Marine says he faces discharge over Obama comments
Stein is facing discharge from the Marines due to comments he made about President Obama.
March 22nd, 2012
10:44 AM ET

Marine says he faces discharge over Obama comments

A politically active Marine who has questioned President Barack Obama's authority said Thursday he is facing administrative discharge proceedings over his comments.

Sgt. Gary Stein, who founded the Armed Forces Tea Party, said his commanding officer at Camp Pendleton near San Diego has accused him of violating a catch-all military justice provision against conduct endangering "good order and discipline."

He is also accused of violating a Department of Defense policy limiting the political activities of service members.

Stein came under scrutiny from Marine officials after posting that he would not obey Obama's orders.

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  1. AMERICA 1st

    The marines want to discharge an excellent marine for his right to free speech!? What a bunch of garbage! I agree with the marine in not wanting to obey nobamas orders, but not to the point of endangering his tour of duty. Bottomline is that nobama isnt worth the giving the time of day to!

    March 22, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • poppajohn818

      Amen & God Bless America

      March 22, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • CenTexan©

      BTW, if he stated he would not obey President Obama's orders, he is not an "excellent" marine. And just so you know, I did not vote for President Obama.

      March 22, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Retired E8

      Obey orders of commander and chief and superiors or get out, he enlisted he took our money and the oath to hell with him, put his behind in prison.,

      March 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick Ewing

      We haven’t been attacked on PREWSIDENT OBAMA”S watch like we were on little bush’s! You unpatriotic fellows should love this country or get out!

      March 22, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • common sense

      Sorry dude that marine forgot one of the military general orders, obey the orders of those appointed over you and the commander in chief is wayyy over him...

      March 22, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy© "I Post Under My Own Name"

      Shhhhhhh.
      Your hatred is showing again.

      March 22, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Marines (any military members) don't get to pick what orders they follow. As long as the orders don't break the UCMJ or the Geneva Convention you have to follow them.

      April 6, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  2. CenTexan©

    @ America 1st...the rules are different for military members. I'll go out on a limb here and guess that you have never been in the armed forces. The POTUS is the commander in chief of the military. What he says goes. If he disagrees, he needs to leave the military and then he can practice his free speech all he wants.

    March 22, 2012 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  3. Emperor Norton

    It's amazing how far some birthers will go to hold onto the faintest possibility that Obama isn't President.

    March 22, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  4. Portland tony

    No this is not a good Marine. The President of the United States is the commander in chief. You obey every lawful order given when you are in the military especially a Marine. In war time you can be shot for disobeying a lawful order. When you are ordered to dig a frigging hole by your CO, you dig it. You don't want to, find another job.

    March 22, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  5. NoDisrespect

    CenTexan is 100% correct.

    When you join a branch of the US Armed Forces, you are essentially giving up your personal basic rights. You are in a sense, US Gov't property for however long your contract details.

    These military men and women are held to a higher standard, a standard know as the USMJ.
    USMJ is the "rule-book" for military personnel actions, behaviors and standards.
    Standards stating you must follow orders, follow the chain-of-command, and follow them with strength; regardless of your political or personal beliefs about the higher rank official.

    March 22, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  6. NoDisrespect

    Belay my last; Correction: (U)niform (C)ode of (M)ilitary (J)ustice

    March 22, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  7. Indomitable

    @ AMERICA lst, have you ever obeyed anyones orders?

    March 22, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  8. David

    At ease that nonsnese marine. If you care any about the marine your country or anything to claim. Then you would not be trying to disobey order for mthe commander in chief, or invovle yourself with a group like the Tea Party the clearly has some extreme views. you Sir are a young man who wants attention and media spot light. real soldiers serve their country not for what the y can get but what they can give. I suggest if you get out or are allowed to stay in you do a self evaluation and leanr this parable I came to serve not to be served.

    March 22, 2012 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  9. Rick Ewing

    The armed forces would be a lot more fun if you got to pick under whom you would like to serve. Better yet they should get to vote for the most popular commanders; that would be far more democratic. If you think your superior is a jerk you should be able to tell him so. There was a fellow in my brother’s outfit that told the Sergeant he was quitting, but army wouldn’t let him! Can you image that?

    March 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Jesse James

    Put him in prison, he took the oath and and money. Give him ten years to think about it.

    March 22, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Coleman Younger

    President Obama is the commander and chief. The end.

    March 22, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  12. saywhat

    I don't think that active military service and being active politically should mix. It would be detrimental to the purpose of having a military, the philosophy on which its structure of command & control is based.

    March 22, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Chumlee

    Dishonorable discharge at the least. You DO NOT attach the Commander in Chief!

    March 22, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  14. BobNAlabama

    Apparently, this Marine has forgotten the meaning of "Commander-in-Chief".

    March 22, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Mary

    @ Retired E8,
    My Son is an E3, he had taken ROTC in highschool
    Navy ended up stationing him in Hawaii Yippieeeeeee 😉

    March 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
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