Judge orders Tulsa murder suspects held on more than $9 million bond each
Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, were arrested Sunday in connection with shootings in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
April 9th, 2012
10:39 AM ET

Judge orders Tulsa murder suspects held on more than $9 million bond each

A judge in Tulsa, Oklahoma has ordered two men suspected in a string of weekend shootings that left three people dead held in lieu of $9,160,000 bond each.

Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 33, are charged with three counts of murder and two counts of shooting with intent to kill in connection with last week's shootings, which also wounded two people. Authorities are working to determine whether the violence that left three people dead was racially motivated.

More on the case:

Will Tulsa shootings be considered a hate crime?

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  1. AreuNuts

    Why the weird $ amount?

    April 9, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Canada Keith

      Just add up the bail for each of the multiple charges.

      April 9, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • lulzren

      most likely because no one can afford it and some how if someone could..

      thats a hell lot of money the gov gets...

      if your a racist nut and go on a killing rampage at least kill the thugs..not just some random stranger walking

      April 9, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • smartypants

      bc they were able to come up with $9.15 mil.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  2. Mark

    Say hello to Satan!

    April 9, 2012 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  3. Grant

    To make sure you can't post bail for them

    April 9, 2012 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
  4. Jim Bob

    Man. I wonder how long it will take for them to actually finally be executed. Too long, is my guess.

    April 9, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  5. Why so much

    Why is the bail so high? This amount of money, even for someone suspected of murder, is not justified in our system of justice where one is innocent until proben guilty ....... unless, oh yeah, it involves an African American!

    April 9, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • rep

      Why don't you just spend a little time researching what goes into determining bail amounts in different states, charges, crimes, etc. instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions? You must just want to stir up trouble.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • SHAUNA

      If this were your family member, shot to death for no reason... would the bond be too high?

      April 9, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Sacmar

      Oh give me a break!!! Are you really trying to say they received a high bail because the victims were African-American?! Bullcrap. If the victims were White, it would have been the same. The bail and punishment should fit the crime no matter the race of the suspect or victim. If I were these guys, I would confess and try to save myself because if they prove this is a hate crime, they will more than likely face the death penalty.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • jcpro

      Did you really go there?

      April 9, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • leeintulsa

      @why so much: it's not just murder. it's 3 murders and 2 attempted murders. they were actively hiding from police.

      if they got out, not only might they kill again, but they pose a flight risk.

      i suppose he should have said held without bond.

      we don't know that they did it, but there is no evidence they didn't. if they flee the state, we may never know..

      April 9, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • kgray

      Apparently you are an idiot. England admitted on his facebook page that this was a revenge killing for his Dad. They shouldn't have a bail, they should be placed in the neighborhood where the murders occured an have the residence or the family member do the same to them.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • East of Eden

      If an African American committed the crime, you'd already be labeling as a pariah, a thug and other horrible things. You'd be calling for his head, not to mention a high bail. Do us all a favor and at least be consistent.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Johan S

      LOL .. the bail amount is normal for homicides they don't let any homicide suspects out like that you dummy. Only the ultra rich or people who turn themselves in get a pass cause their attorneys make a case about how they're not a flight risk.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  6. Dean

    Self-defense.

    April 9, 2012 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  7. CarryNOW

    Racially motivated? Can't you see one of the guys is Asian? I thought it was only possible to commit a "hate crime" (whatever that is) if it's white on black?

    April 9, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Sacmar

      Actually he's Native American.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • East of Eden

      or straight person on Gay.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  8. J Mann

    Sales of lottery tickets just skyrocketed among their friends and family.

    April 9, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  9. freelance7

    Why not just say no bail?

    April 9, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  10. CrazyRight

    They were just standing their ground. Isn't murder legal in America now?

    April 9, 2012 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  11. ntranced

    As much as I hate what they did that bail is a blatant violation of the 8th amendment.

    They should never have set any bail and considered them too dangerous to release or a flight risk.

    April 9, 2012 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Actually they are quite lucky. 9 times out of 10, If you kill someone here in Tulsa, the police will be sure you don't make it to trial. Don't mess with Tulsa, these guys got lucky. My condolences to all the families that have been affected.. These men will get what they deserve.

      Besides, look at it this way... If they post bail, maybe we could use that money on Tulsa's HORRIBLE roads. Potholes as far as the eye can see, unless your in one... then you can't see..

      April 9, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  12. SMH

    The young one looks like Zimmerman.. Off with their heads!!

    April 9, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  13. Akil

    In Tulsa they lynch everyone blacks and whites.

    April 9, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  14. Lewy

    One of the defendants – the dumb-looking one – was heard to ask of the Judge: "You take a check, Boss?"

    April 9, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • East of Eden

      They both look rather dumb.

      April 9, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  15. kayaker247

    if these murders are considered hate crimes then there is something wrong with those who would define it! string these animals up!

    April 9, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • kayaker247

      *aren't considerd...

      April 9, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • leeintulsa

      they are already on their way to old sparky, if they did it. adding 'hate crime', at best would have no effect, and at worse, would inspire other losers to commit hate crimes in retaliation, or taint the whole case. hate is harder to prove than murder..

      April 9, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
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