather face someone that has a knife rather than a gun.

      February 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • ObamaFlop

      Boo.......I bet if I punched you in the nose it would make a horn sound........Clown. Yes this is the GREATEST Country in the world but there are to many people like you.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Well, your prisons comment makes no sense, but what is along the same lines is the fact that all school shootings are shootings occuring in 'gun free zones'. Show's how good gun bans work huh? What do you anti-gun freaks really want? A permanent ban of firearm sales and ownership for the entire country? There's 300+ million guns in circulation in the USA, so good luck, it's virtually impossible to EVER EVER retrieve even 10% of illegal weapons on the streets. A ban would only prevent lawful citizens who wouldn't kill anybody, from owning a gun to protect themselves from the violent freaks. The FBI has shown in 2010, nearly 10 million VIOLENT crimes, not regular crimes, but violent, occured in 2010 alone. FBI states that 1 in under 50 people will be a victim of a violent crime. So, for all of us LEGAL and LAW-ABIDING gun owners, will be stripped of our guns, while the murderer's intent and crimes stay the same. Instead of breaking into my home with a gun, they'll have a butcher knife, or instead of thugs having guns for hold ups, it'll be with switch blades or in groups, but the one thing that doesn't change is the innocent who happen to be that 1 in 50, will NOT be armed to defend himself.

      February 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • corpsman

      Hey everybody, look at ObamaFlop. Another right wing nut who says he loves America but hates all those Americans who don't think just like him. People like that are the problem.

      February 27, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Althalos

      I feel bad for anyone sent to jail mistakenly because in some cases they are forced to choose a side or end up big trouble with all parties.

      February 27, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
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