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Live blog: Zimmerman 'sorry' for loss of Martins' son; bond set at $150,000
After George Zimmerman took the stand during his bond hearing and told Trayvon Martin's parents that he was sorry for the loss of their son, a Florida judge Friday set Zimmerman's bond at $150,000.
The judge set a number of conditions, including GPS monitoring. The judge said Zimmerman wouldn't have the opportunity to be released Friday, because his attorney and state authorities needed to hammer out the monitoring and other logistics.
Friday's bond hearing also included testimony from one of the state's main investigators in the case, with Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara challenging the state's assertions. Under questioning, the investigator said the state didn't have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's account that Martin started the fight that led to the shooting, but he did say evidence did call into question other parts of Zimmerman's account.
Zimmerman, 28, was charged on April 11 with second-degree murder in the February death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, after the case sparked a heated, national debate over racial profiling and saw thousands of protesters demand Zimmerman's arrest. Martin's family contends Zimmerman racially profiled their son, who was black, and was walking back from a convenience store in Sanford, Florida.
Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who is Hispanic, maintains he acted in self-defense. His family says he did not profile Martin. (Timeline of case)
The following is a running account of the bond hearing:
[Updated at 12:14 p.m. ET] The state's attorney in today's bond hearing, reacting to reporters' questions about O'Mara's assault on the prosecution's case, said that not all evidence has been publicly revealed.
"We did not put our entire case on today. Let's leave it at that," he told reporters outside the courthouse.
[Updated at 11:55 a.m. ET] Mark NeJame, an Orlando lawyer and CNN legal analyst, said O'Mara's move to put Zimmerman on the stand during the bond hearing "was a calculated risk to humanize George Zimmerman."
"We've heard a lot of negative things for weeks now, and we've now heard a living breathing person" make an apology, NeJame said.
[Updated at 11:15 a.m. ET] The hearing is over. Zimmerman stood up and shook hands with his attorney, Mark O'Mara, before sitting down again to wait to be taken from the courtroom.
[Updated at 11:10 a.m. ET] The judge has set a bond of $150,000, with conditions.
The conditions include:
- GPS monitoring
- Zimmerman would have to contact authorities every three days
- No contact with the victim's family
- No possession of firearms
- No use of controlled substances, other than those prescribed by a physician.
As for O'Mara's request that Zimmerman be allowed to reside away from Florida, the judge said O'Mara and the state should get together and determine whether that can be accomplished.
Because O'Mara and the state need to meet about the arrangements for monitoring, Zimmerman will not have an opportunity to be freed today. the judge said.
[Updated at 11:07 a.m. ET] The state's attorney is now making a case against leniency when it comes to the bond decision, and has asked for no bond, or a bond of $1 million.
The state's attorney argued that Zimmerman is a danger to the public, citing not only the second-degree murder charge, but a previous charge of battery against a law enforcement officer, which was discussed at length earlier in the hearing.
[Updated at 11:02 a.m. ET] The hearing is now turning back to the issue of bond. O'Mara is asking the judge for:
- $15,000 bond.
- The ability of Zimmerman to leave the state
- Secrecy over Zimmerman's whereabouts
O'Mara, speaking to Zimmerman's ability to pay bond, noted that Zimmerman cannot work in public because of the case's publicity, and that his wife is not working because she is in school.
[Updated at 10:58 a.m. ET] The prosecuting attorney is now questioning Zimmerman. He asked whether Zimmerman had ever said he was sorry when he spoke to police. Zimmerman responded that he had told one of the investigators that "I felt sorry for the family."
The prosecutor told Zimmerman that if that's true, it must have been recorded. He asked Zimmerman if he was sure, and Zimmerman said he was "fairly certain."
[Updated at 10:55 a.m. ET] "I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son," Zimmerman said on the stand, apparently addressing Martin's parents, who are in the room. (Watch video of apology)
Zimmerman also said he thought Martin was older, and that he "didn't know if (Martin) was armed or not."
[Updated at 10:54 a.m. ET] Zimmerman is about the address the court. His attorney has called him to the stand.
[Updated at 10:53 a.m. ET] The prosecuting attorney, after saying "I didn't know we were going to be trying the case today," is back to ask questions of state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, after O'Mara asked questions challenging the state's assertions.
The prosecutor asked Gilbreath whether there was any evidence indicating that Zimmerman's account that Martin bashed his head against a sidewalk wasn't true. Gilbreath said yes.
[Updated at 10:47 a.m. ET] O'Mara is back to questioning state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, one of the investigators in the case.
O'Mara asked whether Gilbreath knows who started the fight between Zimmerman and Martin, or had any evidence as to who started the fight. Gilbreath said no.
O'Mara asked whether Gilbreath had any evidence contradicting Zimmerman's statement to Sanford police on the night of the incident that Zimmerman: 1) turned toward his car after losing sight of Martin; and 2) that Martin started the fight that led to the shooting. Gilbreath said no.
[Updated at 10:36 a.m. ET] A prosecuting attorney is now questioning state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, after Zimmerman's attorney took issue with wording in a probable cause affidavit that Gilbreath had signed. Gilbreath is one of the investigators in the Martin shooting case.
Like O'Mara, the prosecuting attorney is asking Gilbreath about the affidavit, and about evidence that Gilbreath collected. The general thrust of the questioning is designed to bolster the affidavit's credibility, after O'Mara questioned word choices in the affidavit.
Gilbreath testified he has reviewed other evidence documents other than what has been discussed in the hearing. The prosecutor asked Gilbreath whether Martin had a right to be in the neighborhood - Gilbreath said yes. Gilbreath also was asked if there was no evidence that Martin was committing any crime, and again Gilbreath said yes.
[Updated at 10:28 a.m. ET] O'Mara still is questioning state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath about the way that the probable cause affidavit - which supported the second-degree murder charge - was written.
O'Mara is now taking issue with a line that says Zimmerman "disregarded" a police dispatcher. On the tape that has been released to the public, Zimmerman indicated that he was following Martin, and the dispatcher said that authorities didn't need Zimmerman to do that.
O'Mara, through his questioning of Gilbreath, is basically suggesting that "disregarded" was the wrong word, because Zimmerman did not hang up with the dispatcher, and therefore did not disregard him.
O'Mara also is taking issue with the affidavit saying that Zimmerman "confronted" Martin. O'Mara is contending that Gilbreath has offered no evidence that Zimmerman confronted Martin, and that other, less antagonistic words, should have been used since Gilbreath had no evidence that Zimmerman confronted him. Such words, O'Mara said, would be "came up to," or "spoke with."
[Updated at 10:19 a.m. ET] O'Mara, while questioning state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, is now taking issue with other language choices in the probable cause affidavit.
O'Mara has noted that the only two quotes in the affidavit from Zimmerman - taken from a police call that Zimmerman made to notify police that he had seen a suspicious person - are of Zimmerman using expletives. O'Mara asked why - out of everything Zimmerman said - only those two quotes were included in the affidavit.
Gilbreath responded that he didn't type the affidavit. O'Mara pointed out that Gilbreath swore to it, and Gilbreath agreed that he had.
[Updated at 10:14 a.m. ET] O'Mara, while questioning state attorney's investigator Dale Gilbreath, has taken issue with the word "profiled" in the probable cause affidavit supporting the second-degree murder charge.
The affidavit, which Gilbreath had signed, says that Zimmerman profiled Martin. O'Mara asked why the affidavit says profiled, rather than "noticed" or "saw." Gilbreath said he couldn't remember who wrote the word, saying it was a collaborative document.
[Updated at 10:09 a.m. ET] O'Mara has called Dale Gilbreath, an investigator with the state attorney's office, to the stand. Gilbreath is one of the investigators in the Martin shooting case.
Gilbreath has indicated that he didn't expect to testify today.
[Updated at 10:05 a.m. ET] O'Mara asked Zimmerman's mother whether she has come to know her son as someone who comes to the defense of people. She said yes.
She said he has stood up for children and homeless people in and around his community. She also testified that he had been a mentor for two African American children.
[Updated at 10:04 a.m. ET] O'Mara asked Zimmerman's mother about Zimmerman's previous charge of battery against a law enforcement officer. She said that Zimmerman was involved in an altercation with a plainclothes ATF agent because he was coming to the defense of a friend, who was being roughed up. The officer didn't identify himself as a law enforcement officer, she said.
[Updated at 10:02 a.m. ET] Zimmerman's mother, like his father and wife earlier this morning, said that if Zimmerman is released on bond, his location and the places where he would be allowed to go should be kept secret, because he and the family have received threats.
[Updated at 9:53 a.m. ET] O'Mara has now called Zimmerman's mother to the phone.
[Updated at 9:51 a.m. ET] Now being questioned by O'Mara, Zimmerman's father testified about Zimmerman's appearance after the February 26 shooting. The father said Zimmerman's face was swollen "quite a bit," had a protective cover over his nose, and had two vertical gashes on the back of his head.
According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman told authorities that after he called 911 about a suspicious person (later identified as Martin), and after he briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman said, he reached for his cell phone, and then Martin punched him in the nose. Zimmerman said Martin pinned him to the ground and began slamming his head into the sidewalk.
[Updated at 9:47 a.m. ET] The prosecution is asking Zimmerman's father about Zimmerman's previous charge of battery against a law enforcement officer, basically having the father acknowledge that he knows Zimmerman faced that charge. Like the exchange that the prosecution had with Zimmerman's wife a few minutes ago, they went over the fact that Zimmerman took anger management classes as a result of that charge, which was reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor.
[Updated at 9:41 a.m. ET] O'Mara is asking Zimmerman's father about his financial ability to help post bond. The father, who said he was retired, said he and his wife have some savings, but very little. He said he had a mortgaged home, and that he was willing to secure the home as part of a bond arrangement.
[Updated at 9:39 a.m. ET] O'Mara is now questioning Zimmerman's father, Robert Zimmerman Sr., who, like Zimmerman's wife, is testifying by phone. A notary public has sworn Robert Zimmerman in.
[Updated at 9:36 a.m. ET] O'Mara questioned Zimmerman's wife about the previous allegations against Zimmerman - including a charge of battery on a law enforcement officer and an altercation with a woman - that the prosecuting attorney brought up. Through questioning, Zimmerman's wife testified that the battery charge was reduced to a misdemeanor through a pretrial diversion program in which he took anger management classes, and that she believes he completed those classes. She also testified that in the altercation with the woman, Zimmerman was not arrested, and that the woman attacked Zimmerman and drew blood, and that as a result, Zimmerman got an injunction against that woman.
[Updated at 9:30 a.m. ET] The prosecuting attorney summed up the previous allegations - including the charge of battery on a law enforcement officer - and then asked Zimmerman's wife whether she still believes Zimmerman isn't a danger to the community. "Absolutely he is not a violent person,” nor is he a threat to the community, she responded.
[Updated at 9:24 a.m. ET] The prosecution is now questioning Zimmerman's wife about her assertion that Zimmerman poses no danger to the community. The prosecuting attorney is pointing out that Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder, and that Zimmerman is accused of a violent act.
The prosecuting attorney also is asking Zimmerman's wife about his previous brushes with the law, including a charge of battery of a law enforcement officer. He also brought up a woman's previous allegations that the woman and Zimmerman were in an altercation - Zimmerman's wife answered that she is aware that Zimmerman needed to defend himself from an attack by the woman, that the woman drew blood, and that Zimmerman filed for a protective order because of the incident. The prosecutor is asking her whether she is aware of those charges and allegations in the past, and she said she is.
[Updated at 9:20 a.m. ET] Zimmerman's wife said she fears for Zimmeran's safety and the safety of their family, and that is part of the reason why she is testifying by phone.
Asked if she believes Zimmerman is a danger to society, she said no. She said she has "no concerns whatsoever" about him.
[Updated at 9:18 a.m. ET] O'Mara is asking Zimmerman's wife about the family's financial ability to post bond. O'Mara is saying that Zimmerman is indigent; Zimmerman's wife said that she has talked to other family members about scraping up everything they could in anticipation of posting bond.
[Updated at 9:15 a.m. ET] With Zimmerman's wife on speakerphone, O'Mara has begun asking her questions. Asked if she would do everything in her power to ensure that Zimmerman - should he be granted bail - return to court when he is required to do so, she said yes. And she said she would contact the court if she lost contact with him.
[Updated at 9:11 a.m. ET] The court has called Zimmerman's wife on the phone. A notary public is with Mrs. Zimmerman and is swearing her in.
[Updated at 9:08 a.m. ET] Lester has begun the proceeding. After the attorneys identified themselves to the judge, O'Mara kicked off the bond request and told the judge that witnesses are available by phone. The court is calling those witnesses now. As we noted earlier, Zimmerman's family has offered to give testimony by phone.
[Updated at 9:04 a.m. ET] Zimmerman, wearing a dark gray suit, white shirt and light gray tie, has entered the courtroom and has seated himself next to O'Mara.
[Updated at 9:00 a.m. ET] Martin's parents are, indeed, in the courtroom, and they've taken their seats. O'Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, also is standing the courtroom, waiting for the proceeding to begin.
[Updated at 8:59 a.m. ET] Check out this piece on why evidence in the case may come up in the bond hearing. The prosecutor, Corey, has the burden of showing why bond should not be set or that it should be high. The burden is referred to as "proof of guilt is evident or presumption of guilt is great." Corey would have to convince Lester that a jury would convict Zimmerman.
[Updated at 8:55 a.m. ET] The bond hearing is expected to begin in minutes. Martin's parents are expected to be at the hearing, and this would be the first time that they and Zimmerman are in the same room, CNN's Martin Savidge tells us from the site.
O'Mara filed a motion that asks the court to allow Zimmerman's family members to provide testimony at the bond hearing by telephone. The state attorney's office did not object.
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Even according to his own story, he reached for his "cellphone" and got punched? The man stalked this kid, they get in a confrontation, and then he starts reaching for things?
Even if it all happened exactly as he says, I think getting punched was a reasonable response. Shooting the kid who punched him was not.
ANd you want everyone to feorget having his head slammed into the concrete repeatedly
In 2005 Zimmerman punches a cop trying to restrain one of his friends – does he get shot in self defence by cop ? I see it as the same situation just different outcome.
exactly!! How does Martin know what he is reaching for.. for all he knows, he could have been reaching for a gun, which ironically he did have on him. folks get shot by police for "reaching" for stuff..
Well, that's ridiculous. Even by your interpretation of the events, Martin had no reason to feel threatened and if he did anyway punching the guy you think has a gun is not a natural reaction.
he should run away,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
so Trayvon thought... and perhaps correctly... that George was reaching for a gun.
"Having his head slammed into to concrete repeatedly" seems to have been disputed by the investigator. He testifiied that the injuries were not consistant with that allegation.. and also noted that George claimed that Trayvon had one hand on his mouth, and the other on his nose, so he couldn't breath.... while trying to take Georges gun! I guess the thought the boy had 3 hands.
It thought the father's assessment of his son's injuries was VERY interesting considering we saw the video of him going into the police station within an hour of the attack. He didn't look as beaten up as the father described. I understand it takes a couple of days for bruises to show but his father'a assessment made it seem he was beaten by Mike Tyson and those injuries you would have been visible right after attack.
The bigger story is Michele Bachmann stating "Obama is waving a tar baby."
Zimmerman is guilty of murder. GUILTY.
The Bottom-Line is . . . he was told NOT to get out and approach Trayvon!
Had this "Wanna-be" listened to what he was instructed to do and what he was legally permitted to do, he would NOT have been 'afraid for his life'.
By NOT doing as instructed by Police, he made Trayvon 'Afraid for his life'. GO TO JAIL, GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL.
Total fabrication He was NOT told as you say. Read the true accounts
He was only told after he was following, and he complied within one second. Regardless, following on foot was part of the licensed protocol for the watch in that neighborhood per their police training. So it could be argued that following on foot was to follow a direct police order, while complying with stop following was more a courtesy.
I remember when Nancy Grace, Sharpton and Jesse convicted, through the media, before any trials took place, 3 Duke lacrosse players. They crucified these young men and their families through media outlets. Now, we all know how that turned out don't we? Before judgement is passed, let the legal process work people. BTW, I am still waiting for everybody who stood on the steps of the courthouse in Durham and yelled "rapist" at the lacrosse players to apologize to those young men and their families. I will be waiting for a long time. Nancy, Al and Jesse are hate mongers, without hate, they dont exist.
I wonder if the black community realizes when Al/Jesse didn't issue an apology or when they don't speak out against the actions of the black community (such as the case in Texas) but FULLY expect whites to be outraged when it's reversed, that it paints a very negative picture and doesn't positively impact race relations in this country.
Trayvon tried to settle things like a MAN, with his fists.
Zimmerman opted to go the pu$$ies way out, with a gun.
Fred Evil
Trayvon tried to settle things like a MAN, with his fists.
Zimmerman opted to go the pu$$ies way out, with a gun.
trayvon was a worthless piece of garbage and the world is a better place because he's no longer alive. that's the truth. this country would be a much better place if we just got rid of the trayvons of the world. they're the ones draining our resources.
FREE ZIMMERMAN!
This is just your opinion which I think is completely wrong. Zimmerman, approached Trayvon, pulled his gun & shot him. There was no fight. This was premeditated murder, the 911 call was just an alibi for murder to try to cover all his bases
Grown man with gun chases boy, against the advice of the police. Boy fights back, man shoots boy. Who's at fault.....DOH!. Man with gun started confrontation. Fairly certain boy didn't attack grown man first.
Runswithbeer- That's weird, I didn't know you were there and are a valid witness...
@anyone reading this: Do you pass the ignorance test? Answer these questions and find out!
1) Do you think George Zimmerman is guilty because he killed a black person?
2) Do you think every thing one side says is a lie, while everything the other side says is the truth?
3) Do you think there is reasonable evidence to say George committed a crime out of racism?
4) Do you think anyone who doesn't "agree" with you is a racist, is stupid, or is not moral?
If you answered yes to any of these questions, you are ignorant. If you answered yes to all of these questions you are ignorant and narrow-minded. If you answered yes to #1 you are a (reverse) racist.
HEY RUNSWITHBEER, why don't you run with some scissors, fall, and impale yourself that way this world will be a better place. moron.
Chris from Chicago: LOL, just from the way you formed the questions... it shows you have said yes to at least two of your own "ignorant test" Now... what do you call someone who makes up a test to see if others are ignorant finds they are the most ignorant?
The final sad truth of this is that the one factor that would settle the whole matter, whether Zimmermans fear of poor Skilltes-and-iced-tea Trayvon was reasonable, will never be addressed, because anyone who admitted in court that they fear blacks, would be instantly branded racist. Look what happened when JESSE JACKSON admitted exactly that!!!
Letting the Law decide. It is the right thing. However, the outcome will more than likely cause more ruckus. More so if he is 'off the hook'. We all can't change the past true, and in human nature we defend ourselves when the finger is pointed at us. I personally can not choose to support either side. Too much conflict. I mourn the loss of fellow man as well as I pity the poor actions of man. Let us hope some 'truth' comes out so we can have not just piece of mind or justice, but for the unspoken apologies and unnecessary hate come to a end.....race, color, profiles, stereotypes..... We are in deep Country, let us hope we can turn it around.
Signed,
Ageless
What does he have to wait to be beaten unconscious before he shoots his attacker? Oh wait, then he would still be racist because he unconsciously shot a black . lol
Hang in there George, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and the truth will set you free. You are a good man being torn apart by an angry mob of ignorant racists. God bless you George, you are a hero.
Amen Dennis!
Dennis, you can put the cap on the glue tube now
You do realize he shot and murdered an unarmed teenager, right? But yeah, clearly this whole thing is about people not understanding facts. I guess in Dennis' world, it's ok to shoot innocent black teenagers.
Um, excuse me, but why are you calling him a hero?
Is it because he killed a black kid?
I don't consider this a hero situation and I think its extremly direspectful that people actually believe it is.
Dennis, are you his attorney? Are you a police officer who has evidence of your claims? I agree that Zimmerman appears innocent but I refuse to jump on either bandwagon until all of the evidence is presented in Court. I hope they appoint a fair jury. I would not be surprised if the jury gets the OJ treatment though. If so, Zimmerman may as well kill himself
Really, you should be ashamed of yourself. And before you start going off about me a liberal racist. Save it! I'm not liberal and no, I don't think Zimmerman meant to kill Trayvon. You should have more respect for the dead, sir. You don't want people to rush to judgment about ZImmerman then you should not rush to judgement about Trayvon.
I guess the list of your heroes should be the folowing order (from lesser to bigger)
1. George Zimmerman
2. Delphine LaLaurie
3. Ilse Koch
4. Shirō Ishii
5. Ivan IV of Russia
6. Oliver Cromwell
7. Jiang Qing
8. Pol Pot
9. Heinrich Himmler
10. Adolf Hitler
~Bonus: Josef Stalin
Ps. they all have one thing in common...yep you guessed it...killing innocent people.
How can you call him a hero? Even if he did act in self defense, the bottom line is he shot a kid who was doing nothing wrong and minding his own business.
he should hae followed the instructions the police dispatcher gave to him.
he choose to be dirty harry instead and now what ever the outcome ~ trial or not ~ guilty or not
zimmerman is a man with a big bull'seyetarget on him
Amen, Dennis. Trayvon Martin was trespassing through neighborhood yards. He was where he should NOT have been.
Killing an innocent kid black or white still leaves you in darkness. How sad you fail to see that fact. Profiling and stalking a kid with iced tea and skittles, means you will make a great prejudice cop, lawyer and judge someday. Now, see the law and judicial system that you uphold so bold is now against you eating at your soul. hope the untruths you told unfolds. ENJOY
To Dennis GZ is a hero because he confronted an unarmed teenager who was going home with candy, and when the kid defended himself he shot and killed him. Would you feel the same if someone did that to your kid? I think some of you are mad because your women don't want you anymore they want black men and poor Trayvon is one more down. His father's fiancee was probably white.
Too bad Zimmerman isn't of Danish ancestry; we could then say it was due to his ethnic culture and that it was ok. But, that was not the case. It appears that the EVIDENCE corroborates HIS side of the story that he was indeed attacked. I suspect the hollering and such heard over the phone was the hollering of Martin trying to kill Zimmerman. But..... that would be conjecture since ... really..... unfortunately.... I wasn't there to do the deed!
No, the evidence of injury says that Trayvon was standing HIS ground against a prejudice, over zealous, self-appointed, wanna-be with a gun.
Thor – I hope someone does "the deed" to you. One less ignorant racist, one step towards a more sane and civil populace.
There is no trial by your peers when the slugs who control the world news tries the case.They already lost one big profile case(Casey) in the last year.There is no trial by jury,it is a trial by tv wannabe lawyers.
Zimmerman should probably forgo bail and stay in jail for safety. There are nuts out there. There are also reckless people.
just like zimm the cowboy pretend cop
yes the place is full of nuts just like him
They will not be happy until he is hanging from a tree.
Not necessarily, doesn't have to be a tree
They, I assume those who think Zim is guilty should be happy with an honest open presentation of the known facts! And that's that. If the facts of the case are known and the laws are clear, then the Jury should not have a hard time coming up with a decision....people remember the OJ case...but look the OJ case was tainted by a cop who may have been a good cop but has a huge mouth....and his past caught up with him. I mean how woould it have looked if a black Juror sentenced OJ to death based on evidence gathered by some cop who was extremely biased in the past against blacks? In the end justice was not served in that case, but much of it had to do with bungling and really less than perfect execution of the laws.....you all have to understand, the nation is only as good as you make it...that's that...you bungle an investigation, or you go up to group Jewish Jurors for example and present a lead cop whose father was a Nazi propagandist that's not going to get you an unbiased verdict no matter how you cut it. Well that's what these people did with OJ in some ways...they did not present the case properly and with good sense and messed it up. If they do the same here...they will mess this case up too.