Overheard on CNN.com: Trayvon Martin case 'no-win situation' for all parties?
George Zimmerman testified, along with his wife and parents, at a bail hearing Friday in Sanford, Florida.
April 20th, 2012
08:36 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Trayvon Martin case 'no-win situation' for all parties?

Editor's note: This post is part of the Overheard on CNN.com series, a regular feature that examines interesting comments and thought-provoking conversations posted by the community.

Some new details emerged from the hearing during which a Florida judge set a $150,000 bond for George Zimmerman. Readers have been assessing the information, and they're telling us they aren't quite sure what to make of the Trayvon Martin case. Since some of the most critical information in the case has not been released publicly, it's difficult to make a judgment. Many of our commenters felt that both Zimmerman and Martin's stories are sad.

More details about Zimmerman emerge during bond hearing

This was the most-liked comment:

W0ofie:
"1. Overzealous. 2. Rash. 3. Naive. 4. Foolish.

Four words that describe Zimmerman. This case doesn't meet the standard for murder, it probably meets the standard for manslaughter. I do not believe Zimmerman intended on shooting anyone, I do beleive that his actions were sufficient for Trayvon Martin to feel threatened. Very sad, Zimmerman thought Trayvon was a criminal, Martin thought Zimmerman intended him harm. One is dead and one has ruined his life. Should have just let the cops handle it. Thanks to the NRA pushing laws that Law Enforcement Officers have repeatedly opposed because of this exact reason we now have one life ended and one life ruined. I can empathize with both, I am sure that will (anger) a few of you."

The replies were along similar lines, with this reader saying no one wins from the situation.

userjoe9066: "Very well worded, pretty much matches up with what I feel right now, it's just a no win situation even if they public gets what they want and Zimmerman gets hung or whatever happens to him it won't bring back Trayvon, there really is no winner in this situation. Hope it works out somehow though. I empathize with both sides."

This person said they fear "Stand Your Ground" laws, but don't know what to make of the case.

KellyinMN: "I can't say whether second degree murder or manslaughter is more appropriate, since I don't have access to all the evidence, just as you don't. With that said, I agree that I can sympathize with both (I can't empathize since I've never been shot or shot someone). It's a very sad situation which likely could have been prevented had the NRA not been allowed to push their dangerous laws. They tried passing a "Stand Your Ground" law similar to Florida's in Minnesota, but our law makers took law enforcements concerns and chose to only allow for the SYG type force in your home, car, RV, and tent (camping). I applaud their restraint and am proud they didn't bow to the NRA like so many other states have."

What information makes the difference in this case?

wodley: "We cannot pass judgment now whether it's manslaughter or not before knowing all the facts. The important thing is to prove forensically whether Zimmerman shot Martin while his head was being slammed on the concrete or whether he shot him from a distance. If it's the first, then it's self-defense. If it's the second, then it's second-degree murder."

This reader said they feel a second-degree murder charge is too much.

caliconor: "I agree with the original poster. I think Zimmerman was foolish, but he wasn't out to kill anyone. He was out doing a service for the community and was attacked. It sucks that someone died, but this was one of these circumstances where everything went wrong and it did. He's guilty of manslaughter, not murder. Wrongful dead lawsuit? More than likely. But 2nd degree murder? That's pretty ridiculous."

This is only a portion of the conversation that took place. What do you think? Share your opinion in the comments area below and in the latest stories on CNN.com. Or sound off on video via CNN iReport.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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soundoff (146 Responses)
  1. Delta

    To caliconor, you said Zimmerman was out doing his rounds and was attacked. How could you say this with such certainty. These are Zimmerman's claims and not fact and I don't believe a word of it, because he continues to tell conflicting stories. At the bond hearing, during his apology, he told Trayvon's parents that he thought Trayvon was just a little younder than he (Zimmerman). However, if you recall, on the 911 call just before Zimmerman killed Trayvon, the dispatcher asked Zimmerman how old was Trayvon and Zimmerman responded that he looked like a teenager. This guy continues to lie to dig himself out of the hole he has dug for himself. I don't trust or feel sorry for him at all. I only hope that justice will be seved.

    April 22, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • franklovesfl

      Tha'ts your 'smoking gun'????? That's all you've got? You think you can hand a murder charge on someone for THAT?!?!?!?!?!?

      April 23, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zimmerman should get the chair

      Its funny folks forget Zimmerman has a record – however sealed it may be. His father is a judge and made sure his 'thug life' didn't get out. I am sorry but trash is trash and this man is pretty much it. A shame black folks (as much as we've done to include build this country) will never be respected even when its black and white. Truly hateful and sad. Zimmerman would be the PERFECT republican...

      April 23, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim B.

      The public has no evidence that Zimmerman told conflicting stories to the authorities, and he talked to three different law enforcement agencies. We have seen none of what he told them, and he has said nothing publicly about what happened.

      All we have is second-hand information, and the media sometimes gets even that wrong.

      April 29, 2012 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Tim B.

      Zimmerman's age estimate of Martin as a teen when he talked to the police dispatcher was from a distance, in the dark, in the rain. It is understandable that when 6'3" Martin was on top of him, up close, attacking him that he appeared older than his initial estimate.

      Estimating age of a person is difficult. There are 17 year olds who look 12 and others who look 25.

      April 29, 2012 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
  2. g

    it was a racial issue once trayvon stpped into that neighborhood. Be for real or are you.

    April 23, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  3. Eloe

    Any murder is a no-win situation.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Phil Spectre

    You don't have a case when the young Tayvon was high on PCP and charging at Zimmerman's vehicle, which set off the whole situation.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zimmerman should get the chair

      you sound like rush limbaugh...haven't heard that part of the story...Sad person you are.

      April 23, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • kamanakapu

      'high on pcp'??? Where'd you get that one??? People keep popping up with all kinds of bull on these pages!!!

      April 24, 2012 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
    • RIP2HIM

      High on PCP?? Really?? I guess you were the one they made conduct the drug test that came back NEGATIVE for drugs before contacting the teenager's parents. Its sad that while the teenager had no criminal record, no weapons, no signs to show it was a struggle, he is still considered the suspect. Its even sadder that people create lies about a deceased teenager just to justify to themselves that becuase he is black he doesnt deserve justice. this is why you have civil rights leaders involved because Trayvon deserves justice just like the next person and his civil rights were denied when the police chief and his neighborhood friends decided that this case was not worth their time.

      April 25, 2012 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
  5. Phil Spectre

    You have no case when young Trayvon was on PCP and charging at Zimmerman's vehicle, which set off the whole situation.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mad

      You really are the same as Zimmerman,Phil!!! The people of Florida need their "Heads Examined", To give "Cowards a permit to carry Powerful handguns, and kill young unarmed teenagers,because he,s a "Coward" to fight!!! NRA,and Governors like Bush are to blame!!!!! We all watched this "Murdering Coward walk out of jail this morning!!! Your an Idiot!!!!

      April 23, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  6. sjc

    George Zimmerman is NOT the most hated man in America as was just stated on CNN. He is not anything like Casey Anthony – please don't make that analogy again.

    The bottom line is two people, who shouldn't have been where they were, doing what they were doing, crossed paths and the result was tragic. One person is dead and the other will likely spend time in prison.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zimmerman should get the chair

      Sin is sin...they are equal. I guess when this happens to a little white girl folks will take a deeper, more human look.

      April 23, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • RIP2HIM

      Are you slow??? Shouldnt have been where they were??? Trayvon's father lived there are children not allowed to visit their parents?? Zimmerman lived there is he not allowed to come outside? The fact is that Zimmerman wanted to be batman and forget he wasnt. IF Zimmerman would have minded his own business like Trayvon was doing then Trayvon would be here. I didnt know that you can start a fight, because your losing, pull your gun shoot and kill and claim self defense without proving the story.....

      April 25, 2012 at 8:23 am | Report abuse |
  7. angryed

    If justice is done...isnt that a win ??

    April 23, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Zimmerman should get the chair

    Its murder because a CHILD is dead regardless of what the law says. This man is more than a fool but a man on the edge with a chip on his shoulder. Guess i need to protect myself against neighbors that feel I am a threat, or my son who is black. This country aint changed one bit!

    April 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  9. tom deluca

    Why do all CNN newscasters refer to Zimmerman as the person who shot Trayvon Martin instead of the person who "killed" him. I think you should keep the facts as they are.

    April 23, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • doc

      TOM DELUCA
      cause they dont like guns

      April 24, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  10. tom deluca

    Why do all your newscasters refer to Zimmerman as the person who shot Trayvon rather then the person who "killed" him. You typically report the facts...why not in this instance?

    April 23, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Bobby Dias

    Win-win-win-win-win for the CNN and HLN staff- they always make money making people hate people.

    April 23, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Majesty Rene'

    I'll have to agree with Trayvon's mother, and just leave it in God's hands. May God be with and bless that family.

    April 23, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Mike

    Zimmerman took a gun with him. He then profiled someone, didn't listen to police, didn't leave the gun in his car and shot and killed a 17 year old boy minding his own business who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman's actions took a life. He is Guilty of murder. If it was your loved one would it me murder to you.

    April 23, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
  14. kamanakapu

    Zimmerman’s ‘apology’ was the shallowist apology I ever heard. On a scale from 1 to 10 it came in a zero in my estimation.

    April 24, 2012 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
  15. doc

    ONIEL
    too much to think about. just shoot.cause if you spend the time analizing your a dead man.
    security guards should be wearing body armor

    April 24, 2012 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
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